• need jigdo help

    From gene heskett@21:1/5 to All on Sat Sep 21 12:50:01 2024
    Hi all, attempting to obtain a netinstall for trixie
    ls of working directory:
    -rw-r--r-- 1 gene gene 46282 Sep 21 06:22 debian-testing-amd64-netinst.jigdo
    -rw-r--r-- 1 gene gene 149573718 Sep 21 06:23 debian-testing-amd64-netinst.template

    command issued and results after installing jigdo-file:(word wrapped by
    tbird)

    gene@coyote:~/linuxcnc_trixie_install$ jigdo-file mi --template=debian-testing-amd64-netinst.template
    Found 0 of the 1001 files required by the template
    Will not create image or temporary file - try again with different input
    files

    What am I doing wrong?

    tnx.

    Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
    --
    "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
    soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
    -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
    If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
    - Louis D. Brandeis

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  • From Thomas Schmitt@21:1/5 to Gene Heskett on Sat Sep 21 13:50:02 2024
    Hi,

    I always used jigdo-lite (and described it at:
    https://wiki.debian.org/JigdoOnLive#Download_one_or_more_Jigdo_ISOs
    )
    jigdo-lite is the official advise by Debian:
    https://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/#how


    Gene Heskett wrote:
    gene@coyote:~/linuxcnc_trixie_install$ jigdo-file mi --template=debian-testing-amd64-netinst.template
    Found 0 of the 1001 files required by the template

    jigdo-file seems to be for production of the image from .template
    and local files:
    https://manpages.debian.org/bookworm/jigdo-file/jigdo-file.1.en.html
    "MAKE-IMAGE, MI
    Reads `.template' and FILES, creates image (or `imagename.tmp').
    Provides a rudimentary way of reassembling images - jigdo is usually
    better suited for this task. However, in contrast to jigdo, no
    `.jigdo' file is required."

    Unless you have a local Debian package mirror reachable by your
    filesystem, you will have to obtain the beef of the ISO image from the internet.
    A .jigdo file contains URLs like
    [Servers]
    Debian=http://us.cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/snapshot/Debian/
    Debian=http://snapshot.debian.org/archive/debian/20230611T102113Z/ --try-last as package sources of last resort.
    jigdo-lite will ask for the URL of your favorite Debian mirror server
    as package source for first tries.


    Have a nice day :)

    Thomas

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  • From Tom Furie@21:1/5 to gene heskett on Sat Sep 21 15:40:02 2024
    On Sat, Sep 21, 2024 at 06:49:25AM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
    Hi all, attempting to obtain a netinstall for trixie

    gene@coyote:~/linuxcnc_trixie_install$ jigdo-file mi --template=debian-testing-amd64-netinst.template
    Found 0 of the 1001 files required by the template

    To recrate an ISO from jigdo you probbly want to look at jigdo-lite, from
    the same package. As far as I know, jigdo-file is for creating the jigdo
    files.

    Cheers,
    Tom

    --
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  • From Andrew M.A. Cater@21:1/5 to gene heskett on Sat Sep 21 17:10:02 2024
    On Sat, Sep 21, 2024 at 06:49:25AM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
    Hi all, attempting to obtain a netinstall for trixie
    ls of working directory:
    -rw-r--r-- 1 gene gene 46282 Sep 21 06:22 debian-testing-amd64-netinst.jigdo
    -rw-r--r-- 1 gene gene 149573718 Sep 21 06:23 debian-testing-amd64-netinst.template

    command issued and results after installing jigdo-file:(word wrapped by tbird)


    As others have said: you need to use jigdo-lite rather than jigdo-file.

    Download the netinst<dot>template and netinst<dot>Jigdo files from

    https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/jigdo-cd/

    as below:

    https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/jigdo-cd/debian-12.7.0-amd64-netinst.jigdo

    https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/jigdo-cd/debian-12.7.0-amd64-netinst.template

    Run jigdo-lite in a terminal as root

    It will prompt you for the location of the jigdo file - probably something like /home/gene/Downloads/debian-12.7.0-amd64.jigdo

    It should prompt you for the location of a Debian mirror - give it a URL for your nearest Debian mirror or http://deb.debian.org/debian/

    It will look in the directory you gave for the .jigdo file to find the .template and should not need to redownload this.

    It should then "just work" - I've just been doing exactly this to check.

    All the very best, as ever,

    Andrew Cater
    (amacater@debian.org)

    gene@coyote:~/linuxcnc_trixie_install$ jigdo-file mi --template=debian-testing-amd64-netinst.template
    Found 0 of the 1001 files required by the template
    Will not create image or temporary file - try again with different input files

    What am I doing wrong?

    tnx.

    Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
    --
    "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
    soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
    -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
    If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
    - Louis D. Brandeis


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  • From Thomas Schmitt@21:1/5 to Andrew M.A. Cater on Sat Sep 21 17:20:01 2024
    Hi,

    Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
    Run jigdo-lite in a terminal as root

    Why as root ?
    I never had to be root when i used it.


    (Actually Gene Heskett was not too wrong when using jigdo-file, because jigdo-lite itself uses jigdo-file at multiple occasions.
    https://sources.debian.org/src/jigdo/0.8.2-1/scripts/jigdo-lite )


    Have a nice day :)

    Thomas

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  • From gene heskett@21:1/5 to Andrew M.A. Cater on Sat Sep 21 19:40:01 2024
    On 9/21/24 11:05, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
    On Sat, Sep 21, 2024 at 06:49:25AM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
    Hi all, attempting to obtain a netinstall for trixie
    ls of working directory:
    -rw-r--r-- 1 gene gene 46282 Sep 21 06:22
    debian-testing-amd64-netinst.jigdo
    -rw-r--r-- 1 gene gene 149573718 Sep 21 06:23
    debian-testing-amd64-netinst.template

    command issued and results after installing jigdo-file:(word wrapped by
    tbird)


    As others have said: you need to use jigdo-lite rather than jigdo-file.

    Download the netinst<dot>template and netinst<dot>Jigdo files from

    https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/jigdo-cd/

    as below:

    https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/jigdo-cd/debian-12.7.0-amd64-netinst.jigdo

    https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/jigdo-cd/debian-12.7.0-amd64-netinst.template

    Run jigdo-lite in a terminal as root

    It will prompt you for the location of the jigdo file - probably something like /home/gene/Downloads/debian-12.7.0-amd64.jigdo

    It should prompt you for the location of a Debian mirror - give it a URL for your nearest Debian mirror or http://deb.debian.org/debian/

    It will look in the directory you gave for the .jigdo file to find the .template and should not need to redownload this.

    It should then "just work" - I've just been doing exactly this to check.

    All the very best, as ever,

    Andrew Cater
    (amacater@debian.org)

    Thank you Andy, obviously jigdo-file was wrong command. already printed
    FFR. IMO the man pages suck, no obvious cross correlation to guide the
    user toward success. Needs at least a see also section at the bottom.

    gene@coyote:~/linuxcnc_trixie_install$ jigdo-file mi
    --template=debian-testing-amd64-netinst.template
    Found 0 of the 1001 files required by the template
    Will not create image or temporary file - try again with different input
    files

    What am I doing wrong?

    tnx.

    Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
    --
    "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
    soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
    -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
    If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
    - Louis D. Brandeis


    .

    Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
    --
    "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
    soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
    -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
    If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
    - Louis D. Brandeis

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  • From gene heskett@21:1/5 to gene heskett on Sat Sep 21 21:10:02 2024
    On 9/21/24 13:34, gene heskett wrote:
    On 9/21/24 11:05, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
    On Sat, Sep 21, 2024 at 06:49:25AM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
    Hi all, attempting to obtain a netinstall for trixie
    ls of working directory:
    -rw-r--r-- 1 gene gene     46282 Sep 21 06:22
    debian-testing-amd64-netinst.jigdo
    -rw-r--r-- 1 gene gene 149573718 Sep 21 06:23
    debian-testing-amd64-netinst.template

    command issued and results after installing jigdo-file:(word wrapped by
    tbird)


    As others have said: you need to use jigdo-lite rather than jigdo-file.

    Download the netinst<dot>template and netinst<dot>Jigdo files from

    https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/jigdo-cd/

    as below:

    https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/jigdo-cd/debian-12.7.0-amd64-netinst.jigdo

    https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/jigdo-cd/debian-12.7.0-amd64-netinst.template

    Run jigdo-lite in a terminal as root

    It will prompt you for the location of the jigdo file - probably
    something like /home/gene/Downloads/debian-12.7.0-amd64.jigdo

    It should prompt you for the location of a Debian mirror - give it a
    URL for
    your nearest Debian mirror or http://deb.debian.org/debian/

    It will look in the directory you gave for the .jigdo file to find the
    .template and should not need to redownload this.

    It should then "just work" - I've just been doing exactly this to check.

    All the very best, as ever,

    Andrew Cater
    (amacater@debian.org)
    Well, since its looking like rain which we need badly, and I'm still
    barefoot but bandaged to the knees, I'm stuck playing. The linuxcnc
    people have a hybrid iso for 12.6, which should update to 12.7, so I've
    pulled it and burnt it to a dvd+rw.

