Le 3/4/25 à 12:20, Leandro Noferini a écrit :

Ciao a tutt*,

is possible to set this mailling list in "nomail" mode to remain
subscribed but to not receive anymore messages?

Just create a mail filter that drops mail coming from debian-user@lists.debian.org,
but remember to remove it if you decide to send mail and read answers.

Best,



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Ciao a tutt*,

is possible to set this mailling list in "nomail" mode to remain
subscribed but to not receive anymore messages?

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Ciao
leandro
Ho tutto chiaro in testa ma non riesco a dirlo

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On Tue, Mar 04, 2025 at 12:20:03PM +0100, Leandro Noferini wrote:

Ciao a tutt*,

is possible to set this mailling list in "nomail" mode to remain
subscribed but to not receive anymore messages?

Asking for help to debian-user-request@lists.debian.org just lists
"help", "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" as possible commands.

So, no, it doesn't seem so.

Cheers
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t

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Response below/inline for email Leandro Noferini wrote:

(original email sent 4 Mar 2025 at 12:20)

Ciao a tutt*,

is possible to set this mailling list in "nomail" mode to remain
subscribed but to not receive anymore messages?

What are you trying to achieve? I just do not understand what it means
to be subscribed but not want to see any messages. Seems like a
contradiction?

Depending on what tools you use to read your emails, if they support
NNTP (newsgroups), you can access this "mailing list" via the gmane.linux.debian.user newsgroup. This is how I access the list.

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Hi,

On Tue, Mar 04, 2025 at 01:49:31PM +0000, Eric S Fraga wrote:

Response below/inline for email Leandro Noferini wrote:

(original email sent 4 Mar 2025 at 12:20)
is possible to set this mailling list in "nomail" mode to remain
subscribed but to not receive anymore messages?

What are you trying to achieve? I just do not understand what it means
to be subscribed but not want to see any messages. Seems like a contradiction?

It is typically more associated with Mailman where:

- there is more of a concept of a user account that you can log in to,
to set user preferences (as opposed to just a confirmation email with
Debian's lists)

- some lists have private archives which a known subscriber can log in
to and read even while set to not receive emails. Debian archives are
public.

- some lists reject posts from addresses that are not subscribed, so an
accepted method of posting from multiple addresses is to subscribe all
but one of them as "nomail". Debian lists allow posts from
non-subscribers.

So yes I agree with you that there seems little point in a "nomail"
setting for Debian's lists. Just unsubscribe when you don't want
emails.

Thanks,
Andy

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On 2025-03-04 at 08:49, Eric S Fraga wrote:

Response below/inline for email Leandro Noferini wrote:

(original email sent 4 Mar 2025 at 12:20)

Ciao a tutt*,

is possible to set this mailling list in "nomail" mode to remain
subscribed but to not receive anymore messages?

What are you trying to achieve? I just do not understand what it
means to be subscribed but not want to see any messages. Seems like
a contradiction?

The context I'm aware of in which such a thing would be useful is
mailing lists which condition some capability (posting, or access to
read the archives, or some other such thing) on being subscribed.

AFAIK, debian-user does not do this, so I don't see a reason for such a
feature to be useful here.

--
The Wanderer

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw


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On Tue, Mar 04, 2025 at 03:47:11PM +0100, Yassine Chaouche wrote:

[...]

So in order to do this you need to stay subscribed (to eventually send mail),

...as has been stated elsewhere, you don't need to be subscribed
to send mail to debian-user@

Which is pretty heroic these days, so I commend the Debian list
maintainers for doing the right thing.

Cheers
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t

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Le 3/4/25 à 14:49, Eric S Fraga a écrit :

What are you trying to achieve? I just do not understand what it means
to be subscribed but not want to see any messages. Seems like a contradiction?

Not necessarily, no.
I see this as a "forum" mode
where you only receive e-mail for discussions in which you are participating.

So in order to do this you need to stay subscribed (to eventually send mail), but you don't want to receive mail other than answers to your mail
or followups to a discussion you joined,
in which case you re-enable mail reception,
and delete mail that is not for you.


Best,

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The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> writes:

[...]

The context I'm aware of in which such a thing would be useful is
mailing lists which condition some capability (posting, or access to
read the archives, or some other such thing) on being subscribed.

AFAIK, debian-user does not do this, so I don't see a reason for such a feature to be useful here.

I was not aware that this list admits posting from non-subscribed
address, I will try!

Thanks!

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Ciao
leandro
Ho tutto chiaro in testa ma non riesco a dirlo

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Yassine Chaouche (HE12025-03-04):

I see this as a "forum" mode

It is not called “forum mode”, it is called “egoistic mode”, because the
poster expects other people will read their messages and provide help
but is not willing to do the same for others in return.

Regards,

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Le 3/4/25 à 16:06, Nicolas George a écrit :

Yassine Chaouche (HE12025-03-04):

I see this as a "forum" mode

It is not called “forum mode”, it is called “egoistic mode”, because the
poster expects other people will read their messages and provide help
but is not willing to do the same for others in return.

Which describes perfectly how fora work :)
I'd even extrapolate to other websites like the stackoverflow network,
where most people are here to get answers,
not to give answers.

Best,


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Le 3/4/25 à 16:46, Yassine Chaouche a écrit :

I'd even extrapolate to other websites like the stackoverflow network,
where most people are here to get answers,
not to give answers.

From my point of view and personal experience IRC is a little different.
Maybe because it's in realtime,
sometimes you participate in the discussion just because you are aware of the questions going on,
and if something piques your interest you participate.

On mailing lists, you only read the subjects and then decide whether you want to continue reading or not.
On IRC you are presented with all the messages,
which multiplies the chances of finding something interesting to talk about.

Best,


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(re-send email due to some spam rule)

Hellow Eric and there,

Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> writes:

Response below/inline for email Leandro Noferini wrote:

(original email sent 4 Mar 2025 at 12:20)

Ciao a tutt*,

is possible to set this mailling list in "nomail" mode to remain
subscribed but to not receive anymore messages?

What are you trying to achieve? I just do not understand what it means
to be subscribed but not want to see any messages. Seems like a contradiction?

Depending on what tools you use to read your emails, if they support
NNTP (newsgroups), you can access this "mailing list" via the gmane.linux.debian.user newsgroup. This is how I access the list.

Also i like gmane.linux.debian.user newsgroup. Even now, i am reading
mails on Gmane, thanks!


Sincerely, Gnus fan Byunghee

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Hellow Greg and there,

Me too. Works perfectly in slrn (except for the occasional encrypted
article that this software can't decrypt into decipherable).

Oh, that's really good news^^^
Thank you for introducing slrn.


Sincerely, Gnus fan Byunghee

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