Rh KramerNo, you aren't, and you know you aren't. So drop the fake apology. Over
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I see an attractive deal on a laptop that is shipped with Windows 11 in S-mode
(link below).
I assume (I know), but am not sure that I will be able to load Linux on that laptop -- can anyone tell me for sure?
PS: I'd also want to expand the RAM and I have to find out if I can do that.
cc'ing me would be helpful, I subscribe to the list but can't keep up with reading it anymore -- I will try to pay attention for the next week or so for any responses.
* [[https://www.newegg.com/asus-l510ka-nb21-15-6-intel-pentium-silver- n6000-4gb-intel-uhd-graphics-64-gb/p/N82E16834236521?Item=N82E16834236521] [ASUS 15.6" Vivobook Go Laptop, FHD, Intel Pentium N6000 Quad Core, 4GB RAM, 64GB SSD, Windows 11 in S Mode, Star Black, L510KA-NB21]]
Thank you!
Rh Kramer
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64GB SSD
Ahh, with respect to RAM, there is an empty SODIMM slot and at least one site
has installed an 8 GB stick there for a total of 12 GB -- I'm not sure what the maximum additional RAM could be. (The factory installed 4 GB is soldered
in).
From my research, the memory is not upgradeable. There was no "empty SODIMM slot"? Though there could be an M.2 slot for adding an extra drive. My challenge with such videos on YouTube is many variations of models, and whether the one I buy is exactlythe same model as the one I am watching. After purchase the model can be slightly different from the ones in video.
On Saturday, November 23, 2024 03:38:56 PM rhkramer@gmail.com wrote:
PS: I'd also want to expand the RAM and I have to find out if I can do that.
* [[https://www.newegg.com/asus-l510ka-nb21-15-6-intel-pentium-silver- n6000-4gb-intel-uhd-graphics-64-gb/p/N82E16834236521?Item=N82E16834236521] [ASUS 15.6" Vivobook Go Laptop, FHD, Intel Pentium N6000 Quad Core, 4GB RAM, 64GB SSD, Windows 11 in S Mode, Star Black, L510KA-NB21]]
On Sunday, 24-11-2024 at 07:44 rhkramer@gmail.com wrote:the same model as the one I am watching. After purchase the model can be slightly different from the ones in video.
Ahh, with respect to RAM, there is an empty SODIMM slot and at least one site
has installed an 8 GB stick there for a total of 12 GB -- I'm not sure what
the maximum additional RAM could be. (The factory installed 4 GB is soldered
in).
Can you please forward the link that suggests you can upgrade memory?
From my research, the memory is not upgradeable. There was no "empty SODIMM slot"? Though there could be an M.2 slot for adding an extra drive. My challenge with such videos on YouTube is many variations of models, and whether the one I buy is exactly
Maybe I found a different model?
The below videos suggest the eMMC is soldered in, but there is an unused M.2 slot into which you can install a M.2 NVMe drive.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMpfVX3jaBU
Can I upgrade my Asus Vivobook E510 SSD or RAM?
[RAM soldered, not able to upgrade]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxU6hz0BmfQ
ASUS laptop E510 - DISASSEMBLY and UPGRADE OPTIONS
[You can't upgrade/expand the memory. (RAM)]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xHWenMLj_E
ASUS Vivobook Go 15 L510 Laptop
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpkT8JwgnAI
How to UPGRADE eMMC Storage With M.2 NVMe SSD On ASUS Laptop!
F2 to get into BIOS
I hope this helps.
George.
On Saturday, November 23, 2024 03:38:56 PM rhkramer@gmail.com wrote:
PS: I'd also want to expand the RAM and I have to find out if I can do that.
* [[https://www.newegg.com/asus-l510ka-nb21-15-6-intel-pentium-silver- n6000-4gb-intel-uhd-graphics-64-gb/p/N82E16834236521?Item=N82E16834236521]
[ASUS 15.6" Vivobook Go Laptop, FHD, Intel Pentium N6000 Quad Core, 4GB RAM, 64GB SSD, Windows 11 in S Mode, Star Black, L510KA-NB21]]
On Sat, Nov 23, 2024 at 03:38:56PM -0500, rhkramer@gmail.com wrote:
I see an attractive deal on a laptop that is shipped with Windows 11 in S-mode
I assume (I know), but am not sure that I will be able to load Linux on that
laptop -- can anyone tell me for sure?
PS: I'd also want to expand the RAM and I have to find out if I can do that.
cc'ing me would be helpful, I subscribe to the list but can't keep up with reading it anymore -- I will try to pay attention for the next week or so for
any responses.
These are very much like a Chromebook-style cheap machine. Windows 11 S mode is Windows 11 locked down to secure apps from the Microsoft Store.
Be _especially_ careful on the disk size: this may be a flash disk or whatever and not upgradeable. A bit small.
A great machine for a primary school student whose school runs Windows.
Not so great for real use in my biased opinion - I have had Debian
running in 4GB and 32G of flash disk but it was painfully slow.
Cheap machine at cheap price but your level of hardship may be commensurate.
Thank you!
You're welcome. All the very best, as ever,
Andy CaterForty, 40, lines deleted.
(amacater@debian.org)
Rh Kramer
| Sorry about the sig -- some people think it is too long -- it is my soapbox.
A person who writes a sig this long probably has issues and disrespects (and
offends) a large number of readers. ;-)
Way too kind.
Calling cheap asses cheap asses is IMNSHO better kindness for mankind.
I discovered some small laptops (10 inch and 7 inch), with an Intel N100 processor, up to 16 GB RAM and ump to 1 TB disk. But shipped with windows.
