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  • Re: do we have KDE expertise among us?

    From Anssi Saari@21:1/5 to DdB on Fri Aug 23 18:00:01 2024
    DdB <debianlist@potentially-spam.de-bruyn.de> writes:

    Beloved debian users,

    After years of using GNOME (even back in my Ubuntu-days), i got fed up
    with the ever changing behavior, which came on top of "development
    politics". And since i was/am still on buster, i decided to move forward
    to bookworm-KDE.

    I only dabble in KDE, my main desktop is still Awesome WM. I don't know
    how to help with any of your KDE questions.

    And i got my VPN client working in KDE, only the iptable rules to
    protect me from acidental leaks (kill switch) need to be reinstalled
    after every boot. How to make them permanent the right way?

    Hm, I don't know if there's a permanent right way for iptables in Debian
    but I tend to think any way that does the job is right.

    I used to have a script in /etc/init.d for iptables firewall but since
    it became just a wrapper for nftables I switched to that and the Debian
    package nftables comes with a systemd service ready to go.

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  • From Joe@21:1/5 to Anssi Saari on Fri Aug 23 22:40:01 2024
    On Fri, 23 Aug 2024 18:57:22 +0300
    Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@debian-user.mail.kapsi.fi> wrote:

    DdB <debianlist@potentially-spam.de-bruyn.de> writes:

    Beloved debian users,

    After years of using GNOME (even back in my Ubuntu-days), i got
    fed up with the ever changing behavior, which came on top of
    "development politics". And since i was/am still on buster, i
    decided to move forward to bookworm-KDE.

    I only dabble in KDE, my main desktop is still Awesome WM. I don't
    know how to help with any of your KDE questions.

    And i got my VPN client working in KDE, only the iptable rules to
    protect me from acidental leaks (kill switch) need to be reinstalled
    after every boot. How to make them permanent the right way?

    Hm, I don't know if there's a permanent right way for iptables in
    Debian but I tend to think any way that does the job is right.

    There has been iptables-persistent for many years, and now that is a
    plugin for nftables-persistent.

    I used to have a script in /etc/init.d for iptables firewall but since
    it became just a wrapper for nftables I switched to that and the
    Debian package nftables comes with a systemd service ready to go.


    --
    Joe

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  • From George at Clug@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 24 01:40:01 2024
    On 22/08/24 at 19:20, DdB wrote:
    Beloved debian users,

    After years of using GNOME (even back in my Ubuntu-days), i got fed up with the ever changing behavior, which came on top of "development politics". And since i was/am still on buster, i decided to move forward
    to bookworm-KDE. But i am old and slow. It really took me a month to get
    a sort of minimal version up and running. I call this step: proof-of-concept. Now comes the harder part: to really take control of
    this desktop, not like a developer, but as a user. (I am currently evaluating to make use of ansible and redo the whole setup, but in a reproducible way.)
    And i got my VPN client working in KDE, only the iptable rules to
    protect me from acidental leaks (kill switch) need to be reinstalled
    after every boot. How to make them permanent the right way?


    DdB,

    I have little technical knowledge of Linux, compared to the things you indicated that you do.

    I use KDE but I do not modify it beyond using the UI's own methods for menus, etc. I also use XFCE where to make changes to the menus I install and use menulibre.

    In general, I use the base installed packages from the Debian repositories, and I do not alter the environment or its file systems. I guess a bit boring for many people in this email list, however it provides me with a stable and working environment.
    Hence I cannot offer suggests for many of the things you mentioned. However I do use iptables and now nftables (thanks to help provided from people in this Debian User list).

    Maybe the answer to your question "How to make them permanent the right way?" would be by installing and using "iptables-persistent". I first set up my working rules, then once they are correct, I install iptables-persistent and save my rules. The below
    Debian web site offers another way besides using iptables-persistent, but I have not used this method.

    # apt install iptables-persistent

    https://wiki.debian.org/iptables
    Another way is to use the package iptables-persistent. Rules can be stored something like this:

    iptables-save > /etc/iptables/rules.v4
    ip6tables-save > /etc/iptables/rules.v6

    https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/how-to-save-iptables-firewall-rules-permanently-on-linux/

    George.

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