Hello,
my old hp ptotosmart printer died. It worked fine with HPLIP. Now I have to
buy a new one but they all use "HP Smart" for Windows exclusively. I would
like to know if these printers are still compatible with HPLIP. The printer
I want to buy is the "HP OfficeJet Pro 8134e All-ine-One" which is linux compatible according to the specifications but which is configurable with
"HP Smart" under Windows. Will HPLIP be valid for this printer also under
linux ? Otherwise how can it be configured ?

tia.

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On Thu, 29 Aug 2024 14:41:45 +0200
Gerard ROBIN <g.robin3@free.fr> wrote:

my old hp ptotosmart printer died. It worked fine with HPLIP. Now I
have to buy a new one but they all use "HP Smart" for Windows
exclusively. I would like to know if these printers are still
compatible with HPLIP. The printer I want to buy is the "HP OfficeJet
Pro 8134e All-ine-One" which is linux compatible according to the specifications but which is configurable with "HP Smart" under
Windows. Will HPLIP be valid for this printer also under linux ?
Otherwise how can it be configured ?

HP Smart is also available on iPhone, and I would expect it to be
available on Android. My printer (HP LaserJet MFP M232e-M237e series)
also has a web server on it; yours may also. Once the thing is set up
and running, you can use CUPS to manage it.

I will guess that it is a so-called "driverless" printer. If so you may
want avahi on your computers so they can detect and use it painlessly.

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Hi Gerard,

HPLIP stands for hp-linux-imaging-and-printing
^^^^^
and isn't made for other OSs.

Lock here> https://developers.hp.com/hp-linux-imaging-and-printing/supported_devices/index

for compatibility of your new printer.

Kind regards
Frank

Gerard ROBIN:

Hello,
my old hp ptotosmart printer died. It worked fine with HPLIP. Now I have to buy a new one but they all use "HP Smart" for Windows exclusively. I would like to know if these printers are still compatible with HPLIP. The printer
I want to buy is the "HP OfficeJet Pro 8134e All-ine-One" which is linux compatible according to the specifications but which is configurable with
"HP Smart" under Windows. Will HPLIP be valid for this printer also under linux ? Otherwise how can it be configured ?

tia.

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On Thu, 2024-08-29 at 14:41 +0200, Gerard ROBIN wrote:

Hello,
my old hp ptotosmart printer died. It worked fine with HPLIP. Now I
have to
buy a new one but they all use "HP Smart" for Windows exclusively. I
would
like to know if these printers are still compatible with HPLIP. The
printer
I want to buy is the "HP OfficeJet Pro 8134e All-ine-One" which is
linux
compatible according to the specifications but which is configurable
with
"HP Smart" under Windows. Will HPLIP be valid for this printer also
under
linux ? Otherwise how can it be configured ?

About thirty years ago A printer in a box was put on my desk at work. I
don't remember the HP model, but the box said "ready for use with
Windows, Mac or Unix." There were disks of drivers for Windows and Mac
in the box, but none for Unix. I called HP and explained that I had an
HP 720 running HP-UX. The "customer service" agent asked "Is that
Windows or Mac?" I explained slowly that's "Hewlett-Packard Unix." She
repeated her question. I eventually got an e-mail from a user in Norway
who told me the drivers are on the HP-UX distribution disks, but you
needed to get a free "key" from HP to unlock them. There was extra for-
fee software on the distribution disks for which one had to buy a key,
but why where the free HP printer drivers locked on the disk?

The bottom line is that if things at HP haven't changed, be skeptical
of their commitment to Linux support.

tia.

