On 7/6/25 17:26, gene heskett wrote:
On 6/7/25 02:52, Bret Busby wrote:
It is all relative...
Yes it is, but you would be amazed at the supposedly intelligent
people who will argue the a 5 foot long low uhf band klystron
amplifier as used until the 1985 time frame, is immune to E=MV2 math.
extremely off topic, but possibly educational:
It can be a very high gain amplifier, turning a 1 watt drive at the
top of the tube into 30kw at the bottom, nominally 5 feet away. But
the output has a horrible time vs power level distortion. We did not
then know, and most assumed a non-linearity in the amplitude domain,
but it was actually in the time domain because the electron beam was
traveling at a voltage differential of 19,700 volts, the variable mass
of the electron changed because it could be slowed at the lower mass
but speeding it up raised the mass, so the average velocity was
reduced, increasing the transit time by around 120 nanoseconds at 30kw
(ntsc sync tips) vs 1kw (at ntsc white.) This put horrible spikes on
both edges of the sync.
At that time we did not know how to predistort the drive to compensate
that in the time domain but obviously we have learned how now or we
would not have our working hidef digital tv we have today.
I am glad that tech has been replaced with better stuff as the
klystron amplifier has a hell of a power bill, needing 113kw of wall
power per tube.. Do able when electricity was 2 cents a kwh, at 20
cents most early uhf stations went dark, squeezed by the power bill
into bankruptcy. That and a tired tube was about $125,000 for a fresh
one. Certified check no time payment plan.
Here's one for you, in terms of relativity...
When I was at secondary school, we had an interesting physics teacher
(he was a pom, and so we had some amusing banter), and he found an interesting way of telling us of relativity and relativistic mechanics.
According to the Doppler theory (I believe it was - this is from some
decades ago), if you would be travelling toward a set of traffic lights,
at the speed of light, and the traffic lights were red, the Doppler
effect would cause them to appear green, and, so you could travel
through them; and, if you hit anything, it would not matter, because, at
the speed of light, you would have infinite mass, and so, whatever you
hit, would be obliterated...
:)
I still remember the teacher's name - he was an interesting teacher, who taught using various methods, including learning things from errors.
One of the aspects of science, when it goes beyond classical science,
like going beyond classical physics, is that it can become like a
mathematics lecturer once said of pure maths (he taught pure mathematics
and differential equations) - the further a person goes into it, the
more a person can lose a grip on reality; it is like the question of
"the universe" - it is said to be constantly expanding and contracting -
if that is correct, then, something must exist outside the border of
"the universe". If that is correct, then, how can what we regard as "the universe", be regarded as a universe, when it is not all encompassing?
It is like Danny DeVito's reference to "Military Intelligence".
..
Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia
(UTC+0800)
..............
On 6/7/25 02:52, Bret Busby wrote:
It is all relative...
Yes it is, but you would be amazed at the supposedly intelligent people
who will argue the a 5 foot long low uhf band klystron amplifier as used until the 1985 time frame, is immune to E=MV2 math.
extremely off topic, but possibly educational:
It can be a very high gain amplifier, turning a 1 watt drive at the top
of the tube into 30kw at the bottom, nominally 5 feet away. But the
output has a horrible time vs power level distortion. We did not then
know, and most assumed a non-linearity in the amplitude domain, but it
was actually in the time domain because the electron beam was traveling
at a voltage differential of 19,700 volts, the variable mass of the
electron changed because it could be slowed at the lower mass but
speeding it up raised the mass, so the average velocity was reduced, increasing the transit time by around 120 nanoseconds at 30kw (ntsc sync tips) vs 1kw (at ntsc white.) This put horrible spikes on both edges of
the sync.
At that time we did not know how to predistort the drive to compensate
that in the time domain but obviously we have learned how now or we
would not have our working hidef digital tv we have today.
I am glad that tech has been replaced with better stuff as the klystron amplifier has a hell of a power bill, needing 113kw of wall power per
tube.. Do able when electricity was 2 cents a kwh, at 20 cents most
early uhf stations went dark, squeezed by the power bill into
bankruptcy. That and a tired tube was about $125,000 for a fresh one. Certified check no time payment plan.
According to the Doppler theory (I believe it was - this is from some
decades ago), if you would be travelling toward a set of traffic lights, at the speed of light,
and the traffic lights were red, the Doppler effect would cause them to appear green, and, so you could travel through them; and, if you hit anything, it would not matter, because, at the speed of light, you would have infinite mass,
it is like the question of "the universe" - it is said to be constantly expanding and contracting - if that is correct, then, something must exist outside the border of "the universe". If that is correct, then, how can what we regard as "the universe", be regarded as a universe, when it is not all encompassing?
(There is a Nobel prize waiting for those who can explain why the Higgs bosons jostle so much around fast moving objects of non-zero rest
mass ...)
On 7/6/25 17:26, gene heskett wrote:Define reality. . .
On 6/7/25 02:52, Bret Busby wrote:
It is all relative...
Yes it is, but you would be amazed at the supposedly intelligent
people who will argue the a 5 foot long low uhf band klystron
amplifier as used until the 1985 time frame, is immune to E=MV2 math.
extremely off topic, but possibly educational:
It can be a very high gain amplifier, turning a 1 watt drive at the
top of the tube into 30kw at the bottom, nominally 5 feet away. But
the output has a horrible time vs power level distortion. We did not
then know, and most assumed a non-linearity in the amplitude domain,
but it was actually in the time domain because the electron beam was
traveling at a voltage differential of 19,700 volts, the variable
mass of the electron changed because it could be slowed at the lower
mass but speeding it up raised the mass, so the average velocity was
reduced, increasing the transit time by around 120 nanoseconds at
30kw (ntsc sync tips) vs 1kw (at ntsc white.) This put horrible
spikes on both edges of the sync.
