• Does anyone use a USB 'endoscope' on Debian, which ones should work OK?

    From Chris Green@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 12 15:50:02 2025
    I want to buy one of the cheap (£2.50 to £15) USB endoscope cameras so
    I can poke around and see things under the engine of my little canal
    boat.

    A little bit of research suggests that most will probably work if they
    claim to work with a 'PC' as that implies they use UVC to communicate
    with a computer and there's UVC support in Debian (guvcview et al.)

    Can anyone confirm that I have this right? Does anyone here actually
    use one of these cameras with Debian? Actual recommendations of
    specific suppliers/cameras would be very welcome, eBay, Amazon,
    AliExpress, I'm not fussy! :-)

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    Chris Green
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  • From Dan Ritter@21:1/5 to Chris Green on Wed Mar 12 16:10:01 2025
    Chris Green wrote:
    I want to buy one of the cheap (£2.50 to £15) USB endoscope cameras so
    I can poke around and see things under the engine of my little canal
    boat.

    A little bit of research suggests that most will probably work if they
    claim to work with a 'PC' as that implies they use UVC to communicate
    with a computer and there's UVC support in Debian (guvcview et al.)

    Can anyone confirm that I have this right? Does anyone here actually
    use one of these cameras with Debian? Actual recommendations of
    specific suppliers/cameras would be very welcome, eBay, Amazon,
    AliExpress, I'm not fussy! :-)

    USB video control is very standardized; you can assume that any
    camera you pick up except the very top end will work
    immediately, and these are just cameras with fiber optic mounts.

    -dsr-

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  • From Charles Curley@21:1/5 to Chris Green on Thu Mar 13 03:50:01 2025
    On Wed, 12 Mar 2025 14:26:32 +0000
    Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:

    I want to buy one of the cheap (£2.50 to £15) USB endoscope cameras so
    I can poke around and see things under the engine of my little canal
    boat.

    A little bit of research suggests that most will probably work if they
    claim to work with a 'PC' as that implies they use UVC to communicate
    with a computer and there's UVC support in Debian (guvcview et al.)

    Can anyone confirm that I have this right? Does anyone here actually
    use one of these cameras with Debian? Actual recommendations of
    specific suppliers/cameras would be very welcome, eBay, Amazon,
    AliExpress, I'm not fussy! :-)

    In 2022 I ordered an endoscope from Newegg which failed to work with
    either Debian or Windows. I returned it without incident. It does not
    seem to be available from Newegg at the moment. Sorry I can't give you
    a more detailed description of it.

    --
    Does anybody read signatures any more?

    https://charlescurley.com
    https://charlescurley.com/blog/

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  • From gene heskett@21:1/5 to Charles Curley on Thu Mar 13 12:30:01 2025
    On 3/12/25 22:43, Charles Curley wrote:
    On Wed, 12 Mar 2025 14:26:32 +0000
    Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:

    I want to buy one of the cheap (£2.50 to £15) USB endoscope cameras so
    I can poke around and see things under the engine of my little canal
    boat.

    A little bit of research suggests that most will probably work if they
    claim to work with a 'PC' as that implies they use UVC to communicate
    with a computer and there's UVC support in Debian (guvcview et al.)

    Can anyone confirm that I have this right? Does anyone here actually
    use one of these cameras with Debian? Actual recommendations of
    specific suppliers/cameras would be very welcome, eBay, Amazon,
    AliExpress, I'm not fussy! :-)
    In 2022 I ordered an endoscope from Newegg which failed to work with
    either Debian or Windows. I returned it without incident. It does not
    seem to be available from Newegg at the moment. Sorry I can't give you
    I have used several, now older v4l devices as machine vision on milling machines but all are pretty ancient now & haven't  been used recently.
    ATM its is not working. May be unplugged. no. works with cheese, but not w/linuxcnc.
    a more detailed description of it.

    Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
    --
    "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
    soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
    -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
    If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
    - Louis D. Brandeis

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  • From Joe@21:1/5 to Charles Curley on Thu Mar 13 12:50:01 2025
    On Wed, 12 Mar 2025 20:43:12 -0600
    Charles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com> wrote:

    On Wed, 12 Mar 2025 14:26:32 +0000
    Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:

    I want to buy one of the cheap (£2.50 to £15) USB endoscope cameras
    so I can poke around and see things under the engine of my little
    canal boat.

    A little bit of research suggests that most will probably work if
    they claim to work with a 'PC' as that implies they use UVC to
    communicate with a computer and there's UVC support in Debian
    (guvcview et al.)

    Can anyone confirm that I have this right? Does anyone here
    actually use one of these cameras with Debian? Actual
    recommendations of specific suppliers/cameras would be very
    welcome, eBay, Amazon, AliExpress, I'm not fussy! :-)

    In 2022 I ordered an endoscope from Newegg which failed to work with
    either Debian or Windows. I returned it without incident. It does not
    seem to be available from Newegg at the moment. Sorry I can't give you
    a more detailed description of it.


    It's only a webcam, and random webcams usually work. I've recently
    bought a Bresser USB 'microscope', basically a webcam with a
    narrow-angle lens, and that's fine.

    I don't think it is possible to tell without actually trying it, but
    the odds are good.

    --
    Joe

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  • From Chris Green@21:1/5 to Greg on Thu Mar 13 17:50:01 2025
    Greg <curtyshoo@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 2025-03-13, Joe <joe@jretrading.com> wrote:

    It's only a webcam, and random webcams usually work. I've recently

    The term "endoscope" seems excessive (if not scary).

    When searching for one to buy it's necessary as otherwise you get
    loads of ordinary webcams which aren't what I want.

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    Chris Green
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  • From Chris Green@21:1/5 to Joe on Thu Mar 13 17:50:02 2025
    Joe <joe@jretrading.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 12 Mar 2025 20:43:12 -0600
    Charles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com> wrote:

    On Wed, 12 Mar 2025 14:26:32 +0000
    Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:

    I want to buy one of the cheap (£2.50 to £15) USB endoscope cameras
    so I can poke around and see things under the engine of my little
    canal boat.

    A little bit of research suggests that most will probably work if
    they claim to work with a 'PC' as that implies they use UVC to communicate with a computer and there's UVC support in Debian
    (guvcview et al.)

    Can anyone confirm that I have this right? Does anyone here
    actually use one of these cameras with Debian? Actual
    recommendations of specific suppliers/cameras would be very
    welcome, eBay, Amazon, AliExpress, I'm not fussy! :-)

    In 2022 I ordered an endoscope from Newegg which failed to work with
    either Debian or Windows. I returned it without incident. It does not
    seem to be available from Newegg at the moment. Sorry I can't give you
    a more detailed description of it.


    It's only a webcam, and random webcams usually work. I've recently
    bought a Bresser USB 'microscope', basically a webcam with a
    narrow-angle lens, and that's fine.

    I don't think it is possible to tell without actually trying it, but
    the odds are good.

    OK, thanks, so I'll go for something reasonably cheap then as there
    seems no gain with particular suppliers or models.

    --
    Chris Green
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  • From debian-user@howorth.org.uk@21:1/5 to Greg on Thu Mar 13 21:50:02 2025
    Greg <curtyshoo@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 2025-03-13, David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> wrote:

    OTOH most people will have come across endoscopes, usually in the
    context of colonoscopies and suchlike, hence your "scary".

    I've never come across one for the general public, but then it would
    never have occurred to me to search for an endoscope to inspect the
    exterior hull of my non-existent boat.

    The OP (Chris) said he wants it to poke around under the engine of his
    canal boat. Engines are inside canal boats. There's a space underneath
    them that things can fall into.

