On 3/31/25 13:55, David Wright wrote:
On Mon 31 Mar 2025 at 11:19:30 (-0400), gene heskett wrote:
The dns problem is separate I guess, but does bring up my other pet
peeve. That is that no one at debian considers the effect on dns to
those of us who have been using hosts files for local dns since back
in the late 90's I have no dhcpd setup and rig my lashup so that my
local lookups are first and in the hosts file, if not it the hosts, my
isp's dns gets queried. But every new install changes things around
resolv.conf making that harder and harder to do.
I don't understand. You have a router running dd-wrt, don't you. https://wiki.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Static_DHCP
explains how to configure it to hand out static addresses, yet you
maintain that it can't do that, eg:
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2023/12/msg00009.html
What makes the debian people treat hosts file users, like 3rd class
users? Its easier to setup, needs less maintenance, and Just Works
since my first linux install in '98... Sure, we can lock NM from
tearing a working net down by making resolv.conf immutable and a real
file. We no longer have to do that with bookworm but from wheezy to
bookworm we did have to protect resolv.conf from NM. But every time
we mention it, we catch it by giving us what for w/o telling us how to
make it work. That too gets old. Why?
I don't know why you have problems with using /etc/hosts for lookups
on your LAN. I use it here without any problems, and it has to work
because there's no DNS server in my router (too cheap).
$ grep hosts: /etc/nsswitch.conf
hosts: files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns
because files doesn't work in bookworm, I had to:
grep hosts: /etc/nsswitch.conf
hosts: files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns myhostname
to make the hosts file work
$
The hosts file is just a reformatted list of the Reserved Addresses
list from the router, with my "fake" domain (.corp) added, and it gets consulted first.
The main advantage of using my router to hand out static addresses
is that it includes printers, scanners, mobile phones, TVs and set-top
boxes, stuff that I don't want to bother with configuring myself, plus
the fact that it's always powered on.
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Sorry to disappoint you but that seems to be working Just Fine, but
once again, you make no attempt to either explain why its wrong, or to
tell us what the right way is other than demanding we waste a week
making dhcpd actually work.
Then why the complaint?
Cheers,
David.
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Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
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