Seems to me we should not have to print a 90 page document to get the
one page/paragraph of interest. What do folks use now?

Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
- Louis D. Brandeis

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On Sun 27 Oct 2024 at 14:07:25 (-0400), gene heskett wrote:

Seems to me we should not have to print a 90 page document to get the
one page/paragraph of interest. What do folks use now?

pdftk, now pdftk-java

Cheers,
David.

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On Mon, Oct 28, 2024 at 02:27:34AM +0800, jeremy ardley wrote:

On 28/10/24 02:07, gene heskett wrote:

Seems to me we should not have to print a 90 page document to get the
one page/paragraph of interest. What do folks use now?

Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.

Quite often in a web browser you can select the text and right click and print selection.

If you are in a gui console you can select some text and copy and paste into a gui text editor and print that.

If you are only in a console with no gui you will have problems

Or you will have pdfseparate (1).

It's not all barbarian country in the console :-)

Cheers
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Seems to me we should not have to print a 90 page document to get the one page/paragraph of interest.

I agree, but I wonder why you think it needs to be stated.
What tool are you using and what part of it makes you think it really
wants you to print all 90 pages of a document?

FWIW, nowadays I basically never print to paper from anything else than
my favorite PDF viewer (which does offer me to print any selected
subset of the pages). For everything else, I "print to PDF" (and then
use my PDF viewer to print to paper the parts I need, if that's
what I want).


Stefan

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On Sun 27 Oct 2024 at 15:24:52 (-0400), Stefan Monnier wrote:

Seems to me we should not have to print a 90 page document to get the one page/paragraph of interest.

I agree, but I wonder why you think it needs to be stated.
What tool are you using and what part of it makes you think it really
wants you to print all 90 pages of a document?

FWIW, nowadays I basically never print to paper from anything else than
my favorite PDF viewer (which does offer me to print any selected
subset of the pages). For everything else, I "print to PDF" (and then
use my PDF viewer to print to paper the parts I need, if that's
what I want).

What I would miss if I had only that for PDFs:

. a record of how I made the printout,

. a carbon copy of the document to file (if I do print,
it's generally to send it somewhere),

. the ability to do this manually or with scripts,

. handling encryption,

. most importantly, the ability to assemble a document
from multiple parts of various sources.

Cheers,
David.

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Hi Gene,

On Sun, Oct 27, 2024 at 02:07:25PM -0400, gene heskett wrote:

Seems to me we should not have to print a 90 page document to get the one page/paragraph of interest. What do folks use now?

What procedure / software do you use right now to solve this problem for
really big plain text (.txt) files? Will that also work for such
Markdown (.md) files?

Thanks,
Andy

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On 10/27/24 14:28, jeremy ardley wrote:

On 28/10/24 02:07, gene heskett wrote:

Seems to me we should not have to print a 90 page document to get the
one page/paragraph of interest. What do folks use now?

Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.

Quite often in a web browser you can select the text and right click and print selection.

If you are in a gui console you can select some text and copy and paste
into a gui text editor and print that.

If you are only in a console with no gui you will have problems

.

I've got a gui on both ends of the net but cups on armbian can't see the printers shared by debian/bookworm. So we fix that first. If we can...

Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
- Louis D. Brandeis

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On 10/27/24 14:28, David Wright wrote:

On Sun 27 Oct 2024 at 14:07:25 (-0400), gene heskett wrote:

Seems to me we should not have to print a 90 page document to get the
one page/paragraph of interest. What do folks use now?

pdftk, now pdftk-java

installed it, but the assumption that its a pdf is wrong, its an .md
file. Does not appear to have page makers, but I can get line numbers
from geany, but its an arm64 and cups can't print to my shared printers
so that has to be fixed first. The rest can be had from the correct incantations of "tail fnnn file | head fnn >newfile.
So first, how do I fix cups?

Cheers,
David.

.

Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
- Louis D. Brandeis

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On Sun 27 Oct 2024 at 22:44:58 (-0500), David Wright wrote:

On Sun 27 Oct 2024 at 15:24:52 (-0400), Stefan Monnier wrote:

Seems to me we should not have to print a 90 page document to get the one page/paragraph of interest.

I agree, but I wonder why you think it needs to be stated.
What tool are you using and what part of it makes you think it really
wants you to print all 90 pages of a document?

FWIW, nowadays I basically never print to paper from anything else than
my favorite PDF viewer (which does offer me to print any selected
subset of the pages). For everything else, I "print to PDF" (and then
use my PDF viewer to print to paper the parts I need, if that's
what I want).

