• readers running debian

    From fxkl47BF@protonmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jul 3 01:50:01 2025
    i'm looking for a reader for pdf's and other media
    are there any running debian or other linux based distributions

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  • From ghe2001@21:1/5 to fxkl47BF@protonmail.com on Thu Jul 3 02:50:01 2025
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    On Wednesday, July 2nd, 2025 at 5:47 PM, fxkl47BF@protonmail.com <fxkl47BF@protonmail.com> wrote:

    i'm looking for a reader for pdf's and other media
    are there any running debian or other linux based distributions

    Firefox, Protonmail, and the toys that come with debian's XFCE GUI install have been quite flexible and reliable on my boxes for several years.

    --
    Glenn English

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  • From tomas@tuxteam.de@21:1/5 to Alexander V. Makartsev on Thu Jul 3 06:40:01 2025
    On Thu, Jul 03, 2025 at 08:25:27AM +0500, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote:
    On 03.07.2025 04:47, fxkl47BF@protonmail.com wrote:
    i'm looking for a reader for pdf's and other media
    are there any running debian or other linux based distributions

    "okular", "evince", "viewnior" to name a few.

    And xpdf.

    apt search "pdf.*reader"

    yields (among a few false positives) a few possible hits I never heard
    of.

    Cheers
    --
    t

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  • From Alif Radhitya@21:1/5 to fxkl47BF@protonmail.com on Thu Jul 3 07:40:01 2025
    If thou art interested in minimalism, then go with 'Zathura'.

    On July 2, 2025 11:47:18 PM UTC, fxkl47BF@protonmail.com wrote:
    i'm looking for a reader for pdf's and other media
    are there any running debian or other linux based distributions


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  • From tomas@tuxteam.de@21:1/5 to Alif Radhitya on Thu Jul 3 08:50:01 2025
    On Thu, Jul 03, 2025 at 05:29:56AM +0000, Alif Radhitya wrote:
    If thou art interested in minimalism, then go with 'Zathura'.

    Hmmm.

    tomas@caliban:~$ apt show zathura xpdf
    Package: zathura
    [...]
    Installed-Size: 723 kB
    Provides: zathura-abi-5
    Depends: zathura-pdf-poppler, libc6 (>= 2.34), libcairo2 (>= 1.14.0), libgirara-gtk3-3 (>= 0.3.7), libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.50), libgtk-3-0 (>= 3.22), libmagic1 (>= 5.12), libpango-1.0-0 (>= 1.14.0), libseccomp2 (>= 0.0.0~20120605), libsqlite3-0 (>= 3.6.23),
    libsynctex2 (>= 2022.20220321.62855)
    [...]

    Package: xpdf
    [...]
    Installed-Size: 372 kB
    Provides: pdf-viewer
    Depends: libc6 (>= 2.34), libgcc-s1 (>= 3.0), libpaper1, libpoppler126 (>= 22.12.0), libstdc++6 (>= 11), libx11-6, libxm4 (>= 2.3.4), libxt6
    [...]

    Cheers
    --
    tomás

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  • From Erwan David@21:1/5 to fxkl47BF@protonmail.com on Thu Jul 3 09:10:01 2025
    On Thu, Jul 03, 2025 at 01:47:18AM CEST, fxkl47BF@protonmail.com said:
    i'm looking for a reader for pdf's and other media
    are there any running debian or other linux based distributions


    By "reader" do you mean a software running on a standard debian computer, or a hardware specialized for
    reading documents, that you'd like to be running a debian based system ?


    --
    Erwan David

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  • From Chris Green@21:1/5 to Alexander V. Makartsev on Thu Jul 3 09:00:01 2025
    Alexander V. Makartsev <avbetev@gmail.com> wrote:
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    On 03.07.2025 04:47, fxkl47BF@protonmail.com wrote:
    i'm looking for a reader for pdf's and other media
    are there any running debian or other linux based distributions

    "okular", "evince", "viewnior" to name a few.
    Okular has many dependencies on KDE, so if your system uses other
    Desktop Environment, Xfce for an example, it is better to go for Evince
    and Viewnior.

    On my Debian system I have evince and atril, atril is the default PDF
    reader but occasionally I find that evince works better.

    --
    Chris Green
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  • From tomas@tuxteam.de@21:1/5 to Alexander V. Makartsev on Thu Jul 3 10:00:01 2025
    On Thu, Jul 03, 2025 at 12:08:27PM +0500, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote:

    [...]

    I've re-read original poster's message and now I think we all
    mis-interpreted their request.
    I think they asked for a suggestion about hardware, like a tablet computer, or a handheld book reader capable of viewing PDFs and other media formats,

    Quite possible, yes.

    Cheers
    --
    tomás

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  • From fxkl47BF@protonmail.com@21:1/5 to tomas@tuxteam.de on Thu Jul 3 13:30:02 2025
    On Thu, 3 Jul 2025, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:

    On Thu, Jul 03, 2025 at 12:08:27PM +0500, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote:

    [...]