2 questions:
1. Does one have any experience, if the N100 cpu is usable for fluently work? These processors are also built in small mini computers.
2., Can debian installed on these laptops or are theire BIOSes mostly dongled like on Microsoft Surface tablets and have to be cracked?
However, the question is: Will the N100 be fast enough for fluently working with it? (My comparision is a Fujitsu Lifebook with 8GB and an I5 cpu).
a CPU that is less than the performance of an i5.
Short answer: Not usable.
Long answer:Does this mean, in real this is not an Intel CPU? I saw these notebooks from several different sellers, and all are telling the same. Do they all lie? (Well
As a rule of thumb, never trust AliExpress product descriptions.
You have to always look up _specifications_ on Intel official website or websites of other vendors.Seller claims this device has N100 CPU [1],
but in Characteristics section it is actually J4115 [2].
So which is it?Yes, but this would be ok for me. My old fellow, an Asus EEEPC 1008 has got 1024x600 which was ok for me. But now over the years, it got rather slow and it is 32-bit, too. So I am looking for a successor. For basic network analysis I could use a tablet (which I am also using) with "termux" and a bluetotth keyboard.
Display resolution 1280*800 means it couldn't be used comfortably by
today's UI standards and is not significantly better than screen of your smartphone.
Notice how none of the reviewers made a photo or screenshot of actual hardware specifications detected by OS. More reasons to not trust device descriptions or reviews.Yes, I see.
There is not a single actual photo of the product, in the description section, only 3D modeled edited pictures.
When order is disputed, AliExpress arbitration service will consider Characteristics as primary source for specifications, so it will be customer's fault in the end and refund could be denied.
In conclusion: It is a *very* overpriced toy, not a device you could accomplish any complex work.
If I was in the market for a new "work horse" laptop, I'd search for oneHmm, well, here in Germany is a very good reseller for "normal" notebooks. I can get a 12 inch Dell notebook with 8GB RAM and a 512GB drive for under 100 Bucks (about 99 €uro). This with 2 year guarantee. The notebook is of cource refurbished. I know this seller for many years and he can be trusted and has a well service. If I do not find a smaller notebook for about 300 €, I will buy
with at least 14" screen size, with display height resolution of 1080p
or more.
But let me ask you, do you complain to those that quote all or most of the previous posts in a thread when they have no relevant comment about most of what they've quoted?
Thanks to all who replied. With only 4 GB, I'm not interested in that laptop,
but I was maybe most concerned about S-mode (in Windows).
I assume that would not keep me from installing Linux, I mean, presumably I can still get into the BIOS (or the newer (to me) style of BIOS) and load Linux from a pendrive or such?
On Sat, Nov 23, 2024 at 03:38:56PM -0500, rhkramer@gmail.com wrote:
I see an attractive deal on a laptop that is shipped with Windows 11 in S-mode (link below).
a CPU that is less than the performance of an i5.
Side note: such a description is not very useful because a 10 year old
i7 can be significantly less powerful than a recent i3.
Stefan
I am frustrated that I cannot perceive any performance improvements in
CPUs since the 4th Gen i7s. This is likely due to the software I use
does not gain any perceptible improvement from running on
a faster CPU?
Hello Alexander,
thank you very much for your response.
Short answer: Not usable.
Hmm, that is a pity.
Long answer:
As a rule of thumb, never trust AliExpress product descriptions.
You have to always look up _specifications_ on Intel official website orDoes this mean, in real this is not an Intel CPU? I saw these notebooks from several different sellers, and all are telling the same. Do they all lie? (Well
websites of other vendors.Seller claims this device has N100 CPU [1],
but in Characteristics section it is actually J4115 [2].
it might be possible)
So which is it?Yes, but this would be ok for me. My old fellow, an Asus EEEPC 1008 has got 1024x600 which was ok for me. But now over the years, it got rather slow and it is 32-bit, too. So I am looking for a successor. For basic network analysis
Display resolution 1280*800 means it couldn't be used comfortably by
today's UI standards and is not significantly better than screen of your
smartphone.
I could use a tablet (which I am also using) with "termux" and a bluetotth keyboard.
But I would like to use an Inetl compatible cpu, as all my wanted stuff is running on this. And it shall be small. 13 inch and bigger I already own, so
these small things awoke my attention.
Notice how none of the reviewers made a photo or screenshot of actualYes, I see.
hardware specifications detected by OS. More reasons to not trust device
descriptions or reviews.
There is not a single actual photo of the product, in the description
section, only 3D modeled edited pictures.
When order is disputed, AliExpress arbitration service will consider
Characteristics as primary source for specifications, so it will be
customer's fault in the end and refund could be denied.
In conclusion: It is a *very* overpriced toy, not a device you could
accomplish any complex work.
Hmm, overpriced, you say. Do you mean, "overpriced" even when the the tellings
are true (CPU, RAM-size, hardrive-size and so on)?
If I was in the market for a new "work horse" laptop, I'd search for oneHmm, well, here in Germany is a very good reseller for "normal" notebooks. I can get a 12 inch Dell notebook with 8GB RAM and a 512GB drive for under 100 Bucks (about 99 €uro). This with 2 year guarantee. The notebook is of cource
with at least 14" screen size, with display height resolution of 1080p
or more.
refurbished. I know this seller for many years and he can be trusted and has a
well service. If I do not find a smaller notebook for about 300 €, I will buy
this one.
It is a pity, my hope was another statement than yours.
However, thank you very much for your help and the time you took! It helped a lot!
Best regards
Hans
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