I have used firefox for ages without a problem til now. I am using the latest update of debian 12, on a HP computer that is using linux quite nicely. Any way all of a sudden there are web pages that no longer open on firefox. Credit Karma, our local Bob Evans rest., and a couple of others. Is there a problem with firefox-esr 115.15.0esr-1~deb12u1.
On 10/3/24 9:39 PM, eben@gmx.us wrote:
On 10/3/24 21:15, Maureen L Thomas wrote:
I have used firefox for ages without a problem til now. I am using the >>> latest update of debian 12, on a HP computer that is using linux quite
nicely. Any way all of a sudden there are web pages that no longer open on
firefox. Credit Karma, our local Bob Evans rest., and a couple of others. >>> Is there a problem with firefox-esr 115.15.0esr-1~deb12u1.
Both https://www.creditkarma.com/ and https://www.bobevans.com/ work for me. >> Perhaps you have a plugin they don't like?
eben@cerberus:~$ apt list --installed | grep firef
WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in
scripts.
firefox-esr/stable-security,proposed-updates,now 115.15.0esr-1~deb12u1 amd64 >> [installed]
This is what I got doing the apt:
firefox-esr-l10n-en-ca/stable-security,proposed-updates,now 115.15.0esr-1~deb12u1 all [installed] firefox-esr-l10n-en-gb/stable-security,proposed-updates,now 115.15.0esr-1~deb12u1 all [installed] firefox-esr/stable-security,proposed-updates,now 115.15.0esr-1~deb12u1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
On 4 Oct 2024 00:04 -0400, from eben@gmx.us:
eben@cerberus:~$ apt list --installed | grep firef
WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts.
firefox-esr/stable-security,proposed-updates,now 115.15.0esr-1~deb12u1 amd64 [installed]
This is what I got doing the apt:
firefox-esr-l10n-en-ca/stable-security,proposed-updates,now 115.15.0esr-1~deb12u1 all [installed]
firefox-esr-l10n-en-gb/stable-security,proposed-updates,now 115.15.0esr-1~deb12u1 all [installed]
firefox-esr/stable-security,proposed-updates,now 115.15.0esr-1~deb12u1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
I'm not sure how to interpret two identical lines. Do they appear right
next to each other in the output of apt list --installed?
I do not see any identical lines. (Reflowed above to undo the effects
of original post word wrapping.) There's firefox-esr-l10n-en-{ca,gb}
and the main firefox-esr package.
eben@cerberus:~$ apt list --installed | grep firef
WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts.
firefox-esr/stable-security,proposed-updates,now 115.15.0esr-1~deb12u1 amd64 [installed]
This is what I got doing the apt:
firefox-esr-l10n-en-ca/stable-security,proposed-updates,now 115.15.0esr-1~deb12u1 all [installed]
firefox-esr-l10n-en-gb/stable-security,proposed-updates,now 115.15.0esr-1~deb12u1 all [installed]
firefox-esr/stable-security,proposed-updates,now 115.15.0esr-1~deb12u1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
I'm not sure how to interpret two identical lines. Do they appear right
next to each other in the output of apt list --installed?
Hello.Looks like this site is blocked. Tested with Firefox-esr, Opera, Chromium and Konqueror - all same results (Access denied).
https://www.bobevans.com/
Am Freitag, 4. Oktober 2024, 14:24:47 CEST schrieb Mindaugas:
Hello.
https://www.bobevans.com/Looks like this site is blocked. Tested with Firefox-esr, Opera,
Chromium and Konqueror - all same results (Access denied).
I am using OpenDNS as DNS.
On 4 Oct 2024 00:04 -0400, from eben@gmx.us:
eben@cerberus:~$ apt list --installed | grep firef
WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts.
firefox-esr/stable-security,proposed-updates,now 115.15.0esr-1~deb12u1 amd64 [installed]
This is what I got doing the apt:
firefox-esr-l10n-en-ca/stable-security,proposed-updates,now 115.15.0esr-1~deb12u1 all [installed]
firefox-esr-l10n-en-gb/stable-security,proposed-updates,now 115.15.0esr-1~deb12u1 all [installed]
firefox-esr/stable-security,proposed-updates,now 115.15.0esr-1~deb12u1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
I'm not sure how to interpret two identical lines. Do they appear right
next to each other in the output of apt list --installed?
I do not see any identical lines. (Reflowed above to undo the effects
of original post word wrapping.) There's firefox-esr-l10n-en-{ca,gb}
and the main firefox-esr package.
The same refusal, current Opera and FF 115.15.0esr 64bit. My DNS serverhttps://www.bobevans.com/
uses root hints, so not DNS. It's using a security company for
filtering, I'd guess to US customers only. But IP addresses now have
only a tenuous link to location...
