• Re: [reportbug][MacBook Pro] What package is for the trackpad?

    From Charles Curley@21:1/5 to Osama Albahrani on Mon Jul 28 05:50:01 2025
    On Mon, 28 Jul 2025 05:53:34 +0300
    Osama Albahrani <osalbahr@ncsu.edu> wrote:

    Dear Debian Users,

    Long story short, in the Debian 12 installer iso, beyond the initial
    boot screen, the trackpad/keyboard do not work on a 2017 MacBook Pro (Intel-based). However, they work with the GNOME live iso and I was
    then able to install just fine. But I'd like it if they worked in the installer iso.

    I went ahead and ran `reportbug` but was given a prompt asking which
    package has the bug, with a reference to this mailing list. What
    should the answer be for my situation? Should I simply answer
    "linux-base"?

    Answer "debian-installer".


    Also, is there a "beta" or "release candidate" for Debian 13 yet? I'd
    love to test out whether this issue persists.

    Yes. The current netinst weekly build is available at https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/amd64/iso-cd/ Go up a
    level if you prefer the DVD or some other format.

    Release candidate 2 is the most recent. https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/News/2025/20250702 https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/

    Thank you for testing this.

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  • From Osama Albahrani@21:1/5 to osalbahr@ncsu.edu on Mon Jul 28 05:30:01 2025
    Ok, I reviewed https://www.debian.org/Bugs/pseudo-packages and it seems
    like the proper package is "cdimage.debian.org".

    On Mon, Jul 28, 2025 at 5:53 AM Osama Albahrani <osalbahr@ncsu.edu> wrote:

    Dear Debian Users,

    Long story short, in the Debian 12 installer iso, beyond the initial boot screen, the trackpad/keyboard do not work on a 2017 MacBook Pro (Intel-based). However, they work with the GNOME live iso and I was then
    able to install just fine. But I'd like it if they worked in the installer iso.

    I went ahead and ran `reportbug` but was given a prompt asking which
    package has the bug, with a reference to this mailing list. What should the answer be for my situation? Should I simply answer "linux-base"?

    Also, is there a "beta" or "release candidate" for Debian 13 yet? I'd love
    to test out whether this issue persists.

    I have inquired about this issue in the user forums (pasted below) with no feedback. So I decided to file a bug report for this to be tracked. Especially with Debian 13 coming up soon. Hopefully this issue gets
    resolved with the upcoming release.

    ---

    Copied from https://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=163130:

    I am using a 2017 MacBook Pro (Intel-based), code: `MacBookPro14,1`. I noticed when booting into `debian-12.11.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso` that the
    trackpad does not work. The keyboard does not seem to work either after selecting "graphical installer".

    But the trackpad and keyboard work on
    `debian-live-12.11.0-amd64-gnome.iso`. So I am suspecting there are missing drivers.

    Why might there be missing drivers? And is there a way to include them in
    the installer just like in the live ISO in the next release?

    I am able to install from the live ISO, but it would be nice if I could
    use the default installer.

    I'd like to note that the same issue happens with the RHEL 10 and CentOS Stream 10 installer ISOs. But not Fedora, Ubuntu, or Arch Linux.

    Related forum post: https://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?p=744557

    ---

    It seems that the driver is `applespi`, which is included in the kernel
    since 5.3:

    The `applespi` driver for the internal keyboard and trackpad of the
    MacBookPro13,* and MacBookPro14,* is now included upstream and works out of the box. (https://github.com/torvalds/linux/commi ... e2332e07ff <https://github.com/torvalds/linux/commit/038b1a05eae6666b731920e46f47d8e2332e07ff>).
    The commit dates back to 2019.

    Source: https://github.com/Dunedan/mbp-2016-linux

    So, they should already be included in the kernel used by Debian 12, I presume. Idk for sure.

    The commit message mentions something about the SPI drivers needing to be loaded. So it might be that.