<html><head></head><body><div>On Thu, 2024-08-29 at 14:41 +0200, Gerard ROBIN wrote:</div><blockquote type="cite" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex; border-left:2px #729fcf solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>Hello,<br></div><div>my old hp ptotosmart printer died. It
worked fine with HPLIP. Now I have to<br></div><div>buy a new one but they all use "HP Smart" for Windows exclusively. I would<br></div><div>like to know if these printers are still compatible with HPLIP. The printer<br></div><div>I want to buy is the "
HP OfficeJet Pro 8134e All-ine-One" which is linux<br></div><div>compatible according to the specifications but which is configurable with<br></div><div>"HP Smart" under Windows. Will HPLIP be valid for this printer also under<br></div><div>linux ?
Otherwise how can it be configured ?<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>About thirty years ago A printer in a box was put on my desk at work. I don't remember the HP model, but the box said "ready for use with Windows, Mac or Unix." There were
disks of drivers for Windows and Mac in the box, but none for Unix. I called HP and explained that I had an HP 720 running HP-UX. The "customer service" agent asked "Is that Windows or Mac?" I explained slowly that's "Hewlett-Packard Unix." She repeated
her question. I eventually got an e-mail from a user in Norway who told me the drivers are on the HP-UX distribution disks, but you needed to get a free "key" from HP to unlock them. There was extra for-fee software on the distribution disks for which
one had to buy a key, but why where the free HP printer drivers locked on the disk?</div><div><br></div><div>The bottom line is that if things at HP haven't changed, be skeptical of their commitment to Linux support.</div><div><br></div><blockquote type="
cite" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex; border-left:2px #729fcf solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>tia.<br></div><div><br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><span></span></div></body></html>

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Le Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 06:49:41AM +0100, Brad Rogers a écrit :

Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2024 06:49:41 +0100
From: Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Cc: Debian Users ML <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: printer replacement
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On Fri, 30 Aug 2024 00:27:39 +0200
Gerard ROBIN <g.robin3@free.fr> wrote:

Hello Gerard,

I suspect this will fall on deaf ears, but hear goes......

tia.

Four people replied to this exact same question when you asked it
yesterday.

Please read them.

thanks for your reply. Sorry for sending this useless email. I had forgotten that I was no longer registered on the debian-user list and when I didn't get
a response to my message I realized it and I registered and resent my message. I read the messages of those who answered me and I thank them. I was asking
for help because I tried to configure the HP Smart Tank 7006 printer but it
was impossible: HPLIP is not suitable, CUPS does not see the printer, avahi does not either. The Linux driver for this printer is missing. Finally I returned it and now I'm still looking ... I will think about what Van Snyder wrote and look elsewhere than at HP ?
Thanks again to all four of you.

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Gerard ROBIN <g.robin3@free.fr> writes:

Le Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 06:49:41AM +0100, Brad Rogers a écrit :

Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2024 06:49:41 +0100
From: Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Cc: Debian Users ML <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: printer replacement
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On Fri, 30 Aug 2024 00:27:39 +0200
Gerard ROBIN <g.robin3@free.fr> wrote:

Hello Gerard,

I suspect this will fall on deaf ears, but hear goes......

tia.

Four people replied to this exact same question when you asked it
yesterday.

Please read them.

thanks for your reply. Sorry for sending this useless email. I had forgotten that I was no longer registered on the debian-user list and when I didn't get a response to my message I realized it and I registered and resent my message.
I read the messages of those who answered me and I thank them. I was asking for help because I tried to configure the HP Smart Tank 7006 printer but it was impossible: HPLIP is not suitable, CUPS does not see the printer, avahi does not either. The Linux driver for this printer is missing. Finally I returned it and now I'm still looking ... I will think about what Van Snyder wrote and look elsewhere than at HP ?
Thanks again to all four of you.

Over 30 years or so I have used several HP printers with Debian without
any problem. A couple of years ago I sold the last one, and all-in-one,
due to the exorbitant price of HP ink and the firmware tweaking HP did to prevent one from using non-HP cartridges.

I subsequently bought an Epson, which also works fine with Debian.
However, I print so little these days that when I do, the nozzles have
always dried up and I have to go through the whole maintenance rigmarole
and use up half a dozen sheets just to print a single page :-/

Cheers,

Loris

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On Fri, 2024-08-30 at 15:50 +0200, Loris Bennett wrote:

I subsequently bought an Epson, which also works fine with Debian.
However, I print so little these days that when I do, the nozzles
have
always dried up and I have to go through the whole maintenance
rigmarole
and use up half a dozen sheets just to print a single page :-/

I print a cups test page on my Epsos EcoTank 2720 every week or so, if
I haven't printed something else that contains some colors. That's
enough to keep the print heads clean.