On Fri, 4 Oct 2024, Joe wrote:
The same refusal, current Opera and FF 115.15.0esr 64bit. My DNS server uses root hints, so not DNS. It's using a security company forhttps://www.bobevans.com/
filtering, I'd guess to US customers only. But IP addresses now have
only a tenuous link to location...
Blocked for me using lynx via Starlink:
IFRAME: /_Incapsula_Resource?CWUDNSAI=23&xinfo=...
Request unsuccessful. Incapsula incident ID:
250000230469876233-227554157701760496
Bob Evans use Incapsula to prevent scraping. Probably a waste of money. Scrapers will scrape and real customers are driven away.
The same refusal, current Opera and FF 115.15.0esr 64bit. My DNS
server uses root hints, so not DNS. It's using a security company for filtering, I'd guess to US customers only. But IP addresses now have
only a tenuous link to location...
Am Freitag, 4. Oktober 2024, 14:24:47 CEST schrieb Mindaugas:
Hello.Looks like this site is blocked. Tested with Firefox-esr, Opera, Chromium and Konqueror - all same results (Access denied).
https://www.bobevans.com/
I am using OpenDNS as DNS.
On Fri, Oct 04, 2024 at 15:24:11 +0200, Roger Price wrote:
On Fri, 4 Oct 2024, Joe wrote:
Bob Evans use Incapsula to prevent scraping. Probably a waste of money.https://www.bobevans.com/
Scrapers will scrape and real customers are driven away.
As a counter data point, that web site loads for me in Google Chrome.
In Firefox with NoScript installed, I get "We're sorry but BobEvans.com doesn't work properly without JavaScript enabled. Please enable it
to continue."
I'm in the United States, so if there's blocking it might be geo-IP
based.
On Fri, 4 Oct 2024, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Fri, Oct 04, 2024 at 15:24:11 +0200, Roger Price wrote:
On Fri, 4 Oct 2024, Joe wrote:
Bob Evans use Incapsula to prevent scraping. Probably a waste ofhttps://www.bobevans.com/
money. Scrapers will scrape and real customers are driven away.
As a counter data point, that web site loads for me in Google
Chrome. In Firefox with NoScript installed, I get "We're sorry but BobEvans.com doesn't work properly without JavaScript enabled.
Please enable it to continue."
I'm in the United States, so if there's blocking it might be geo-IP
based.
An Incapsula competitor, ScrapFly, explains why they think the
blocking is primarily Javascript based: https://scrapfly.io/blog/how-to-avoid-web-scraping-blocking-javascript/
An Incapsula competitor, ScrapFly, explains why they think the
blocking is primarily Javascript based:
https://scrapfly.io/blog/how-to-avoid-web-scraping-blocking-javascript/
"..javascript is by far the most powerful tool because it allows
arbitrary code execution on the client machine."
The work of the Devil.
I had the site not work in FF with No-Script nor in Opera with no restrictions. But we are not getting to the web page at all, so
JavaScript is not involved. It's a filtering proxy, and We Are Not
Welcome. Not, as far as I can see, that anyone outside the US has any
use for the site.
On 10/4/24 08:39, Hans wrote:
Am Freitag, 4. Oktober 2024, 14:24:47 CEST schrieb Mindaugas:
Hello.
https://www.bobevans.com/Looks like this site is blocked. Tested with Firefox-esr, Opera, Chromium and
Konqueror - all same results (Access denied).
I am using OpenDNS as DNS.
Not blocked for everyone. It loads fine here in both Firefox 115.15.0esr and Chromium 129.0.6668.70. Requires JS though.
--
The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers.
-- Dick the Butcher, Henry VI, Part 2, act IV, scene 2, line 75
On Fri, Oct 04, 2024 at 10:16:06AM -0400, eben@gmx.us wrote:
On 10/4/24 08:39, Hans wrote:
Am Freitag, 4. Oktober 2024, 14:24:47 CEST schrieb Mindaugas:
Hello.
https://www.bobevans.com/Looks like this site is blocked. Tested with Firefox-esr, Opera,
Chromium and Konqueror - all same results (Access denied).
I am using OpenDNS as DNS.
Not blocked for everyone. It loads fine here in both Firefox
115.15.0esr and Chromium 129.0.6668.70. Requires JS though.
--
The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers.
-- Dick the Butcher, Henry VI, Part 2, act IV, scene
2, line 75
Blocked for me - and the page shows Powered by imperva
Access denied
Error 15
bobevans.com
2024-10-04 16:57:58 UTC
What happened?
This request was blocked by our security service
Your IP: 77.XXX.XXX.XXX
Proxy IP: 45.223.153.153 (ID 10868-100)
Incident ID: 868000100072360674-108126622072439429
[My IP blocked out for the purposes of the copy by XXX]
Hope this helps,
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