On Thu, Jan 30, 2025 at 04:14:00PM +0000, Michael wrote:

Thanks very much for your help and suggestions.

I am running Debian 12 on a desktop.

My aim is to set up and use a TOTP authenticator app called Ente Auth.

As far as I can see, this is a third party package from https://github.com/ente-io/ente/releases?q=tag%3Aauth-v4

I ran, as root :-

dpkg -i ente-auth-v4.2.8-x86_64.deb

to create an executable file enteauth, which runs the Ente Auth app.

Ente Auth appear to have a Github repository - see below for the
download link.

The app worked okay for a few days. I then closed everything down to do my monthly Debian update.

When I restarted the app I got a window saying an update was available for Ente Auth.

So I downloaded the new .deb file and installed it (again using root) :-

dpkg -i ente-auth-v4.3.1-x86_64.deb

https://github.com/ente-io/ente/releases/download/auth-v4.3.2/ente-auth-v4.3.2-x86_64.deb

Would download the latest. It looks as if they're updating fairly regularly. Unfortunately, they haven't gone the extra mile and provided a nice
repository and a /etc/apt/sources.list.d file/ for an automatic update experience.

This should overwrite the previous executable enteauth.

Without knowing what their package actually does and how good they are
at sorting out their own files - that *should* but we don't know whether
it does / whether their package install/removal script cleans up after itself properly or at all.

I started Ente Auth again, but the app still showed the update window. I
then found a lot of error messages coming from the Ente Auth app,
indicating a bug in the new executable.

Unfortunately I did not think to run any Debian package commands to check
on the status of the v4.2.8 or v4.3.1 files.

You could try apt-cache show ente-auth*

That's a shame - maybe try to uninstall using your command below or

apt remove ente-auth-v4.2.8 ; apt purge ente-auth-v4.2.8

My latest thought is to uninstall the v4.2.8 data by running as root :-

dpkg --purge ente-auth-v4.2.8-x86_64.deb

and then reinstall the v4.2.8 deb file by again running as root :-

dpkg -i ente-auth-v4.2.8-x86_64.deb

to recreate the executable enteauth for v4.2.8

You could try downloading the up to date 4.3.2 package by using the link
above.

So I am seeking help as to whether performing the above purge and reinstall will do what I want to achieve.

It may: it may not. I suspect that the person(s) behind ente-auth may be
more used to Fedora/Red Hat - a Debian package would be labelled as amd64.deb

Good luck with it all,

Andy Cater
(amacater@debian.org)

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On Thu, Jan 30, 2025 at 04:51:18PM +0000, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:

On Thu, Jan 30, 2025 at 04:14:00PM +0000, Michael wrote:

Thanks very much for your help and suggestions.

I am running Debian 12 on a desktop.

My aim is to set up and use a TOTP authenticator app called Ente Auth.

apt search totp

As far as I can see, this is a third party package from https://github.com/ente-io/ente/releases?q=tag%3Aauth-v4

In other words: Way below the quality standard of Debian

I ran, as root :-

dpkg -i ente-auth-v4.2.8-x86_64.deb

to create an executable file enteauth, which runs the Ente Auth app.

Ente Auth appear to have a Github repository - see below for the
download link.

The app worked okay for a few days. I then closed everything down to do my monthly Debian update.

When I restarted the app I got a window saying an update was available for Ente Auth.

So I downloaded the new .deb file and installed it (again using root) :-

dpkg -i ente-auth-v4.3.1-x86_64.deb

https://github.com/ente-io/ente/releases/download/auth-v4.3.2/ente-auth-v4.3.2-x86_64.deb

Would download the latest. It looks as if they're updating fairly regularly. Unfortunately, they haven't gone the extra mile and provided a nice repository and a /etc/apt/sources.list.d file/ for an automatic update experience.

This should overwrite the previous executable enteauth.

Without knowing what their package actually does and how good they are
at sorting out their own files - that *should* but we don't know whether
it does / whether their package install/removal script cleans up after itself properly or at all.

Just visit https://xyproblem.info

I started Ente Auth again, but the app still showed the update window. I then found a lot of error messages coming from the Ente Auth app, indicating a bug in the new executable.

Unfortunately I did not think to run any Debian package commands to check on the status of the v4.2.8 or v4.3.1 files.

You could try apt-cache show ente-auth*

That's a shame - maybe try to uninstall using your command below or

apt remove ente-auth-v4.2.8 ; apt purge ente-auth-v4.2.8

My latest thought is to uninstall the v4.2.8 data by running as root :-

dpkg --purge ente-auth-v4.2.8-x86_64.deb

and then reinstall the v4.2.8 deb file by again running as root :-

dpkg -i ente-auth-v4.2.8-x86_64.deb

to recreate the executable enteauth for v4.2.8

You could try downloading the up to date 4.3.2 package by using the link above.

So I am seeking help as to whether performing the above purge and reinstall will do what I want to achieve.

It may: it may not. I suspect that the person(s) behind ente-auth may be
more used to Fedora/Red Hat - a Debian package would be labelled as amd64.deb

Good luck with it all,

Luck will not solve XYproblems.

What I see as solutions for this for this mailinglist, d-user@ldo:

* Original Poster experiments with TOTP software that **is in** Debian.
* `ente-auth` **gets in** Debian.
* Explain that "the original problem" is realy a corner case for this ML
* Pointer to https://catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html (despite
broken HTTPS certificate)
* Switch to next post

Andy Cater
(amacater@debian.org)

Groeten
Geert Stappers
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