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    From Maureen L Thomas@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 11 02:20:01 2024
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    My old HP is not working right and it is very old.  I am looking at
    laser printers and have always favored HP.  But, in saying that I am
    open to any brand.  I always get an all in one model since it does come
    in handy.  Any advice is welcome.  Thanks in advance.

    Maureen

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  • From Ash Joubert@21:1/5 to Maureen L Thomas on Wed Sep 11 08:20:01 2024
    On 2024-09-11 12:18, Maureen L Thomas wrote:
    My old HP is not working right and it is very old.  I am looking at
    laser printers and have always favored HP.  But, in saying that I am
    open to any brand.  I always get an all in one model since it does come
    in handy.  Any advice is welcome.  Thanks in advance.

    Every time this question comes up at work, the response is always the
    same: to send the latest version of this article:
    "After a full year of not thinking about printers, the best printer is
    still whatever random Brother laser printer that’s on sale." https://www.theverge.com/2024/4/2/24117976/best-printer-2024-home-use-office-use-labels-school-homework
    My Brother MFC-L2740DW All-In-One Mono Laser (discontinued) is almost
    ten years old and continues to serve me well. I am sure they have newer
    models that are similar. It is on my WiFi network (as 192.168.0.42) and
    also serves a Mac and a Windows PC.

    - Open source CUPS drivers work (foomatic-db-compressed-ppds
    20230202-1), though the Gnome print dialog seems to required for high
    quality printing

    - Closed source (?) scanner drivers work (brscan4 0.4.11-10)

    I am on sid amd64. My setup notes:


    CUPS config:

    Use ipp connection and select Brother / IPP Everywhere driver

    Description: Brother MFC-L2740DW
    Driver: MFC-L2740DW series - IPP Everywhere (grayscale, 2-sided printing)
    Connection: ipp://192.168.0.42/ipp
    Defaults: job-sheets=none, none media=iso_a4_210x297mm sides=two-sided-long-edge

    Options: quality normal, two-sided long edge


    Sane config (run as root):

    brsaneconfig4 -a name=Brother_MFC-L2740DW model=MFC-L2740DW ip=192.168.0.42

    Check config:

    $ cat /etc/opt/brother/scanner/brscan4/brsanenetdevice4.cfg DEVICE=Brother_MFC-L2740DW , "MFC-L2740DW" , 0x4f9:0x320 , IP-ADDRESS=192.168.0.42


    Cheers,

    --
    Ash Joubert (they/them) <ash@transient.nz>
    Director / Game Developer
    Transient Software Limited <https://transient.nz/>
    New Zealand

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  • From Will Mengarini@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 11 09:10:01 2024
    * Ash Joubert <ash@transient.nz> [24-09/11=Wed 17:19 +1200]:
    On 2024-09-11 12:18, Maureen L Thomas wrote:
    My old HP is not working right and it is very old. I am looking at
    laser printers and have always favored HP. But, in saying that I am
    open to any brand. I always get an all in one model since it does come
    in handy. Any advice is welcome. Thanks in advance.

    Every time this question comes up at work, the response is always the same: to send the latest version of this article:
    "After a full year of not thinking about printers, the best printer is still whatever random Brother laser printer that's on sale." https://www.theverge.com/2024/4/2/24117976/best-printer-2024-home-use-office-use-labels-school-homework
    My Brother MFC-L2740DW All-In-One Mono Laser (discontinued) is almost ten years old and continues to serve me well. I am sure they have newer models that are similar. It is on my WiFi network (as 192.168.0.42) and also serves a Mac and a Windows PC.

    - Open source CUPS drivers work (foomatic-db-compressed-ppds 20230202-1), though the Gnome print dialog seems to required for high quality printing

    - Closed source (?) scanner drivers work (brscan4 0.4.11-10)

    I am on sid amd64. My setup notes:


    CUPS config:

    Use ipp connection and select Brother / IPP Everywhere driver

    Description: Brother MFC-L2740DW
    Driver: MFC-L2740DW series - IPP Everywhere (grayscale, 2-sided printing)
    Connection: ipp://192.168.0.42/ipp
    Defaults: job-sheets=none, none media=iso_a4_210x297mm sides=two-sided-long-edge

    Options: quality normal, two-sided long edge


    Sane config (run as root):

    brsaneconfig4 -a name=Brother_MFC-L2740DW model=MFC-L2740DW ip=192.168.0.42

    Check config:

    $ cat /etc/opt/brother/scanner/brscan4/brsanenetdevice4.cfg DEVICE=Brother_MFC-L2740DW , "MFC-L2740DW" , 0x4f9:0x320 , IP-ADDRESS=192.168.0.42


    Cheers,

    --
    Ash Joubert (they/them) <ash@transient.nz>
    Director / Game Developer
    Transient Software Limited <https://transient.nz/>
    New Zealand

    I have nothing to add; I posted only because this is such a good
    answer that I wanted it to have an informative subject line.