    Best,
    Osama


    <div dir="ltr">Ok, I reviewed <a href="https://www.debian.org/Bugs/pseudo-packages">https://www.debian.org/Bugs/pseudo-packages</a> and it seems like the proper package is &quot;<a href="http://cdimage.debian.org">cdimage.debian.org</a>&quot;.</div><br><
    div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jul 28, 2025 at 5:53 AM Osama Albahrani &lt;<a href="mailto:osalbahr@ncsu.edu">osalbahr@ncsu.edu</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="
    margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Dear Debian Users,</div><div><br></div><div>Long story short, in the Debian 12 installer iso, beyond the initial boot screen, the trackpad/keyboard do
    not work on a 2017 MacBook Pro (Intel-based). However, they work with the GNOME live iso and I was then able to install just fine. But I&#39;d like it if they worked in the installer iso.</div><div><br></div><div>I went ahead and ran `reportbug` but was
    given a prompt asking which package has the bug, with a reference to this mailing list. What should the answer be for my situation? Should I simply answer &quot;linux-base&quot;?</div><div><br></div><div>Also, is there a &quot;beta&quot; or &quot;
    release candidate&quot; for Debian 13 yet? I&#39;d love to test out whether this issue persists.</div><div><br></div><div><div>I have inquired about this issue in the user forums (pasted below)
    with no feedback. So I decided to file a bug report for this to be
    tracked. Especially with Debian 13 coming up soon. Hopefully this issue
    gets resolved with the upcoming release.</div><br></div><div>---</div><div><br></div><div>Copied from <a href="https://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=163130" target="_blank">https://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=163130</a>:</div><div><br></div><

    I am using a 2017 MacBook Pro (Intel-based), code: `MacBookPro14,1`. I
    noticed when booting into `debian-12.11.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso` that the
    trackpad does not work. The keyboard does not seem to work either after selecting &quot;graphical installer&quot;.<br>

    But the trackpad and keyboard work on `debian-live-12.11.0-amd64-gnome.iso`. So I am suspecting there are missing drivers.<br>

    Why might there be missing drivers? And is there a way to include them
    in the installer just like in the live ISO in the next release?<br>

    I am able to install from the live ISO, but it would be nice if I could use the default installer.<br>

    I&#39;d like to note that the same issue happens with the RHEL 10 and CentOS
    Stream 10 installer ISOs. But not Fedora, Ubuntu, or Arch Linux.<br>

    Related forum post: <a href="https://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?p=744557" target="_blank">https://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?p=744557</a></div><div><br></div><div>---</div><div><br></div><div><div>It seems that the driver is `applespi`, which
    is included in the kernel since 5.3:<br>

    &gt; The `applespi` driver for the internal keyboard and trackpad of the
    MacBookPro13,* and MacBookPro14,* is now included upstream and works
    out of the box. (<a href="https://github.com/torvalds/linux/commit/038b1a05eae6666b731920e46f47d8e2332e07ff" target="_blank">https://github.com/torvalds/linux/commi ... e2332e07ff</a>). The commit dates back to 2019.<br>

    Source: <a href="https://github.com/Dunedan/mbp-2016-linux" target="_blank">https://github.com/Dunedan/mbp-2016-linux</a><br>

    So, they should already be included in the kernel used by Debian 12, I presume. Idk for sure.<br>

    The commit message mentions something about the SPI drivers needing to be loaded. So it might be that.</div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div>Osama</div></div>
    </blockquote></div>

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  • From Osama Albahrani@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 28 05:20:01 2025
    Dear Debian Users,

    Long story short, in the Debian 12 installer iso, beyond the initial boot screen, the trackpad/keyboard do not work on a 2017 MacBook Pro
    (Intel-based). However, they work with the GNOME live iso and I was then
    able to install just fine. But I'd like it if they worked in the installer
    iso.

    I went ahead and ran `reportbug` but was given a prompt asking which
    package has the bug, with a reference to this mailing list. What should the answer be for my situation? Should I simply answer "linux-base"?

    Also, is there a "beta" or "release candidate" for Debian 13 yet? I'd love
    to test out whether this issue persists.