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  • From Chris Green@21:1/5 to Greg on Thu Mar 13 22:20:01 2025
    Greg <curtyshoo@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 2025-03-13, David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> wrote:

    OTOH most people will have come across endoscopes, usually in the
    context of colonoscopies and suchlike, hence your "scary".

    I've never come across one for the general public, but then it would
    never have occurred to me to search for an endoscope to inspect the
    exterior hull of my non-existent boat.

    I don't want to look at the outside of the hull, I want to look
    inside right down in the bilges under the engine. This is quite
    inaccessible and one of the cameras that are advertised mostly as
    'endoscopes' would make looking around down there more possible.

    As I said before the only reason I used the word endoscope was that
    it's the best way to actually get hits on the type of device I'm
    after. Another search term that can work is 'inspection camera'.

    --
    Chris Green
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  • From James H. H. Lampert@21:1/5 to David Wright on Thu Mar 13 22:50:01 2025
    On 3/13/25 12:15 PM, David Wright wrote:
    OTOH most people will have come across endoscopes, usually in the
    context of colonoscopies and suchlike, hence your "scary".

    Why would anybody find a colonoscopy scary?

    Just geek out and enjoy the guided tour!

    --
    JHHL

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  • From debian-user@howorth.org.uk@21:1/5 to Chris Green on Fri Mar 14 13:30:01 2025
    Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:

    I don't want to look at the outside of the hull, I want to look
    inside right down in the bilges under the engine. This is quite
    inaccessible and one of the cameras that are advertised mostly as 'endoscopes' would make looking around down there more possible.

    As I said before the only reason I used the word endoscope was that
    it's the best way to actually get hits on the type of device I'm
    after. Another search term that can work is 'inspection camera'.

    FWIW, I bought an endoscope a couple of years ago. It was from Amazon
    and brand Depstech, but isn't available now. It works well for me.
    Features I like: wi-fi link to an app on my phone; 1920p resolution;
    built-in LED illumination; 5m long. Waterproof might be important for
    you. As others have said, there are lots around and it's pot luck!

    Again FWIW, this one https://www.amazon.co.uk/Endoscope-Inspection-Flexible-Waterproof-Android/dp/B0DR9HLKNZ
    seems pretty cheap.

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  • From Charlie Gibbs@21:1/5 to jamesl@touchtonecorp.com on Fri Mar 14 19:10:02 2025
    On Thu Mar 13 16:49:25 2025 "James H. H. Lampert"
    <jamesl@touchtonecorp.com> wrote:

    On 3/13/25 12:15 PM, David Wright wrote:

    OTOH most people will have come across endoscopes, usually in the
    context of colonoscopies and suchlike, hence your "scary".

    Why would anybody find a colonoscopy scary?

    Just geek out and enjoy the guided tour!

    I didn't realize how zonked I was until afterwards when I
    tried to use my mind for anything. Mind you, any drug that
    makes you not care about having 5 feet of tubing up your
    nether region must be pretty good.

    I do clearly remember looking at the monitor and seeing a
    Windows taskbar across the bottom. My last coherent thought
    was, "Oh God, please don't give me a Blue Screen of Death."

    --
    /~\ Charlie Gibbs | Growth for the sake of
    \ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | growth is the ideology
    X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | of the cancer cell.
    / \ if you read it the right way. | -- Edward Abbey

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  • From Roy J. Tellason, Sr.@21:1/5 to debian-user@howorth.org.uk on Sat Mar 15 02:50:01 2025
    On Friday 14 March 2025 08:28:30 am debian-user@howorth.org.uk wrote:
    Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:

    I don't want to look at the outside of the hull, I want to look
    inside right down in the bilges under the engine. This is quite inaccessible and one of the cameras that are advertised mostly as 'endoscopes' would make looking around down there more possible.

    As I said before the only reason I used the word endoscope was that
    it's the best way to actually get hits on the type of device I'm
    after. Another search term that can work is 'inspection camera'.