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Debian.<br></div><div>However, I print so little these days that when I do, the nozzles have<br></div><div>always dried up and I have to go through the whole maintenance rigmarole<br></div><div>and use up half a dozen sheets just to print a single page :-
/</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I print a cups test page on my Epsos EcoTank 2720 every week or so, if I haven't printed something else that contains some colors. That's enough to keep the print heads clean.</div><div><br></div><div><span></span><
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On 8/30/24 09:29, Gerard ROBIN wrote:

Le Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 06:49:41AM +0100, Brad Rogers a écrit :

Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2024 06:49:41 +0100
From: Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Cc: Debian Users ML <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: printer replacement
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On Fri, 30 Aug 2024 00:27:39 +0200
Gerard ROBIN <g.robin3@free.fr> wrote:

Hello Gerard,

I suspect this will fall on deaf ears, but hear goes......

tia.

Four people replied to this exact same question when you asked it
yesterday.

Please read them.

thanks for your reply. Sorry for sending this useless email. I had forgotten that I was no longer registered on the debian-user list and when I didn't get a response to my message I realized it and I registered and resent my message.
I read the messages of those who answered me and I thank them. I was asking for help because I tried to configure the HP Smart Tank 7006 printer but it was impossible: HPLIP is not suitable, CUPS does not see the printer, avahi does not either. The Linux driver for this printer is missing. Finally I returned it and now I'm still looking ... I will think about what Van Snyder wrote and look elsewhere than at HP ?
Thanks again to all four of you.

I have had great luck with brother printers when cups is neutered so all
the the factory drivers, which can make the brothers do everything
advertised in the brochure. I have a decade old ink squirter that does
tabloid if that paper is hand fed. An MFC-J6920-DW. Even its lid scanner
is tabloid sized. I also have a B&W laser, the $120 model HL-L2320D now
about 3 years old & just last week put the 2nd new toner in it. 19 or 20
duplex pages a minute. Dudlex is automatic for both if cups-browsed is removed. The cups one size fits all doesn't. It limits the big printer
to feeding $0.50 a sheet foto paper from the top tray, and mucks up the
color while disabling duplex on both printers.

Brothers support for linux systems is great and far less intrusive, no
spyware. The big ink squirter's ink tanks are reasonable compared to
others due to active competition among the ink mixers, you aren't
limited to brother only inks unless you've calibrated it with brother
stuff. Huge, several reams of paper sized black tanks are available for
the big beast.

And tabloid cuts the number of sheets to 1/4 needed for a rockhopper map
of the logic of a linuxcnc machine, a printout of which may require a
4x8 sheet of plywood to paste it up.

Goto the brother site and download their installer script pkg, Unzip it
and run it. It looks at the system to see what it is, then asks you for
the complete model number, goes to the brother site and downloads and
installs the exact driver your brother printer needs and you can then
configure it with the cups home page at localhost:631.

Remember what you named it, there will be other drivers visible in the
cups web page, or in the requester your DE pops up when the print option
is selected, drivers cups installed, but the brother drivers work
flawlessly. Use them and be amazed, they Just Work to the full
capabilities of the printer. They make owning a printer fun.

Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
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On Friday 30 August 2024 09:50:58 am Loris Bennett wrote:

However, I print so little these days that when I do, the nozzles have
always dried up and I have to go through the whole maintenance rigmarole
and use up half a dozen sheets just to print a single page :-/

That's a lot of why I don't for the most part bother with inkjet printers and stick with my old HP 1320. Love that duplexer, too! :-)


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This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text,
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On Fri, 30 Aug 2024, Loris Bennett wrote:

However, I print so little these days that when I do, the nozzles have
always dried up ...

I had an excellent Epson Stylus Color 640, later a HP deskjet 845c and a HP Officejet Pro K550. All they do now is gather dust. I print less and less, and
when I need to print a page I use the self service scanner/printers available in
post offices here in France. €0.30 per page black and white, €0.50 for colour.