    I have inquired about this issue in the user forums (pasted below) with no feedback. So I decided to file a bug report for this to be tracked.
    Especially with Debian 13 coming up soon. Hopefully this issue gets
    resolved with the upcoming release.

    ---

    Copied from https://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=163130:

    I am using a 2017 MacBook Pro (Intel-based), code: `MacBookPro14,1`. I
    noticed when booting into `debian-12.11.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso` that the
    trackpad does not work. The keyboard does not seem to work either after selecting "graphical installer".

    But the trackpad and keyboard work on
    `debian-live-12.11.0-amd64-gnome.iso`. So I am suspecting there are missing drivers.

    Why might there be missing drivers? And is there a way to include them in
    the installer just like in the live ISO in the next release?

    I am able to install from the live ISO, but it would be nice if I could use
    the default installer.

    I'd like to note that the same issue happens with the RHEL 10 and CentOS
    Stream 10 installer ISOs. But not Fedora, Ubuntu, or Arch Linux.

    Related forum post: https://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?p=744557

    ---

    It seems that the driver is `applespi`, which is included in the kernel
    since 5.3:

    The `applespi` driver
  • From Osama Albahrani@21:1/5 to osalbahr@ncsu.edu on Mon Jul 28 05:50:01 2025
    Bug has been reported: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1110007.

    Those with a MacBookPro14,1 or a similar device, do the trackpad/keyboard
    work with the installer iso or did you need to use external devices (or the live media) to install Debian?

    On Mon, Jul 28, 2025 at 6:09 AM Osama Albahrani <osalbahr@ncsu.edu> wrote:

    Ok, I reviewed https://www.debian.org/Bugs/pseudo-packages and it seems
    like the proper package is "cdimage.debian.org".

    On Mon, Jul 28, 2025 at 5:53 AM Osama Albahrani <osalbahr@ncsu.edu> wrote:

    Dear Debian Users,

    Long story short, in the Debian 12 installer iso, beyond the initial boot
    screen, the trackpad/keyboard do not work on a 2017 MacBook Pro
    (Intel-based). However, they work with the GNOME live iso and I was then
    able to install just fine. But I'd like it if they worked in the installer >> iso.

    I went ahead and ran `reportbug` but was given a prompt asking which
    package has the bug, with a reference to this mailing list. What should the >> answer be for my situation? Should I simply answer "linux-base"?

    Also, is there a "beta" or "release candidate" for Debian 13 yet? I'd
    love to test out whether this issue persists.

    I have inquired about this issue in the user forums (pasted below) with
    no feedback. So I decided to file a bug report for this to be tracked.
    Especially with Debian 13 coming up soon. Hopefully this issue gets
    resolved with the upcoming release.

    ---

    Copied from https://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=163130:

    I am using a 2017 MacBook Pro (Intel-based), code: `MacBookPro14,1`. I
    noticed when booting into `debian-12.11.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso` that the
    trackpad does not work. The keyboard does not seem to work either after
    selecting "graphical installer".

    But the trackpad and keyboard work on
    `debian-live-12.11.0-amd64-gnome.iso`. So I am suspecting there are missing >> drivers.

    Why might there be missing drivers? And is there a way to include them in
    the installer just like in the live ISO in the next release?

    I am able to install from the live ISO, but it would be nice if I could
    use the default installer.

    I'd like to note that the same issue happens with the RHEL 10 and CentOS
    Stream 10 installer ISOs. But not Fedora, Ubuntu, or Arch Linux.

    Related forum post: https://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?p=744557

    ---

    It seems that the driver is `applespi`, which is included in the kernel
    since 5.3:

    The `applespi` driver for the internal keyboard and trackpad of the
    MacBookPro13,* and MacBookPro14,* is now included upstream and works out of >> the box. (https://github.com/torvalds/linux/commi ... e2332e07ff
    <https://github.com/torvalds/linux/commit/038b1a05eae6666b731920e46f47d8e2332e07ff>).
    The commit dates back to 2019.

    Source: https://github.com/Dunedan/mbp-2016-linux

    So, they should already be included in the kernel used by Debian 12, I
    presume. Idk for sure.

