Hi,
On Mon, Jul 28, 2025 at 04:04:12PM -0000, Greg wrote:
On 2025-07-28, Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> wrote:
It really depends on what you're looking for.
I don't need support, and in the rare case I do, don't ask questions here.
I use a search engine and usually find an answer to my query on stack exchange, or reddit, or somewhere else, but *never* in the debian-list archives, which are, let's face it, a real jack-off city in spades, with these gargantuan threads that diverge tangentially, persisting long,
long after any imaginable utility for anyone, the potential nugget of
useful information drowned in the hubris and senility of the regulars,
the mutt users, the gnus users, the non-desktop environment users, these fellow-travelers of that fat slob Stallman et. al., those living
definitions of toxic masculinity, not one woman among them, to be sure,
not one. None. Not a single, single one. Which should tell you
something of significance.
I started off with a degree of sympathy for what you were saying, but
you haven't managed to talk about what it is you DO want, only about
what you DON'T want.
If your every contribution here is negative, can you not see how that in
itself can only add to the overall negative environment that you
describe here?
You describe what you see as a group of people doing things that are
overall harmful purely because they derive pleasure from it for their
own selfish reasons. Have a read back of your own contributions to this
thread. Do they help? Are they in any way distinguishable from what you complain about?
I think one of the keys to why what you describe is never going to
change is that every person you criticise are themselves thinking they
are posting something that others will want to read, just as you are, presumably. You say that threads, "[persist] long, long after any
imaginable utility for anyone" yet seem not to recognise that every
person writing those posts thought, as you did here, that what they were writing had some utility.
This place will not change, so you have a future of writing the above
sort of messages, forever, just as all the people you complain about are
going to do, unless someone changes their own situation.
All any of us can do is choose where to spend our time. Eventually if
you just keep complaining everyone will assume that is an ingrained part
of your character just like the way you describe other posters here.
Thanks,
Andy
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