Roger

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On 8/29/24 16:27, Gerard ROBIN wrote:

Hello,
my old hp ptotosmart printer died. It worked fine with HPLIP. Now I have to buy a new one but they all use "HP Smart" for Windows exclusively. I would like to know if these printers are still compatible with HPLIP. The printer
I want to buy is the "HP OfficeJet Pro 8134e All-ine-One" which is linux compatible according to the specifications but which is configurable with
"HP Smart" under Windows. Will HPLIP be valid for this printer also under linux ? Otherwise how can it be configured ?

For HP printers, see:
https://developers.hp.com/hp-linux-imaging-and-printing
(found by searching internet for "hplip")

The site has a list of (it says) 3,390 printers. The list of "All Supported Printers" looks like the newest are listed first.

Regards,
Tom Dial

tia.

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On 8/30/24 09:50, Loris Bennett wrote:

Gerard ROBIN <g.robin3@free.fr> writes:

However, I print so little these days that when I do, the nozzles have
always dried up and I have to go through the whole maintenance rigmarole
and use up half a dozen sheets just to print a single page :-/

Yeah, that's why I swore off inkjets. Laser printers don't care how long
they sit.

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On Saturday, 31-08-2024 at 08:33 eben@gmx.us wrote:

On 8/30/24 09:50, Loris Bennett wrote:

Gerard ROBIN <g.robin3@free.fr> writes:

However, I print so little these days that when I do, the nozzles have always dried up and I have to go through the whole maintenance rigmarole and use up half a dozen sheets just to print a single page :-/

Yeah, that's why I swore off inkjets. Laser printers don't care how long they sit.

+1 This is why I gave up using inkjets and moved to Brother Colour laser printers.

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On Friday 30 August 2024 06:33:46 pm eben@gmx.us wrote:

On 8/30/24 09:50, Loris Bennett wrote:

Gerard ROBIN <g.robin3@free.fr> writes:

However, I print so little these days that when I do, the nozzles have always dried up and I have to go through the whole maintenance rigmarole and use up half a dozen sheets just to print a single page :-/

Yeah, that's why I swore off inkjets. Laser printers don't care how long they sit.

I have one old IBM laser printer where the pickup roller seems to have turned into goo...

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DON'T!!!
e-suffix means it only works with HP Instank Ink program (as in: it
requires a monthly subscription).



A sábado, 31/08/2024, 17:24, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. <roy@rtellason.com> escreveu:

On Friday 30 August 2024 06:33:46 pm eben@gmx.us wrote:

On 8/30/24 09:50, Loris Bennett wrote:

Gerard ROBIN <g.robin3@free.fr> writes:

However, I print so little these days that when I do, the nozzles have always dried up and I have to go through the whole maintenance

rigmarole

and use up half a dozen sheets just to print a single page :-/

Yeah, that's why I swore off inkjets. Laser printers don't care how long they sit.

I have one old IBM laser printer where the pickup roller seems to have
turned into goo...

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ablest -- form of life in this section of space, a critter that can
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M Dakin

<div dir="auto">DON&#39;T!!!<div dir="auto">e-suffix means it only works with HP Instank Ink program (as in: it requires a monthly subscription).</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr"
class="gmail_attr">A sábado, 31/08/2024, 17:24, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. &lt;<a href="mailto:roy@rtellason.com">roy@rtellason.com</a>&gt; escreveu:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,
204);padding-left:1ex">On Friday 30 August 2024 06:33:46 pm <a href="mailto:eben@gmx.us" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">eben@gmx.us</a> wrote:<br>
&gt; On 8/30/24 09:50, Loris Bennett wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt; Gerard ROBIN &lt;<a href="mailto:g.robin3@free.fr" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">g.robin3@free.fr</a>&gt; writes:<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; However, I print so little these days that when I do, the nozzles have<br>
&gt; &gt; always dried up and I have to go through the whole maintenance rigmarole<br>
&gt; &gt; and use up half a dozen sheets just to print a single page :-/<br> &gt; <br>
&gt; Yeah, that&#39;s why I swore off inkjets.  Laser printers don&#39;t care how long<br>
&gt; they sit.<br>

I have one old IBM laser printer where the pickup roller seems to have turned into goo...<br>

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ablest -- form of life in this section of space,  a critter that can<br>
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M Dakin<br>

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On Sun, Sep 01, 2024 at 09:01:46PM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote:

On Sun, 1 Sep 2024 19:29:01 +0100
lst7cqtfws@ol1y.com wrote:

Hello lst7cqtfws@ol1y.com,

e-suffix means it only works with HP Instank Ink program (as in: it

Utter drivel.