    I've re-read original poster's message and now I think we all
    mis-interpreted their request.
    I think they asked for a suggestion about hardware, like a tablet computer, >> or a handheld book reader capable of viewing PDFs and other media formats,

    Quite possible, yes.

    it sounded very clear when i said it in my head :)
    is there no dedicated reader device that can run a linux distro

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  • From Bret Busby@21:1/5 to Alexander V. Makartsev on Thu Jul 3 11:10:01 2025
    On 3/7/25 15:08, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote:
    On 03.07.2025 09:35, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
    On Thu, Jul 03, 2025 at 08:25:27AM +0500, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote:
    On 03.07.2025 04:47,fxkl47BF@protonmail.com wrote:
    i'm looking for a reader for pdf's and other media
    are there any running debian or other linux based distributions

    "okular", "evince", "viewnior" to name a few.
    And xpdf.

    apt search "pdf.*reader"

    yields (among a few false positives) a few possible hits I never heard
    of.

    Cheers
    I've re-read original poster's message and now I think we all
    mis-interpreted their request.
    I think they asked for a suggestion about hardware, like a tablet
    computer, or a handheld book reader capable of viewing PDFs and other
    media formats, with Debian or another Linux distro under the hood.
    Probably these devices originally will run on Android or on some
    proprietary OS with locked bootloader and encrypted firmware, so the end
    user couldn't fight planned obsolescence.
    Speaking from my little experience, making custom firmware will be
    incredibly difficult, also according to: https://wiki.debian.org/Mobile

    --

    With kindest regards, Alexander.

    Debian - The universal operating system
    https://www.debian.org


    Yes, I quite agree with the last post above; in reading the Subject
    field of the thread, and, the text cited above, from the original
    device, the original poster appears to be seeking something like a
    kindle device - note - device, not software application - that will run
    the Debian operating system -"readers running debian" - not "PDF viewers running on Debian".

    And,
    "
    i'm looking for a reader for pdf's and other media
    are there any running debian or other linux based distributions
    "


    "
    "So once you do know what the question actually is,
    you'll know what the answer means."
    - Deep Thought,
    Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
    "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
    A Trilogy In Four Parts",
    written by Douglas Adams,
    published by Pan Books, 1992
    "


    ..
    Bret Busby
    Armadale
    West Australia
    (UTC+0800)
    ..............

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  • From Bret Busby@21:1/5 to Bret Busby on Thu Jul 3 11:40:01 2025
    On 3/7/25 17:10, Bret Busby wrote:
    On 3/7/25 15:08, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote:
    On 03.07.2025 09:35, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
    On Thu, Jul 03, 2025 at 08:25:27AM +0500, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: >>>> On 03.07.2025 04:47,fxkl47BF@protonmail.com  wrote:
    i'm looking for a reader for pdf's and other media
    are there any running debian or other linux based distributions

    "okular", "evince", "viewnior" to name a few.
    And xpdf.

       apt search "pdf.*reader"

    yields (among a few false positives) a few possible hits I never heard
    of.

    Cheers
    I've re-read original poster's message and now I think we all
    mis-interpreted their request.
    I think they asked for a suggestion about hardware, like a tablet
    computer, or a handheld book reader capable of viewing PDFs and other
    media formats, with Debian or another Linux distro under the hood.
    Probably these devices originally will run on Android or on some
    proprietary OS with locked bootloader and encrypted firmware, so the
    end user couldn't fight planned obsolescence.
    Speaking from my little experience, making custom firmware will be
    incredibly difficult, also according to: https://wiki.debian.org/Mobile

    --

      With kindest regards, Alexander.

      Debian - The universal operating system
      https://www.debian.org


    Yes, I quite agree with the last post above; in reading the Subject
    field of the thread, and, the text cited above, from the original
    device, the original poster appears to be seeking something like a
    kindle device - note - device, not software application - that will run
    the Debian operating system -"readers running debian" - not "PDF viewers running on Debian".

    And,
    "
    i'm looking for a reader for pdf's and other media
    are there any running debian or other linux based distributions
    "


    "
    "So once you do know what the question actually is,
     you'll know what the answer means."
    - Deep Thought,
      Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
      "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
      A Trilogy In Four Parts",
      written by Douglas Adams,
      published by Pan Books, 1992
    "



    I believe that the problem is in the nature of ICT users' mailing lists
    - the need to balance tolerance of varying levels of competency in the
    English language, with often bad grammar, and thence, wrongly expressed descriptions ("I have Debian <version> running on <software application name>"), with the need for accuracy, including, especially, of problem descriptions.

    Computers and software, including operating systems, are pedantic (other
    than AI, which produces too much garbage); humans are notsomuch, and,
    often lax in communication skills.

    So, many misinterpretations and misconstructions occur, needing accuracy
    in communications, to try to minimise wrongful outcomes.

