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  • Trixie - freeze? Questions

    From Hans@21:1/5 to All on Tue May 20 16:50:01 2025
    Dear list,

    now as trixie is is in frozen state I am asking myself, when best time to upgrade to trixie.

    My systems are no important product systems, so small failures do not harm much.

    First question: Would you recommend to upgrade now or just wait until the official release?

    Second question: I have the feeling, that after trixie freeze packages from stable are also in a "frozen" state. Is this be done, because you do not want to risk any upgrade crashes from bookworm to trixie as the now frozen packages guarantee a flawless upgrade?

    Third question: Maybe some German speaking can answer this: I saw the term "keypackages for debian" in the doku. Does this mean what you say in German "Schlüsselpakete" (packages, which are necessary) or does it mean "Pakete mit Schlüsseln" (packages with some key-files in it)?

    Thanks for a short feedback.

    Best

    Hans


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  • From Erwan David@21:1/5 to Hans on Tue May 20 17:00:01 2025
    On Tue, May 20, 2025 at 04:44:25PM CEST, Hans <hans.ullrich@mail.de> said:
    Dear list,

    now as trixie is is in frozen state I am asking myself, when best time to upgrade to trixie.

    My systems are no important product systems, so small failures do not harm much.

    First question: Would you recommend to upgrade now or just wait until the official release?

    Clearly, I would recommend to wait for some weeks : you'll get then a tested upgrade
    path with documentation, and most integration bugs corrected.



    --
    Erwan David

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  • From Dan Ritter@21:1/5 to Hans on Tue May 20 18:20:01 2025
    Hans wrote:
    Dear list,

    now as trixie is is in frozen state I am asking myself, when best time to upgrade to trixie.

    My systems are no important product systems, so small failures do not harm much.

    First question: Would you recommend to upgrade now or just wait until the official release?

    I'm not going to move anything until the official release.

    Then I will start by upgrading a system that is of little
    concern to me; after a week or so, several more systems.

    It may be a month or more before I upgrade my most important
    systems.


    Second question: I have the feeling, that after trixie freeze packages from stable are also in a "frozen" state. Is this be done, because you do not want to risk any upgrade crashes from bookworm to trixie as the now frozen packages
    guarantee a flawless upgrade?

    No, you can expect the same careful upgrades for security and
    bug fixes in stable up to the trixie promotion to stable and for
    a year beyond.

    -dsr-

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  • From Anssi Saari@21:1/5 to Hans on Wed May 21 12:30:02 2025
    Hans <hans.ullrich@mail.de> writes:

    First question: Would you recommend to upgrade now or just wait until the official release?

    I'll wait for the official release, check if any nasty bugs in it are
    real and relevant to me (known severe bugs chapter in the release notes)
    and if not, then upgrade. But whatever floats your boat.

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg-Volker_Peetz?=@21:1/5 to Hans on Sat May 24 16:10:01 2025
    Hi,

    Hans wrote on 20/05/2025 16:44:
    <snip>
    Third question: Maybe some German speaking can answer this: I saw the term "keypackages for debian" in the doku. Does this mean what you say in German "Schlüsselpakete" (packages, which are necessary) or does it mean "Pakete mit
    Schlüsseln" (packages with some key-files in it)?

    It's the first meaning, see https://release.debian.org/key-packages.html : "packages of a given priority (standard, important and required)" and a few more
    dependencies.

    Regards,
    Jörg.

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