They still try to make your life miserable if you don't:

Ink: Unfortunately, this printer like most HP printers has a lot of
limitations on the type of ink that is allowed to be used. You can
only use HP branded cartridges that contain a chip in it or subscribe
to Instant Ink (HP’s cartridge subscription service). The printer
comes with 3 months free of Instant Ink but the cartridge will no
longer function once you stop paying the monthly fee and you are
limited on how many pages you can print each month. You pay monthly
depending on the tier you choose. Furthermore, the printer only
comes with starter ink cartridges that are only a small portion
of a full cartridge, which means relatively immediately, you have
to subscribe to a monthly ink service or buy a full set of ink
cartridges. The starter cartridges are barely enough to print a few
lengthy documents and are an environmental waste of the cartridge. I
don’t like feeling so limited in what type of ink or how much
I can print each month and having another recurring monthly bill,
especially when my printing needs change every month.

[1]

I wouldn't buy that. This is the "inkjet gouging model", heavily
enhanced (chip-on-cartridge plus app plus printer phoning home).
That said, most inkjets have mutated into that.

Cheers

[1] https://www.bestbuy.com/site/reviews/hp-officejet-pro-8135e-wireless-all-in-one-inkjet-printer-with-3-months-of-instant-ink-included-with-hp-white/6565476

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Brad wrote:

On Sun, 1 Sep 2024 19:29:01 +0100
lst7cqtfws@ol1y.com wrote:

e-suffix means it only works with HP Instank Ink program (as in: it

Utter drivel.

The e suffix means 'enhanced'. That is, it has some improvement(s) over
the base model.

https://www.theregister.com/2024/07/09/hp_to_discontinue_eseries_laserjets/

has a lot more information about this area. HP used to sell some
really good products, but that went away some time ago. The massively
expensive ink and toner lockin thing is a good reason to never give HP
money again.

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On 9/2/24 10:04, Steve McIntyre wrote:

Brad wrote:

On Sun, 1 Sep 2024 19:29:01 +0100
lst7cqtfws@ol1y.com wrote:

e-suffix means it only works with HP Instank Ink program (as in: it

Utter drivel.

The e suffix means 'enhanced'. That is, it has some improvement(s) over
the base model.

https://www.theregister.com/2024/07/09/hp_to_discontinue_eseries_laserjets/

has a lot more information about this area. HP used to sell some
really good products, but that went away some time ago. The massively expensive ink and toner lockin thing is a good reason to never give HP
money again.

That's a shame. Over the years I've had several of their RPN calculators, inkjets, and laser printers, and I really liked them all. Now, I don't know what I'll do when this LJ 4200 dies. I really like the user-settable display.

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These are conspiracy theorists. They're cued to suspect someone is
lying to them. They pride themselves on being awake in the world. But
they're sleepwalking through the most transparent baloney imaginable.
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On Mon, Sep 02, 2024 at 03:04:40PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:

Brad wrote:

On Sun, 1 Sep 2024 19:29:01 +0100
lst7cqtfws@ol1y.com wrote:

e-suffix means it only works with HP Instank Ink program (as in: it

Utter drivel.

The e suffix means 'enhanced'. That is, it has some improvement(s) over >the base model.

https://www.theregister.com/2024/07/09/hp_to_discontinue_eseries_laserjets/

Thanks for the link. So they not only lock you into the consumable,
but they also need to phone home to function properly.

Now if someone with access to the (heh) fine print could tell us
what (and what not) HP commits to wrt. sharing that data with their
friendly data broker(s)...

Somehow I get the impression this whole kaboodle is going to implode
in very strange ways.

Cheers
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tomás

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