    Otherwise, things can occur, like I observed, many years ago in a UNIX
    class, where a student entered the command
    chmod .
    .

    The consequences were not what was wanted.

    ..
    Bret Busby
    Armadale
    West Australia
    (UTC+0800)
    ..............

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Frank_Wei=C3=9Fer?=@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jul 3 20:20:01 2025
    not to forget (most?) Pocketbook> https://pocketbook.de/e-reader?gad_campaignid=22496675669

    devices! I myself chose InkPad 3 and am fine with it. But: I didn't
    find out how to work with the running linux. I only use it reading
    books, pdf and so on.

    didier gaumet:
    Le 03/07/2025 à 13:25, fxkl47BF@protonmail.com a écrit :
    [...]
    is there no dedicated reader device that can run a linux distro

    Hello,

    A minimal search on the web for "linux on <somedevice>" leads to:
    - for Kindle devices:
    https://github.com/schuhumi/alpine_kindle
    - for Kobo devices https://tuxphones.com/kobo-clara-e-book-ereader-linux-kernel-hack/

    I am sure there are others, I just stop searching after these results

    Buf if, by "dedicated", you mean an e-book reader device running a GNU/
    Linux distro out of the box, I am not aware of any.
    If the specs are more brad you may consider an android smartphone/tablet
    is a device running a Linux distro, you just have to install Calibre
    reader app, for instance...


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  • From Stefan Monnier@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jul 3 22:10:01 2025
    not to forget (most?) Pocketbook> https://pocketbook.de/e-reader?gad_campaignid=22496675669

    devices! I myself chose InkPad 3 and am fine with it. But: I didn't find
    out how to work with the running linux. I only use it reading books, pdf
    and so on.

    I can't find very definitive answer about the OS they're running.
    The seem to be using a Linux kernel, just like all the Android devices,
    but beyond that it's not clear what's running on it. It doesn't seem
    closer to Debian than your regular Android device.

    I vaguely remember someone posting a hack to install something like
    Debian on a "ReMarkable" tablet (a search for "installing debian on
    a remarkable tablet" might get you somewhere), but IIRC it was very much
    "proof of concept" rather than something usable.

    Of course, you can also take a regular Android device and install
    a normal GNU/Linux distro on it. The success depends mostly on how
    well that tablet's hardware is supported by the vanilla Linux kernel.

    There are some tablets sold directly with some GNU/Linux support, but
    they're rare. I know of:

    - [PineNote](https://pine64.org/devices/pinenote/).

    - [Librem 11](https://puri.sm/products/librem-11/).
    It's closer to a laptop than to an e-book reader, tho.

    - [Framework 12](https://frame.work/ca/en/laptop12).
    This one is a laptop, but can be used as a tablet.

    Both come from companies whose ethics seem a lot better aligned with
    Free Software than your regular tech company, so buying their products encourages further development in a more friendly direction.


    Stefan

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  • From fxkl47BF@protonmail.com@21:1/5 to Stefan Monnier on Thu Jul 3 23:00:01 2025
    On Thu, 3 Jul 2025, Stefan Monnier wrote:

    not to forget (most?) Pocketbook>
    https://pocketbook.de/e-reader?gad_campaignid=22496675669

    devices! I myself chose InkPad 3 and am fine with it. But: I didn't find
    out how to work with the running linux. I only use it reading books, pdf
    and so on.

    I can't find very definitive answer about the OS they're running.
    The seem to be using a Linux kernel, just like all the Android devices,
    but beyond that it's not clear what's running on it. It doesn't seem
    closer to Debian than your regular Android device.

    I vaguely remember someone posting a hack to install something like
    Debian on a "ReMarkable" tablet (a search for "installing debian on
    a remarkable tablet" might get you somewhere), but IIRC it was very much "proof of concept" rather than something usable.

    Of course, you can also take a regular Android device and install
    a normal GNU/Linux distro on it. The success depends mostly on how
    well that tablet's hardware is supported by the vanilla Linux kernel.

    There are some tablets sold directly with some GNU/Linux support, but
    they're rare. I know of:

    - [PineNote](https://pine64.org/devices/pinenote/).

    - [Librem 11](https://puri.sm/products/librem-11/).
    It's closer to a laptop than to an e-book reader, tho.

    - [Framework 12](https://frame.work/ca/en/laptop12).
    This one is a laptop, but can be used as a tablet.

    Both come from companies whose ethics seem a lot better aligned with
    Free Software than your regular tech company, so buying their products encourages further development in a more friendly direction.


    the pinenote looks interesting though a bit pricey
    the docs say there is a debian firmware available

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  • From Russell S.@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 6 00:40:01 2025
    There is also the Pine Tab or the Pine Note (e-ink) from Pine64 if they're in stock. I don't know what distro they run though. I think they are both just tablets, but the Pine Note has an e-ink display if that's what you're looking for.
    --
    this is my clever sig.

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