Hi folks,

maybe I missed something, but during install I can chose, if macchanger will change the macaddress, whenever a network interface comes up.

As this happens during boot, too, I wondered, why I instead get still the original macaddress.

Is this just a bug, or do I have to add extra scripts by my own or do I have
to change some configurations?

I searched the web, but all documentations I found are telling, how to install and how to use manual commands. Of course the manual commands are all working well, but dues to the configuration option by dpkg-reconfigure I would expect, all mac addresses been changed at boot.

What did I miss, if any?

Thanks for your help.

Best

Hans

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On Tue, Mar 18, 2025 at 04:28:31PM +0100, Hans wrote:

Hi folks,

maybe I missed something,

but during install I can chose, if macchanger will
change the macaddress, whenever a network interface comes up.

As this happens during boot, too, I wondered, why I instead get still the original macaddress.

Is this just a bug, or do I have to add extra scripts by my own or do I have to change some configurations?

I searched the web, but all documentations I found are telling, how to install
and how to use manual commands. Of course the manual commands are all working well, but dues to the configuration option by dpkg-reconfigure I would expect,
all mac addresses been changed at boot.

What did I miss, if any?

Probably https://xyproblem.info


Please state what the desired goal is.

In case it is "random MAC address", elaborate **why**.


Groeten
Geert Stappers
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Hi Geert,

the desired goal is, that my original MAC will never appear after boot. As dpkg-reconfigure macchanger claims this to do, in real it does not.

My background thouhgts are: When using maachanger in TAILS, then it will never protect the victim.

Of course, one can always write a script, which does this, but IMO the actual behaviour is a bug - but I may be wrong.

Hans

Please state what the desired goal is.

In case it is "random MAC address", elaborate **why**.

Groeten
Geert Stappers

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It is often leaving my LAN, because I am often on the road with my laptop. And it is not the lan interface important, but the wifi interface.

But this is not the main point: I can change the MAC manually when I must or want.

And my person is not the goal, I am thinking of the people, which want to be anonymous and rely on macchanger (and its settings during install).

However, if the developers or maintainers think, everything is all right and the user can change the mac manually when he wants it, and when he forgot to do it, then he just simply had hard luck, who cares, then we can close this discussion!

For myself the solution is "make manually on the road" (and maybe, if I am lazy, I will create a script for me), but this solution is not usable for everybody.

Short for long: I thought, I should mention this issue as it might be interesting. If not, sorry for the noise.

Best

Hans

Am Mittwoch, 19. März 2025, 10:31:26 CET schrieb Dan Purgert:

On Mar 19, 2025, Hans wrote:

Hi Geert,

the desired goal is, that my original MAC will never appear after
boot. As dpkg-reconfigure macchanger claims this to do, in real it
does not.

Is this PC physically leaving your LAN? If not, changing the MAC isn't
going to do all that much.

My background thouhgts are: When using maachanger in TAILS, then it
will never protect the victim.

I'm not a user of tails, but I would imagine that they've "fixed" the
gap. If not, maybe bring it up to their maintainers?

That being said -- protect the "victim" from what, exactly?

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On Mar 19, 2025, Hans wrote:

Hi Geert,

the desired goal is, that my original MAC will never appear after
boot. As dpkg-reconfigure macchanger claims this to do, in real it
does not.

Is this PC physically leaving your LAN? If not, changing the MAC isn't
going to do all that much.

My background thouhgts are: When using maachanger in TAILS, then it
will never protect the victim.

I'm not a user of tails, but I would imagine that they've "fixed" the
gap. If not, maybe bring it up to their maintainers?

That being said -- protect the "victim" from what, exactly?


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On Mar 19, 2025, Hans wrote:

It is often leaving my LAN, because I am often on the road with my
laptop. And it is not the lan interface important, but the wifi
interface.

For clarification -- I was saying "your LAN" in the sense of "home", not
in reference to the interface.

[...]
However, if the developers or maintainers think, everything is all
right and the user can change the mac manually when he wants it, and
when he forgot to do it, then he just simply had hard luck, who cares,
then we can close this discussion!

Well, I can't speak for the devs / package maintainers -- I'm just a
user afterall (as are nearly all of us here on debian-user ;) )

For myself the solution is "make manually on the road" (and maybe, if
I am lazy, I will create a script for me), but this solution is not
usable for everybody.

share the script, then it is :)

Honestly, I would imagine all that's needed is an "@reboot" definition
in a cronjob that runs the macchanger command (or equivalent in systemd
timer things).

Short for long: I thought, I should mention this issue as it might be interesting. If not, sorry for the noise.

Best

Hans

Am Mittwoch, 19. März 2025, 10:31:26 CET schrieb Dan Purgert:

On Mar 19, 2025, Hans wrote:

Hi Geert,

the desired goal is, that my original MAC will never appear after
boot. As dpkg-reconfigure macchanger claims this to do, in real it
does not.

Is this PC physically leaving your LAN? If not, changing the MAC isn't going to do all that much.

My background thouhgts are: When using maachanger in TAILS, then it
will never protect the victim.

I'm not a user of tails, but I would imagine that they've "fixed" the
gap. If not, maybe bring it up to their maintainers?

That being said -- protect the "victim" from what, exactly?

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