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  • From basti@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 11 09:50:01 2024
    Am 11.09.24 um 09:03 schrieb Will Mengarini:
    * Ash Joubert <ash@transient.nz> [24-09/11=Wed 17:19 +1200]:
    On 2024-09-11 12:18, Maureen L Thomas wrote:
    My old HP is not working right and it is very old. I am looking at
    laser printers and have always favored HP. But, in saying that I am
    open to any brand. I always get an all in one model since it does come
    in handy. Any advice is welcome. Thanks in advance.

    Every time this question comes up at work, the response is always the same: >> to send the latest version of this article:
    "After a full year of not thinking about printers, the best printer is still >> whatever random Brother laser printer that's on sale."
    https://www.theverge.com/2024/4/2/24117976/best-printer-2024-home-use-office-use-labels-school-homework
    My Brother MFC-L2740DW All-In-One Mono Laser (discontinued) is almost ten
    years old and continues to serve me well. I am sure they have newer models >> that are similar. It is on my WiFi network (as 192.168.0.42) and also serves >> a Mac and a Windows PC.

    Brother printers have been OK for small home loads so far, but HP would
    be preferable.

    Therefore:

    - Toner cartridges contain not only toner, but also various rollers that
    are renewed with each toner

    - Drivers as PPD files, not a binary blob, all CPU architectures that
    can run CUPS are supported

    In my experience over the last 15 years, Brother printers cause more
    problems in office environments than HP printers.

    Best Regards

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  • From Hans@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 11 10:20:01 2024
    Am Mittwoch, 11. September 2024, 02:18:03 CEST schrieb Maureen L Thomas:
    My old HP is not working right and it is very old. I am looking at
    laser printers and have always favored HP. But, in saying that I am
    open to any brand. I always get an all in one model since it does come
    in handy. Any advice is welcome. Thanks in advance.

    Maureen
    Hi Maureen,

    I am great friend of "Brother" printers. They are cheap and reliable and they are well supported by linux. Brother is offering deb packages for installing or a linu script, which is downloading and installing these packages automatically.

    I also had some eperience with printers from Epson. They are also offering installation packages, but sometimes they are outdated. I believe, Epson is
    not so much intereested in customers using linux as Brother is.

    Before you buy: Be sure, the manufacturer is sopporting linux.

    Hope, this helps.

    Best

    Hans

    P.S. Oh, and before you buy, check and compare prices of printer cartridges, they often differ much.

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  • From Gerard ROBIN@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 11 11:50:01 2024
    Le Tue, Sep 10, 2024 at 08:18:03PM -0400, Maureen L Thomas a écrit :
    Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2024 20:18:03 -0400
    From: Maureen L Thomas <silverorb@verizon.net>
    To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
    Subject: Just a simple question.

    My old HP is not working right and it is very old.  I am looking at laser printers and have always favored HP.  But, in saying that I am open to any brand.  I always get an all in one model since it does come in handy.  Any advice is welcome.  Thanks in advance.

    Same problem, my old HP printer worked fine with HPLIP but new HP printers don't support HPLIP anymore. Finally I bought a Brother that I could
    configure very easily with Bookworm. And if needed Brother provides Debian packages for configuration.

    --
    Gerard
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  • From Stefan Monnier@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 11 17:20:01 2024
    I am great friend of "Brother" printers. They are cheap and reliable and they are well supported by linux. Brother is offering deb packages for installing or a linu script, which is downloading and installing these packages automatically.

    Of course, that means you're at the mercy of Brother providing the
    drivers which work for your printer&computer and those deb packages
    typically aren't as nicely integrated into your Debian system as if
    they'd been packaged by Debian.

    E.g. do they provide armhf builds? Are they for Ubuntu? Debian?
    Stable? Testing? Sid? Oldstable? Do they risk messing up other parts
    of your config? Can you determine that they can't send confidential
    info back to Brother or act as puppets after they've been hacked
    because of an undisclosed security hole somewhere?

    If the drivers (print&scan) are not distributed in Debian's main
    archive, I can't recommend it.

    Before you buy: Be sure, the manufacturer is sopporting linux.

    Where "supporting" means that it provides code as Free Software, so it
    can be adapted to any other OS and architecture you like.

    Luckily, nowadays most printers support the standard APIs for
    "driverless" printing and scanning, so the nasty proprietary code is
    confined to the actual printer, but you might still prefer to put that
    printer on a separate non-routed subnetwork so *you* control it rather
    than the manufacturer.


    Stefan

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  • From Michael Lange@21:1/5 to Maureen L Thomas on Wed Sep 11 18:30:01 2024
    Hi Maureen,

    On Tue, 10 Sep 2024 20:18:03 -0400
    Maureen L Thomas <silverorb@verizon.net> wrote:

    My old HP is not working right and it is very old.  I am looking at
    laser printers and have always favored HP.  But, in saying that I am
    open to any brand.  I always get an all in one model since it does
    come in handy.  Any advice is welcome.  Thanks in advance.

    Maureen

    if you haven't already done so, you might want to have a look for
    HP printer models supported by hplip here:

    https://developers.hp.com/hp-linux-imaging-and-printing/supported_devices/index

    Best regards,

    Michael

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