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  • Re: where is mail.log and the changing Linux ecosystem

    From George at Clug@21:1/5 to tomas@tuxteam.de on Sun Dec 1 01:10:01 2024
    On Sunday, 01-12-2024 at 06:12 tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
    On Sat, Nov 30, 2024 at 06:56:08PM +0000, Andy Smith wrote:
    Hello,

    On Sat, Nov 30, 2024 at 07:51:40PM +0100, Scott Andrews wrote:
    The version of systemd in trixie (and also in sid) is 257 according
    to packages.debian.org.

    I don't know whether that's the version trixie is going to use upon release, but if it is, then your v258 cutoff won't be relevant until the *next* release after trixie.

    It is the future.

    But is it Web Scale?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2F-DItXtZs

    I want to thank everyone for chatting about this systemd and init.

    https://itsfoss.com/systemd-init/

    And thanks for the cute video. I enjoyed watching and then reading through the comments, followed by some research on the topic.

    I have a hard enough time getting to know Linux, but the rate of change that is happening not only causes me confusion about what is current, but also adds the burden of relearning, never knowing what I have learned is still valid or not.

    Some people like crossword puzzles or jigsaw puzzles to 'keep their brain alive and working', for me, following the ever changing architecture of Linux is far more challenging and "fun?".

    Doing some research of Systemd/Journald, I think I saw comments saying that /etc/hosts and /etc/network/interfaces will be replaced and deprecated some time in the coming future. Can anyone make comment if this is true?

    Seems that there are a few more changes coming to Linux too.

    https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/deprecated-linux-command-replacements

    Coming from the Windows ecosystem to Linux, one that I found attractive was the philosophy of the Unix operating system, but progress seems to differ in its ideas.
    "Write programs that do one thing and do it well. Write programs to work together. Write programs to handle text streams because that is a universal interface."

    Is there a "list of coming major design changing in Linux" somewhere on the Internet? Could make my life easier if there was.

    George




    No, "web scale" would be Chrome ignoring the hosts setting and phoning
    home for DNS. Don't ask me how I know.

    Cheers
    --
    t


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  • From Greg Wooledge@21:1/5 to George at Clug on Sun Dec 1 01:20:01 2024
    On Sun, Dec 01, 2024 at 11:02:07 +1100, George at Clug wrote:
    Is there a "list of coming major design changing in Linux" somewhere on the Internet? Could make my life easier if there was.

    I would just like to point out that there isn't a single "Linux
    ecosystem". There are many Linux-based distributions, and each one
    works differently.

    Changes that Red Hat plans to introduce to its distribution are not
    necessarily going to be embraced by other distributions, including
    Debian.

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  • From George at Clug@21:1/5 to All on Sun Dec 1 01:30:02 2024
    On Sunday, 01-12-2024 at 11:09 Greg Wooledge wrote:
    On Sun, Dec 01, 2024 at 11:02:07 +1100, George at Clug wrote:
    Is there a "list of coming major design changing in Linux" somewhere on the Internet? Could make my life easier if there was.

    I would just like to point out that there isn't a single "Linux
    ecosystem". There are many Linux-based distributions, and each one
    works differently.

    A fair comment. But how many Linux distributions won't end up implementing Systemd, wayland, nftables, etc.



    Changes that Red Hat plans to introduce to its distribution are not necessarily going to be embraced by other distributions, including
    Debian.


    True, though Red Hat has and will play a big part in guiding Linux's future. Though just one of many who do.



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  • From tomas@tuxteam.de@21:1/5 to Greg Wooledge on Sun Dec 1 07:20:02 2024
    On Sat, Nov 30, 2024 at 07:09:54PM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote:
    On Sun, Dec 01, 2024 at 11:02:07 +1100, George at Clug wrote:
    Is there a "list of coming major design changing in Linux" somewhere on the Internet? Could make my life easier if there was.

    I would just like to point out that there isn't a single "Linux
    ecosystem". There are many Linux-based distributions, and each one
    works differently.

    It's kind of an "ecosystem of ecosystems" like the Internet is kind
    of a "net of nets". So let's call it an... Interecosystem?

    OK, OK, I'm going get some breakfast ;-)

    Cheers
    --
    t

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