Is there anywhere I can download really, really ancient debian images. I
need potato or older (i386). I'd like a mountable disk image.

I have no idea if debootstrap supports this, I haven't tried (yet), I
was hoping there was somewhere I could download an image.

This is to build some ancient software. I've tried Jessie, which is the
oldest release I have images for but unfortunately that has e2fslibs-dev
1.42 while the software will not build with e2fslibs >1.19.

The oldest backups I still have go back to 2006 which, sadly, is way too modern. Checking the potato release information says security updates
were discontinued in 2003. I switched from Redhat to Debian around that
time so I'm likely not to have had any backups for potato anyway
although I did at least boot it at that time.

Tim.

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On Sat, Sep 14, 2024 at 04:15:46PM +0100, Tim Woodall wrote:

The oldest backups I still have go back to 2006 which, sadly, is way too modern. Checking the potato release information says security updates
were discontinued in 2003. I switched from Redhat to Debian around that time so I'm likely not to have had any backups for potato anyway
although I did at least boot it at that time.

And, of course, as soon as I sent that I found a potato CD on
archive.org. Downloading now - it's going to take a while - about 20x
faster than it would have been back in the day over dialup but
definitely not a high speed archive :-)

https://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/ has images going all the way back
to 1.3. Prior to 3.0 is in the "older-contrib" directory.

Cheers,
Tom

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On Sat, 14 Sep 2024, Tim Woodall wrote:

Is there anywhere I can download really, really ancient debian images. I
need potato or older (i386). I'd like a mountable disk image.

I have no idea if debootstrap supports this, I haven't tried (yet), I
was hoping there was somewhere I could download an image.

This is to build some ancient software. I've tried Jessie, which is the oldest release I have images for but unfortunately that has e2fslibs-dev
1.42 while the software will not build with e2fslibs >1.19.

The oldest backups I still have go back to 2006 which, sadly, is way too modern. Checking the potato release information says security updates
were discontinued in 2003. I switched from Redhat to Debian around that
time so I'm likely not to have had any backups for potato anyway
although I did at least boot it at that time.

And, of course, as soon as I sent that I found a potato CD on
archive.org. Downloading now - it's going to take a while - about 20x
faster than it would have been back in the day over dialup but
definitely not a high speed archive :-)

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On 14 Sep 2024 16:15 +0100, from debianuser@woodall.me.uk (Tim Woodall):

Is there anywhere I can download really, really ancient debian images. I
need potato or older (i386). I'd like a mountable disk image.

And, of course, as soon as I sent that I found a potato CD on
archive.org. Downloading now - it's going to take a while - about 20x
faster than it would have been back in the day over dialup but
definitely not a high speed archive :-)

There's also archive.debian.org. See for example https://archive.debian.org/debian/dists/potato/main/disks-i386/2.2.26-2001-06-14/images-1.44/

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On Sat, 14 Sep 2024, Tom Furie wrote:

On Sat, Sep 14, 2024 at 04:15:46PM +0100, Tim Woodall wrote:

The oldest backups I still have go back to 2006 which, sadly, is way too >>> modern. Checking the potato release information says security updates
were discontinued in 2003. I switched from Redhat to Debian around that
time so I'm likely not to have had any backups for potato anyway
although I did at least boot it at that time.

And, of course, as soon as I sent that I found a potato CD on
archive.org. Downloading now - it's going to take a while - about 20x
faster than it would have been back in the day over dialup but
definitely not a high speed archive :-)

https://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/ has images going all the way back to 1.3. Prior to 3.0 is in the "older-contrib" directory.

Thanks! I didn't see that "older-contrib" directory and I assumed they'd
been deleted.

That's downloading much, much faster than archive.org.

Tim.

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On Sat, 14 Sep 2024, Michael Kjörling wrote:

On 14 Sep 2024 16:15 +0100, from debianuser@woodall.me.uk (Tim Woodall):

Is there anywhere I can download really, really ancient debian images. I >>> need potato or older (i386). I'd like a mountable disk image.

And, of course, as soon as I sent that I found a potato CD on
archive.org. Downloading now - it's going to take a while - about 20x
faster than it would have been back in the day over dialup but
definitely not a high speed archive :-)

There's also archive.debian.org. See for example https://archive.debian.org/debian/dists/potato/main/disks-i386/2.2.26-2001-06-14/images-1.44/

This is fantastic, thanks all!

And for anyone who might want to do something like this in the future,
the only file I actually needed was:

https://archive.debian.org/debian/dists/potato/main/disks-i386/2.2.26-2001-06-14/base2_2.tgz

I downloaded the CD, mounted it and got it that way but it can be
downloaded directly. I assume the other old things are similar.

I've managed to build versions going all the way back to 1999.

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Hi Tim,

On 9/14/24 6:32 PM, Tim Woodall wrote:

On Sat, 14 Sep 2024, Michael Kjörling wrote:

On 14 Sep 2024 16:15 +0100, from debianuser@woodall.me.uk (Tim Woodall): >>>> Is there anywhere I can download really, really ancient debian

images. I
need potato or older (i386). I'd like a mountable disk image.

And, of course, as soon as I sent that I found a potato CD on
archive.org. Downloading now - it's going to take a while - about 20x
faster than it would have been back in the day over dialup but
definitely not a high speed archive :-)

There's also archive.debian.org. See for example
https://archive.debian.org/debian/dists/potato/main/disks-
i386/2.2.26-2001-06-14/images-1.44/

This is fantastic, thanks all!

And for anyone who might want to do something like this in the future,
the only file I actually needed was:

https://archive.debian.org/debian/dists/potato/main/disks- i386/2.2.26-2001-06-14/base2_2.tgz

I downloaded the CD, mounted it and got it that way but it can be
downloaded directly. I assume the other old things are similar.

I've managed to build versions going all the way back to 1999.

Now for the main question: Why do you need ancient Debian?


best regards,
chris

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On Sat, Sep 14, 2024 at 10:27:01PM +0200, Christian Groessler wrote:

[...]

Now for the main question: Why do you need ancient Debian?

Was in the original post: "This is to build some ancient software."

(I've been in a similar situation myself)

Cheers
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t

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