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  • Re: how to determine if debian is intruded or compromised

    From Andy Smith@21:1/5 to hlyg on Mon Jan 27 04:10:02 2025
    Hi,

    On Mon, Jan 27, 2025 at 09:52:56AM +0800, hlyg wrote:
    i multi-boot with several disks, one of them running pirated Windows

    […]

    can malware or spyware in Windows intrude linux in other disks?

    It is not possible to safely run any operating system on the same
    machine where another operating system of unknown provenance has been
    run. The potential for compromise extends down as far as the machine's
    firmware and out to all attached devices.

    Pirated software routinely contains malware.

    Without a security boundary such as a hypervisor you have to trust all operating systems you run on any given piece of hardware.

    Thanks,
    Andy

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  • From Geert Stappers@21:1/5 to Andy Smith on Tue Jan 28 07:00:01 2025
    On Mon, Jan 27, 2025 at 03:06:57AM +0000, Andy Smith wrote:
    Hi,

    On Mon, Jan 27, 2025 at 09:52:56AM +0800, hlyg wrote:
    i multi-boot with several disks, one of them running pirated Windows

    […]


    [ ... ]

    Pirated software routinely contains malware.

    Microsoft software routinely contains malware as telemetry
    and other nonsense.


    Groeten
    Geert Stappers
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  • From tomas@tuxteam.de@21:1/5 to Geert Stappers on Tue Jan 28 08:30:01 2025
    On Tue, Jan 28, 2025 at 06:51:43AM +0100, Geert Stappers wrote:
    On Mon, Jan 27, 2025 at 03:06:57AM +0000, Andy Smith wrote:
    Hi,

    On Mon, Jan 27, 2025 at 09:52:56AM +0800, hlyg wrote:
    i multi-boot with several disks, one of them running pirated Windows

    […]


    [ ... ]

    Pirated software routinely contains malware.

    Microsoft software routinely contains malware as telemetry
    and other nonsense.

    Microsoft /is/ the malware.

    Cheers
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  • From gene heskett@21:1/5 to tomas@tuxteam.de on Tue Jan 28 09:50:01 2025
    On 1/28/25 02:27, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
    On Tue, Jan 28, 2025 at 06:51:43AM +0100, Geert Stappers wrote:
    On Mon, Jan 27, 2025 at 03:06:57AM +0000, Andy Smith wrote:
    Hi,

    On Mon, Jan 27, 2025 at 09:52:56AM +0800, hlyg wrote:
    i multi-boot with several disks, one of them running pirated Windows
    […]

    [ ... ]

    Pirated software routinely contains malware.
    Microsoft software routinely contains malware as telemetry
    and other nonsense.
    Microsoft /is/ the malware.
    True Tomas, but you are preaching to the choir here.

    Cheers

    Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
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  • From Anssi Saari@21:1/5 to hlyg on Tue Jan 28 11:00:02 2025
    hlyg <hlyg2023@outlook.com> writes:

    i multi-boot with several disks, one of them running pirated Windows

    i have no confidence in pirated Windows, can malware or spyware in
    Windows intrude linux in other disks?  how to determine if debian has
    been intruded or compromised?

    I at least have never heard of Windows malware affecting Linux on the
    same computer but it's possible of course. Also, as I understand it,
    Windows 10 lets you run an unlicensed copy indefinitely with only minor restrictions so not much point in going with a pirated copy these days.

    I use tiger in Debian to check things, it runs other tools like Tripwire
    which checks files on system have not been changed. But Tripwire needs
    to be installed on a known clean system to be able to start from an
    untampered state.

    or shall i install linux on removable device(usb stick)?

    I guess that would help. Windows can't infect Linux if it isn't plugged
    in. Or you could encrypt your Linux partitions.

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