I need to know how to totally disable t-birds hot keys. I mean I don't
want it to happen unless I have actually clicked on a command with the
mouse. If I didn't click on it, it doesn't happen, it can't happen.

Is there such a hotkey lock out in tbird?

Thank you all;

Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
- Louis D. Brandeis

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On 8/25/24 08:29, Darac Marjal wrote:

On 24/08/2024 23:50, gene heskett wrote:

I need to know how to totally disable t-birds hot keys. I mean I don't
want it to happen unless I have actually clicked on a command with the
mouse. If I didn't click on it, it doesn't happen, it can't happen.

I have a feeling that, strictly speaking, this will be impossible. For example, when editing a message, such as I am now, Ctrl+A selects all
the text, Home moves to the start of the line etc. These are _probably_ inherent parts of the text control (rather than being something that Thunderbird explicitly controls), but let's see.

Clicking on Help > Keyboard Shortcuts takes me to https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/keyboard-shortcuts-thunderbird?redirectslug=keyboard-shortcuts&redirectlocale=en-US (I'm not sure why it's insistent I use the en-US locale when my system should be en-GB, but that's beside the point). The only

mention of editing/disabling shortcuts is this one line:

Some shortcuts can be customized or disabled with the use of an add-on.

So "some" shortcuts can be [...] disabled, but it doesn't tell you how.
But maybe if there is a particular hotkey that's causing a problem,
someone else might have had the same problem and written an add-on you
can look for?

Thank you.

Well, i'll be typing along, have most assuredly not done a ctl+a, but
all the text will high light, and the next keystroke deletes it all.
Sometimes I can recover with some undo's. Or the message goes away, and
half an hour later I notice there is an unsent msg in the outbox, and it
might be the disappeared msg, but not always. About 50% of the time it
might be a resurrection/read msg dated months ago. This problem has
survived 3 keyboards(this particular one is wired others were wireless, logitech K360's which I like because the keytops are square and I use
them in the garage with my cnc machines because the keys are almost 100%
immune to a bit of swarf following the key down and wedging it down,
very dangerous when the machine is being jogged into position for the
next cut and doesn't stop when your finger is removed from a stuck key)
and 4 or 5 different rodents. Exasperating as can be. And dangerous
since some of the machines are strong enough to kill.

Is there such a hotkey lock out in tbird?

Thank you all;

Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
- Louis D. Brandeis

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Well, i'll be typing along, have most assuredly not done a ctl+a, but all
the text will high light, and the next keystroke deletes it all. Sometimes

In Emacs we have the `view-lossage` command to see what keys have been
received recently so you can find out which funny key sequence you
accidentally typed.

I'd hope other environments provide something similar.


Stefan

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On 8/25/24 14:06, Stefan Monnier wrote:

Well, i'll be typing along, have most assuredly not done a ctl+a, but all
the text will high light, and the next keystroke deletes it all. Sometimes

Maybe you have a touchpad and accidentally made the "select all" gesture by brushing it when passing?

--
Driscoll's Observation: The product of the IQs of each member
of a tech-support conversation is a constant.

-- Michael Driscoll on ASR

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On Sun 25 Aug 2024 at 10:10:21 (-0400), gene heskett wrote:

So "some" shortcuts can be [...] disabled, but it doesn't tell you
how. But maybe if there is a particular hotkey that's causing a
problem, someone else might have had the same problem and written
an add-on you can look for?

Well, i'll be typing along, have most assuredly not done a ctl+a, but
all the text will high light, and the next keystroke deletes it all. Sometimes I can recover with some undo's. Or the message goes away,
and half an hour later I notice there is an unsent msg in the outbox,
and it might be the disappeared msg, but not always. About 50% of the
time it might be a resurrection/read msg dated months ago. This
problem has survived 3 keyboards(this particular one is wired [ … ]

One course of action would be to use an add-on like exteditor,
by which you can use an editor of choice for composing your emails.
Obviously an editor without this SelectAll hotkey facility would be
preferable, like emacs for example. I wonder whether it would let
you use gedit (emails are always small files) or geany, which
I think you've used in the past.

[PS to Gene: just wondered whether you meant to reply only to
me on the subject of screen locking, rather than to the list]

Cheers,
David.

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On 8/29/24 23:03, David Wright wrote:

On Sun 25 Aug 2024 at 10:10:21 (-0400), gene heskett wrote:

So "some" shortcuts can be [...] disabled, but it doesn't tell you
how. But maybe if there is a particular hotkey that's causing a
problem, someone else might have had the same problem and written
an add-on you can look for?

Well, i'll be typing along, have most assuredly not done a ctl+a, but
all the text will high light, and the next keystroke deletes it all.
Sometimes I can recover with some undo's. Or the message goes away,
and half an hour later I notice there is an unsent msg in the outbox,
and it might be the disappeared msg, but not always. About 50% of the
time it might be a resurrection/read msg dated months ago. This
problem has survived 3 keyboards(this particular one is wired [ … ]

One course of action would be to use an add-on like exteditor,
by which you can use an editor of choice for composing your emails.
Obviously an editor without this SelectAll hotkey facility would be preferable, like emacs for example. I wonder whether it would let
you use gedit (emails are always small files) or geany, which
I think you've used in the past.

geany yes, its solid as a rock, gedit has been removed from any system I
find it on after an install since way before wheezy. Its scrambled a
machines config file once too often. Rewriting a .hal file for linuxcnc
is not trivial. Once might be my typo, twice makes me pay attention, 4
time it sentenced me to rewrite an 800 line config from scratch, but I
first found an editor that just worked. That was geany. Or on arms,
nano. Maybe in the ensueing 15+ years gedit has been fixed but I've not
seen any discussion indicating gedit has been fixed, IDK & IDC. it
screwed me over 4 times, each time costing me a dead or wild machine for several days. That violated my 3 strikes=out rule & I go hunting with rm..

[PS to Gene: just wondered whether you meant to reply only to
me on the subject of screen locking, rather than to the list]

This should go to the list.

Cheers,
David.

.

Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
- Louis D. Brandeis

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On 8/29/24 23:03, David Wright wrote:

On Sun 25 Aug 2024 at 10:10:21 (-0400), gene heskett wrote:

So "some" shortcuts can be [...] disabled, but it doesn't tell you
how. But maybe if there is a particular hotkey that's causing a
problem, someone else might have had the same problem and written
an add-on you can look for?

Well, i'll be typing along, have most assuredly not done a ctl+a, but
all the text will high light, and the next keystroke deletes it all.
Sometimes I can recover with some undo's. Or the message goes away,
and half an hour later I notice there is an unsent msg in the outbox,
and it might be the disappeared msg, but not always. About 50% of the
time it might be a resurrection/read msg dated months ago. This
problem has survived 3 keyboards(this particular one is wired [ … ]

One course of action would be to use an add-on like exteditor,
by which you can use an editor of choice for composing your emails.
Obviously an editor without this SelectAll hotkey facility would be preferable, like emacs for example. I wonder whether it would let
you use gedit (emails are always small files) or geany, which
I think you've used in the past.

[PS to Gene: just wondered whether you meant to reply only to
me on the subject of screen locking, rather than to the list]

Cheers,
David.

That is another thing that has been called to my attention. I clicked on
reply list. The address bar says it is. Is it?
Thanks.

.

Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
- Louis D. Brandeis

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