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    From Richard Owlett@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 26 17:00:01 2025
    I'm communicating with a state level peer-to-peer support group.
    The national organization has a peer-to-peer "mailing list" built around webmail as a complement/alternative to their sponsored social media
    groups. I find the web based system unusable.

    I'm so old I used an acoustic coupler when connecting to an RBBS.
    How do I clearly ask the state rep if there is a traditional mailing
    list similar to debian-user.

    TIA

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  • From Roberto =?iso-8859-1?Q?C=2E_S=E1nch@21:1/5 to Richard Owlett on Wed Feb 26 17:10:02 2025
    On Wed, Feb 26, 2025 at 09:59:01AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
    I'm communicating with a state level peer-to-peer support group.
    The national organization has a peer-to-peer "mailing list" built around webmail as a complement/alternative to their sponsored social media groups.
    I find the web based system unusable.

    I'm so old I used an acoustic coupler when connecting to an RBBS.
    How do I clearly ask the state rep if there is a traditional mailing list similar to debian-user.

    The term which people generally associated with this sort of
    communication channel would probably be something like "email listserv"
    (or possibly just "listserv"). I think it was based on a commercial
    email list management software (similar to GNU Mailman).

    Regards,

    -Roberto

    --
    Roberto C. Sánchez

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  • From Nate Bargmann@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 26 18:10:01 2025
    * On 2025 26 Feb 10:03 -0600, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
    On Wed, Feb 26, 2025 at 09:59:01AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
    I'm communicating with a state level peer-to-peer support group.
    The national organization has a peer-to-peer "mailing list" built around webmail as a complement/alternative to their sponsored social media groups. I find the web based system unusable.

    I'm so old I used an acoustic coupler when connecting to an RBBS.
    How do I clearly ask the state rep if there is a traditional mailing list similar to debian-user.

    The term which people generally associated with this sort of
    communication channel would probably be something like "email listserv"
    (or possibly just "listserv"). I think it was based on a commercial
    email list management software (similar to GNU Mailman).

    Way back when dinosaurs trod the internets, 'majordomo' was a common
    email list daemon. I can't recall the last time I dealt with one of
    those.

    Richard, if your target is an amateur radio operator, then the preferred terminology is 'email reflector'. I've not seen that term used for a
    mailing list by any other subset of Internet users.

    - Nate

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  • From Dan Purgert@21:1/5 to Richard Owlett on Wed Feb 26 19:30:01 2025
    On Feb 26, 2025, Richard Owlett wrote:
    I'm communicating with a state level peer-to-peer support group.
    The national organization has a peer-to-peer "mailing list" built around webmail as a complement/alternative to their sponsored social media groups.
    I find the web based system unusable.

    I've only seen the term "webmail" in reference to a mail client -- how
    does it come into play with accessing a specific mailing list?

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  • From Richard Owlett@21:1/5 to Dan Purgert on Wed Feb 26 20:20:01 2025
    On 2/26/25 12:20 PM, Dan Purgert wrote:
    On Feb 26, 2025, Richard Owlett wrote:
    I'm communicating with a state level peer-to-peer support group.
    The national organization has a peer-to-peer "mailing list" built around
    webmail as a complement/alternative to their sponsored social media groups. >> I find the web based system unusable.

    I've only seen the term "webmail" in reference to a mail client -- how
    does it come into play with accessing a specific mailing list?


    The system I'm trying to avoid assumes user access via a web browser.

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  • From Dan Purgert@21:1/5 to Richard Owlett on Wed Feb 26 22:40:01 2025
    On Feb 26, 2025, Richard Owlett wrote:
    On 2/26/25 12:20 PM, Dan Purgert wrote:
    On Feb 26, 2025, Richard Owlett wrote:
    I'm communicating with a state level peer-to-peer support group.
    The national organization has a peer-to-peer "mailing list" built around webmail as a complement/alternative to their sponsored social media groups.
    I find the web based system unusable.

    I've only seen the term "webmail" in reference to a mail client -- how
    does it come into play with accessing a specific mailing list?


    The system I'm trying to avoid assumes user access via a web browser.

    Who cares if your recipient uses webmail, or MS Outlook, or whatever?

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  • From Ralph Aichinger@21:1/5 to Richard Owlett on Thu Feb 27 07:50:01 2025
    On Wed, Feb 26, 2025 at 09:59:01AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
    I'm communicating with a state level peer-to-peer support group.
    The national organization has a peer-to-peer "mailing list" built around webmail as a complement/alternative to their sponsored social media groups.
    I find the web based system unusable.

    I'd suggest "discussion mailing list" as a description of lists like debian-user, because "mailing list" nowadays often just means some
    sort of tool to blast customers with advertising.

    /ralph

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  • From Richard Owlett@21:1/5 to Nate Bargmann on Wed Feb 26 20:10:03 2025
    On 2/26/25 11:01 AM, Nate Bargmann wrote:
    * On 2025 26 Feb 10:03 -0600, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
    On Wed, Feb 26, 2025 at 09:59:01AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
    I'm communicating with a state level peer-to-peer support group.
    The national organization has a peer-to-peer "mailing list" built around >>> webmail as a complement/alternative to their sponsored social media groups. >>> I find the web based system unusable.

    I'm so old I used an acoustic coupler when connecting to an RBBS.
    How do I clearly ask the state rep if there is a traditional mailing list >>> similar to debian-user.

    The term which people generally associated with this sort of
    communication channel would probably be something like "email listserv"
    (or possibly just "listserv"). I think it was based on a commercial
    email list management software (similar to GNU Mailman).

    Way back when dinosaurs trod the internets, 'majordomo' was a common
    email list daemon. I can't recall the last time I dealt with one of
    those.

    Richard, if your target is an amateur radio operator, then the preferred terminology is 'email reflector'. I've not seen that term used for a
    mailing list by any other subset of Internet users.

    No I'm going to almost other extreme. My audience likely has no tech experience.

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  • From Yassine Chaouche@21:1/5 to All on Thu Feb 27 11:10:01 2025
    Le 2/26/25 à 16:59, Richard Owlett a écrit :

    How do I clearly ask the state rep if there is a traditional mailing list similar to debian-user.

    TIA


    I always thought "mailing list" was exactly that,
    and cannot be confused with anything else.

    Best,

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    http://about.me/ychaouche
    Looking for side gigs.

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  • From Andy Smith@21:1/5 to Richard Owlett on Thu Feb 27 14:40:02 2025
    Hi,

    On Wed, Feb 26, 2025 at 09:59:01AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
    I'm communicating with a state level peer-to-peer support group.
    The national organization has a peer-to-peer "mailing list" built around webmail as a complement/alternative to their sponsored social media groups.
    I find the web based system unusable.

    If what they have can only be accessed by a web browser then what
    they have is in my opinion more correctly known as "a web forum".

    How do I clearly ask the state rep if there is a traditional mailing list

    "Can I participate in this group by email alone?"

    Their most likely answer: "no, what we have is what we have"

    I would certainly not try to come up with examples of other mailing
    lists, especially not ones like debian-user, because they most liekly
    won't know what you are referring to. They probably do know what email
    is, though.

    Thanks,
    Andy

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  • From John Hasler@21:1/5 to yassine on Thu Feb 27 14:40:02 2025
    yassine writes:
    I always thought "mailing list" was exactly that, and cannot be
    confused with anything else.

    It is also just a list of addresses to which stuff is to be mailed: announcements, advertising, etc. I think that to many people now that
    may be the only meaning of the phrase. To them "debian-user" is a
    "forum".
    --
    John Hasler
    john@sugarbit.com
    Elmwood, WI USA

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