At that time we did not know how to predistort the drive to
compensate that in the time domain but obviously we have learned how
now or we would not have our working hidef digital tv we have today.
I am glad that tech has been replaced with better stuff as the
klystron amplifier has a hell of a power bill, needing 113kw of wall
power per tube.. Do able when electricity was 2 cents a kwh, at 20
cents most early uhf stations went dark, squeezed by the power bill
into bankruptcy. That and a tired tube was about $125,000 for a fresh
one. Certified check no time payment plan.
Here's one for you, in terms of relativity...
When I was at secondary school, we had an interesting physics teacher
(he was a pom, and so we had some amusing banter), and he found an interesting way of telling us of relativity and relativistic mechanics.
According to the Doppler theory (I believe it was - this is from some
decades ago), if you would be travelling toward a set of traffic
lights, at the speed of light, and the traffic lights were red, the
Doppler effect would cause them to appear green, and, so you could
travel through them; and, if you hit anything, it would not matter,
because, at the speed of light, you would have infinite mass, and so, whatever you hit, would be obliterated...
:)
I still remember the teacher's name - he was an interesting teacher,
who taught using various methods, including learning things from errors.
One of the aspects of science, when it goes beyond classical science,
like going beyond classical physics, is that it can become like a
mathematics lecturer once said of pure maths (he taught pure
mathematics and differential equations) - the further a person goes
into it, the more a person can lose a grip on reality;
it is like the question of "the universe" - it is said to be
constantly expanding and contracting - if that is correct, then,
something must exist outside the border of "the universe". If that is correct, then, how can what we regard as "the universe", be regarded
as a universe, when it is not all encompassing?
It is like Danny DeVito's reference to "Military Intelligence".
..
Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia
(UTC+0800)
..............
.
On 7/6/25 18:14, Bret Busby wrote:variation of E=MC2 where v is the fraction of C speed. That is pretty
On 7/6/25 17:26, gene heskett wrote:
On 6/7/25 02:52, Bret Busby wrote:
It is all relative...
Yes it is, but you would be amazed at the supposedly intelligent
people who will argue the a 5 foot long low uhf band klystron
amplifier as used until the 1985 time frame, is immune to E=MV2 math.
Isn't it E = (1/2)(M*(v**2)) ?
The time aspect reminds me of the reference to time, by Lucy, in "TheNot fam wit it but I'll take a look if I can. Thank You Bret.
Lucy Show" - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2872732/
Fascinating movie.
The issue is that he predicted the "evaporation" of black holes by
some quantum events near the event horizon. But if you look at it
carefully you have some quantum recipe for depositing some exotic
(negative mass) objects into the black hole. It doesn't have to be
matter it could be radiation. But that concept has it's own issues:
are we talking about negative frequency or negative wavelength or
both? Negative frequency is nonsense. Negative wavelength needs
several extra dimensions, which gets complicated pretty quick!
On Sat, 2025-06-07 at 13:19 -0400, gene heskett wrote:
People who make youRead John Droz Jr's columns about critical thinking at https://criticallythinking.substack.com/
actually think are the best. Not because they teach facts, but
because
they make you think and reach your own opinion.
Considering that shot has killed well over a million to date
On Sat, Jun 7, 2025, 9:56 PM gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> wrote:
....My next door neighbor about 20 years
younger took the first shot and within about 90 days lost half a lung.
Today there are folks in their 40's and 50's here in northern WV falling
over at 2 to 4 a day, twice the rate compared to a decade ago from the
left overs because their immune system was killed by that shot. Its a
scamdemic, designed as a population control. Fertile, but vaccinated
women miss-carry at more than a 75% rate. I go to the store & buy my
own food since I'm alone, I have not seen a new baby in a grocery cart
in 5 years.
For more than 15 years the world has known about the opioid/fentanyl/heroin >addiction problem in your state of West Virginia. Did you forget about the >class-action lawsuits against the pharmaceutical wholesalers there? We did >not forget. But instead of blaming the rich man who rips you off, you blame >science, vaccines and "liberals". Your teenagers' arms are falling-off >because they are rotting from the inside-out, all those shots.
You advertise your guns in every email. Well come-on up to Chitown dude 😁 >We've had fully-automatic on the streets here for more than 100 years. Ever >since the Northside Jewish mobster Hymie Weiss tried to take out Al Capone >for killing his boss, the Irish mobster Dion OBannion. For years I lived 3 >blocks from the site of that first Thompson sub-machinegun drive-by
shooting. The truth is simple: you are a coward and just like every coward >you cover it up with fake-tough. You don't fool anyone from 112th St in >Chicago, we smell a coward from miles away.
No Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
- Louis D. Brandeis
On Sat, 2025-06-07 at 17:23 -0400, Lee Winter wrote:
Based on those documents, can you describe "how it works"? The
documents don't. They just assert that all radiation reduces the
mass of the black hole. How is that reduction accomplished?
Radation has mass, as can be seen from m = E/c^2. If a pair of virtual photons are created by the stress at the event horizon, one falls into
the black hole, and one escapes, the black hole loses mass.
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