    But burning it, I spotted xfburn in the menu's, looks nice but when will
    it actually be able to burn an iso???

    So I had to fall back to k3b which worked, once I had found the iso. The selection window is only 6 or so filenames tall, mouse wheel scrolls 50
    names at a time, making, when there are 1000+ entries in my home dir,
    very frustrating. The right hand scroll buttons only work when they want
    to, so it took me >15 minutes to find the file & get the write started.
    k3b has existed in this condition of making it near impossible to find
    the iso to be burnt for what seems like a decade. Ingo can't be
    bothered to fix a huge usability problem.

    I have 100 count spindles of every type of cd/dvd ever made, but have
    not stored them in closed, dark spaces. Long term exposure to the room
    lights apparently erases the ID track. The only type surviving a decade
    and still working as advertised is some sony brand dvd+rw's.

    So when does xfburn grow erase/write abilities?

    Thank you Andy, obviously jigdo-file was wrong command. already printed
    FFR. IMO the man pages suck, no obvious cross correlation to guide the
    user toward success.  Needs at least a see also section at the bottom.

    gene@coyote:~/linuxcnc_trixie_install$ jigdo-file mi
    --template=debian-testing-amd64-netinst.template
    Found 0 of the 1001 files required by the template
    Will not create image or temporary file - try again with different input >>> files

    What am I doing wrong?

    tnx.

    Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
    --
    "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
      soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
    -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
    If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law
    respectable.
      - Louis D. Brandeis


    .

    Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.

    Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
    --
    "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
    soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
    -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
    If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
    - Louis D. Brandeis

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  • From Andrew M.A. Cater@21:1/5 to gene heskett on Sat Sep 21 21:40:01 2024
    On Sat, Sep 21, 2024 at 03:02:36PM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
    On 9/21/24 13:34, gene heskett wrote:
    On 9/21/24 11:05, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:

    All the very best, as ever,

    Andrew Cater
    (amacater@debian.org)
    Well, since its looking like rain which we need badly, and I'm still
    barefoot but bandaged to the knees, I'm stuck playing. The linuxcnc people have a hybrid iso for 12.6, which should update to 12.7, so I've pulled it and burnt it to a dvd+rw.

    So when does xfburn grow erase/write abilities?


    It may have them - I haven't used it.

    I quite like the command line utility growisofs for an ISO image:

    growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=debian-12.7.0-amd64-netinst.iso

    Again, this should "just work" and is essentially the Example from the
    man page.

    xorriso should also work, of course, and Thomas can help on that one :)

    At this point, I've long since given up on CD or DVD physical media except
    as a very last resort.

    As mentioned extensively on this list in the last ten days or so:

    dd if=/home/Gene/debian-12.7.0-amd64-netinst.iso of=/dev/sdX obs=4M oflag=sync
    status=progress

    where /dev/sdX is wherever the USB stick is recognised when you stick it in.
    ( mount on its own will tell you what file systems are recognised).

    If the USB stick automounts, unmount it before running the command above.

    All the best, as ever,

    Andy Cater
    (amacater@debian.org)




    Thank you Andy, obviously jigdo-file was wrong command. already printed FFR. IMO the man pages suck, no obvious cross correlation to guide the
    user toward success.  Needs at least a see also section at the bottom.

    gene@coyote:~/linuxcnc_trixie_install$ jigdo-file mi --template=debian-testing-amd64-netinst.template
    Found 0 of the 1001 files required by the template
    Will not create image or temporary file - try again with different input
    files

    What am I doing wrong?

    tnx.

    Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
    --
    "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
      soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
    -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
    If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
      - Louis D. Brandeis


    .

    Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.

    Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
    --
    "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
    soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
    -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
    If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
    - Louis D. Brandeis


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  • From gene heskett@21:1/5 to mick.crane on Mon Sep 23 02:20:01 2024
    On 9/22/24 04:42, mick.crane wrote:
    On 2024-09-21 20:02, gene heskett wrote:

    But burning it, I spotted xfburn in the menu's, looks nice but when
    will it actually be able to burn an iso???

    If remembering correctly from a while ago had to click in the boxes for
    write speed and some other thing for xfburn to show its defaults, then
    it worked.
    (bookworm)
    mick

    Whoever wrote the error msg should have pointed to that instead of
    claiming burning has not been implemented.

    I'll have to give that a try, thanks mick.
    .

    Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
    --
    "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
    soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
    -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
    If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
    - Louis D. Brandeis

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