    FWIW, I bought an endoscope a couple of years ago. It was from Amazon
    and brand Depstech, but isn't available now. It works well for me.
    Features I like: wi-fi link to an app on my phone; 1920p resolution;
    built-in LED illumination; 5m long. Waterproof might be important for
    you. As others have said, there are lots around and it's pot luck!

    Again FWIW, this one https://www.amazon.co.uk/Endoscope-Inspection-Flexible-Waterproof-Android/dp/B0DR9HLKNZ
    seems pretty cheap.

    That _is_ amazingly cheap, I had no idea that one of these could be had for that kind of a price. Given that, it's just a little bit big for one of the things I'd like to use it for, and I'm also kinda interested in the ones that have two cameras,
    so I guess I'll poke around some and see what I can find. Thanks for posting that link.

    --
    Member of the toughest, meanest, deadliest, most unrelenting -- and
    ablest -- form of life in this section of space,  a critter that can
    be killed but can't be tamed.  --Robert A. Heinlein, "The Puppet Masters"
    -
    Information is more dangerous than cannon to a society ruled by lies. --James M Dakin

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  • From Chris Green@21:1/5 to Chris Green on Sat Mar 15 17:20:02 2025
    Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:
    Joe <joe@jretrading.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 12 Mar 2025 20:43:12 -0600
    Charles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com> wrote:

    On Wed, 12 Mar 2025 14:26:32 +0000
    Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:

    I want to buy one of the cheap (£2.50 to £15) USB endoscope cameras so I can poke around and see things under the engine of my little
    canal boat.

    A little bit of research suggests that most will probably work if
    they claim to work with a 'PC' as that implies they use UVC to communicate with a computer and there's UVC support in Debian
    (guvcview et al.)

    Can anyone confirm that I have this right? Does anyone here
    actually use one of these cameras with Debian? Actual
    recommendations of specific suppliers/cameras would be very
    welcome, eBay, Amazon, AliExpress, I'm not fussy! :-)

    In 2022 I ordered an endoscope from Newegg which failed to work with either Debian or Windows. I returned it without incident. It does not seem to be available from Newegg at the moment. Sorry I can't give you
    a more detailed description of it.


    It's only a webcam, and random webcams usually work. I've recently
    bought a Bresser USB 'microscope', basically a webcam with a
    narrow-angle lens, and that's fine.

    I don't think it is possible to tell without actually trying it, but
    the odds are good.

    OK, thanks, so I'll go for something reasonably cheap then as there
    seems no gain with particular suppliers or models.

    Well, being impatient, I bought one of these from Amazon:-

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Dual-Lens-WOVTE-Inspection-Adjustable-Waterproof/dp/B0DDBMRYB8/

    It arrived today, I installed guvcview and it 'just works', brilliant!
    Both lens' are recognised, I can set the definition, it's all very straightforward and easy to use.

    Thanks for all the help everyone, it made me fairly sure most cameras
    would be likely to work OK. I chose the above one (apart from Amazon
    next day delivery) because it is reasonably high definition, it has a
    USB-A plug to go straight into my laptop and it has the second lens on
    the side which seemed to me a good idea when poking around under the
    engine on the boat.

    --
    Chris Green
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  • From Chris Green@21:1/5 to Greg on Sat Mar 15 22:20:01 2025
    Greg <curtyshoo@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 2025-03-15, Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:

    Thanks for all the help everyone, it made me fairly sure most cameras
    would be likely to work OK. I chose the above one (apart from Amazon
    next day delivery) because it is reasonably high definition, it has a
    USB-A plug to go straight into my laptop and it has the second lens on
    the side which seemed to me a good idea when poking around under the
    engine on the boat.

    And did you find Aunt Bertie in the bilges, or was she at the local pub?

    Not yet, I'm in the UK and the boat is in France, I'll be back there
    in a couple weeks. :-)

    --
    Chris Green
    ·

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