What I would miss if I had only that for PDFs:

. a record of how I made the printout,

. a carbon copy of the document to file (if I do print,
it's generally to send it somewhere),

. the ability to do this manually or with scripts,

. handling encryption,

. most importantly, the ability to assemble a document
from multiple parts of various sources.

Thanks to Stefan for pointing out a lack of context
in my post. It's meant to relate to my earlier post
suggesting pdftk, and points out that selection of
pages is the least that pdftk can do. The list above
is just the functions I use regularly.

So, for example, at tax time each year, I run a number of
scripts that automatically collate the appropriate pages
from the mountain of monthly/quarterly documents received
or downloaded over the year.

Of course, much of this thread is moot if Gene is concerned
only with printing parts of a text file, rather than sections
of the processed marked-up document.

Cheers,
David.

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On Sun, Oct 27, 2024 at 02:07:25PM -0400, gene heskett wrote:

Seems to me we should not have to print a 90 page document to get the one page/paragraph of interest. What do folks use now?

Hey Gene, I'm assuming that your .md file is in markdown format. If so,
you have a few choices. There's nothing about markdown that forces
formatting by page. So for example, you could render markdown as HTML
using pandoc, then use something like xmlstarlet to select just the
parts of the HTML you want. Then, you can load that in your browser and
print.

If you really want to format markdown in pages, you can use pandoc to
render markdown as PDF, then use a PDF reader to print the pages you want.

Hope this helps,

Ryan

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ke 20.11.2024 klo 3.12 Ryan Nowakowski (tubaman@fattuba.com) kirjoitti:

On Sun, Oct 27, 2024 at 02:07:25PM -0400, gene heskett wrote:

Seems to me we should not have to print a 90 page document to get the one page/paragraph of interest. What do folks use now?

Hey Gene, I'm assuming that your .md file is in markdown format. If so,
you have a few choices. There's nothing about markdown that forces formatting by page. So for example, you could render markdown as HTML
using pandoc, then use something like xmlstarlet to select just the
parts of the HTML you want. Then, you can load that in your browser and print.

If you really want to format markdown in pages, you can use pandoc to
render markdown as PDF, then use a PDF reader to print the pages you want.

Hope this helps,

Ryan

okular can also display documents in markdown format and some other formats
in addition to PDF.

<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">ke 20.11.2024 klo 3.12 Ryan Nowakowski (<a href="mailto:tubaman@fattuba.com">tubaman@fattuba.com</a>) kirjoitti:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_
quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On Sun, Oct 27, 2024 at 02:07:25PM -0400, gene heskett wrote:<br>
&gt; Seems to me we should not have to print a 90 page document to get the one<br>
&gt; page/paragraph of interest. What do folks use now?<br>

Hey Gene, I&#39;m assuming that your .md file is in markdown format. If so,<br> you have a few choices.  There&#39;s nothing about markdown that forces<br> formatting by page.  So for example, you could render markdown as HTML<br> using pandoc, then use something like xmlstarlet to select just the<br>
parts of the HTML you want.  Then, you can load that in your browser and<br> print.<br>

If you really want to format markdown in pages, you can use pandoc to<br> render markdown as PDF, then use a PDF reader to print the pages you want.<br>

Hope this helps,<br>

Ryan<br>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>okular can also display documents in markdown format and some other formats in addition to PDF.</div><div> </div></div></div>

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On 11/26/24 14:52, Roland Mueller wrote:

ke 20.11.2024 klo 3.12 Ryan Nowakowski (tubaman@fattuba.com <mailto:tubaman@fattuba.com>) kirjoitti:

On Sun, Oct 27, 2024 at 02:07:25PM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> Seems to me we should not have to print a 90 page document to get
the one
> page/paragraph of interest. What do folks use now?

Hey Gene, I'm assuming that your .md file is in markdown format. If so,
you have a few choices.  There's nothing about markdown that forces
formatting by page.  So for example, you could render markdown as HTML
using pandoc, then use something like xmlstarlet to select just the
parts of the HTML you want.  Then, you can load that in your browser and
print.

If you really want to format markdown in pages, you can use pandoc to
render markdown as PDF, then use a PDF reader to print the pages you
want.

Hope this helps,

Ryan

Yes it will help, a lot. I had never heard of pandoc before. Thank you.

okular can also display documents in markdown format and some other
formats in addition to PDF.

That I have, again useful info. Thank you.

Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
- Louis D. Brandeis

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