    The commit message mentions something about the SPI drivers needing to be
    loaded. So it might be that.

    Best,
    Osama



    <div dir="ltr"><div>Bug has been reported: <a href="https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1110007">https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1110007</a>.</div><div><br></div><div>Those with a MacBookPro14,1 or a similar device, do
    the trackpad/keyboard work with the installer iso or did you need to use external devices (or the live media) to install Debian?</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jul 28, 2025 at 6:09â€
    ¯AM Osama Albahrani &lt;<a href="mailto:osalbahr@ncsu.edu">osalbahr@ncsu.edu</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Ok, I reviewed <
    a href="https://www.debian.org/Bugs/pseudo-packages" target="_blank">https://www.debian.org/Bugs/pseudo-packages</a> and it seems like the proper package is &quot;<a href="http://cdimage.debian.org" target="_blank">cdimage.debian.org</a>&quot;.</div><br><
    div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jul 28, 2025 at 5:53 AM Osama Albahrani &lt;<a href="mailto:osalbahr@ncsu.edu" target="_blank">osalbahr@ncsu.edu</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px
    0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Dear Debian Users,</div><div><br></div><div>Long story short, in the Debian 12 installer iso, beyond the initial boot screen, the trackpad/keyboard do not work on
    a 2017 MacBook Pro (Intel-based). However, they work with the GNOME live iso and I was then able to install just fine. But I&#39;d like it if they worked in the installer iso.</div><div><br></div><div>I went ahead and ran `reportbug` but was given a
    prompt asking which package has the bug, with a reference to this mailing list. What should the answer be for my situation? Should I simply answer &quot;linux-base&quot;?</div><div><br></div><div>Also, is there a &quot;beta&quot; or &quot;release
    candidate&quot; for Debian 13 yet? I&#39;d love to test out whether this issue persists.</div><div><br></div><div><div>I have inquired about this issue in the user forums (pasted below)
    with no feedback. So I decided to file a bug report for this to be
    tracked. Especially with Debian 13 coming up soon. Hopefully this issue
    gets resolved with the upcoming release.</div><br></div><div>---</div><div><br></div><div>Copied from <a href="https://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=163130" target="_blank">https://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=163130</a>:</div><div><br></div><

    I am using a 2017 MacBook Pro (Intel-based), code: `MacBookPro14,1`. I
    noticed when booting into `debian-12.11.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso` that the
    trackpad does not work. The keyboard does not seem to work either after selecting &quot;graphical installer&quot;.<br>

    But the trackpad and keyboard work on `debian-live-12.11.0-amd64-gnome.iso`. So I am suspecting there are missing drivers.<br>

    Why might there be missing drivers? And is there a way to include them
    in the installer just like in the live ISO in the next release?<br>

    I am able to install from the live ISO, but it would be nice if I could use the default installer.<br>

    I&#39;d like to note that the same issue happens with the RHEL 10 and CentOS
    Stream 10 installer ISOs. But not Fedora, Ubuntu, or Arch Linux.<br>

    Related forum post: <a href="https://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?p=744557" target="_blank">https://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?p=744557</a></div><div><br></div><div>---</div><div><br></div><div><div>It seems that the driver is `applespi`, which
    is included in the kernel since 5.3:<br>

    &gt; The `applespi` driver for the internal keyboard and trackpad of the
    MacBookPro13,* and MacBookPro14,* is now included upstream and works
    out of the box. (<a href="https://github.com/torvalds/linux/commit/038b1a05eae6666b731920e46f47d8e2332e07ff" target="_blank">https://github.com/torvalds/linux/commi ... e2332e07ff</a>). The commit dates back to 2019.<br>

    Source: <a href="https://github.com/Dunedan/mbp-2016-linux" target="_blank">https://github.com/Dunedan/mbp-2016-linux</a><br>

    So, they should already be included in the kernel used by Debian 12, I presume. Idk for sure.<br>

    The commit message mentions something about the SPI drivers needing to be loaded. So it might be that.</div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div>Osama</div></div>
    </blockquote></div>
    </blockquote></div>

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