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--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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On Wed, Sep 18, 2024 at 06:21:42PM +0800, YOYO wrote:

Hello everyone,
Recently I bought a Gigabyte MP30-AR0 (rev 1.1) motherboard in a online second-hand market. But I encountered a lot of difficulties when installing Debian 12 arm64 on it.

I've tried the official system image (Ubantu 14.02) provided by Gigabyte first.
But after I flashed the image to USB storage using Win32DiskImaginer,
I couldn't see any Partition using the newest Diskgenius, which had already support Ext2/3/4.
(Actually I couldn't see any partition when I load the img
file in Diskgenius as a Virtual Disk either.)

Then I turned to Debian 12.I've tried "debian-12.7.0-arm64-DVD-1.iso", flashing it to USB storage using UltraISO 9. However, I couldn't boot from the
USB storage under u-Boot at all. Actually, I have no idea about how to manually select boot device and boot from the Debian install CD/DVD imagine in u-Boot.

Finally, I tried to install Debian using the built-in linux X-Gene
(Applied Micro Linux), following the instructions on https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/arm64/apds03.en.html,
but there's no ar availiable on X-Gene. After getting a aarch64 gnu tool-chain,
I installed debootstrap successfully. But error occurs again and it turns out that debootstrap needs perl to run. With no package manager (like dpkg, apt, yum) or compile toolchain (including make, cmake and etc.), I don't know if there's any way I can install Debian 12 on the Gigabyte MP30-AR0.

I know there are alreadly plenty mails in Debian Mailing List, but they all focused on Gigabyte MP30-AR1, which is in UEFI boot mode, but the MP30-AR0
I have works in u-Boot mode. I've tried all the ways for MP30-AR1, but none of
them worked on my MP30-AR0.

Thank you again for your generous help.

I have seen some people have managed to convert their AR0 to UEFI. As far
as I can tell the uboot version is completely useless at this point.

https://rwmj.wordpress.com/2016/03/08/gigabyte-mp30-ar0-flashing-uefi/

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W dniu 18.09.2024 o 15:41, YOYO pisze:

So, you mean that u-Boot is almost useless on this motherboard?

Yes.

It really sounds strange, is it because of u-Boot's poor compatibility?

No. This is server board and it would be easier to use with (even such
old) UEFI than with that ancient U-Boot build.

But I've seen many DIYers using u-Boot on their ARM-Linux demo boards.

There is a difference between using 2020+ U-Boot with proper
configuration and using 2013 one where you have to adapt to it's
configuration.

(Though I know UEFI definitely has a better compatibility on PC and
servers.)

It allows you to treat this system more like you would do with PC.


BTW: how much do you paid for it? I am curious.

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So, you mean that u-Boot is almost useless on this motherboard?
It really sounds strange, is it because of u-Boot's poor compatibility?
But I've seen many DIYers using u-Boot on their ARM-Linux demo boards. (Though I know UEFI definitely has a better compatibility on PC and
servers.)

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*From:* "Lennart Sorensen" <lsorense@csclub.uwaterloo.ca>;
*Date:* Wed, Sep 18, 2024 09:16 PM
*To:* "YOYO"<1530974299@qq.com>; *Cc:* "debian-arm"<debian-arm@lists.debian.org>;
*Subject:* Re: Problems about installing Debian on Arm64

I have a working AR0, UEFI is installed and can be reverted if necessary
but using u-bootrather than UEFI I lost some features such as one of the
10gig ports and the internal sdcard slot.

--
Michael Howard.

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<div>So, you mean that u-Boot is almost useless on this
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<div>It really sounds strange, is it because of u-Boot's poor
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<div>But I've seen many DIYers using u-Boot on their ARM-Linux
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<div><b>Cc:</b> "debian-arm"<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:debian-arm@lists.debian.org">&lt;debian-arm@lists.debian.org&gt;</a>;<wbr></div>
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I have a working AR0, UEFI is installed and can be reverted if
necessary but using u-bootrather than UEFI I lost some features such
as one of the 10gig ports and the internal sdcard slot.<br>
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It seems it a ideal idea to switch from u-Boot to UEFI on AR0.
Would you please share about how you install UEFI and how to revert to
u-Boot when needed? I've found some tutorials, but the urls of the UEFI firmware seemed to be invalid.

I can't be of much help I'm afraid as it was a long time ago and I just
used the information and files available on the net at the time. I'm not
at home at the moment but when I am I will see if I still have the
relevant files, if nobody else chirps up before then. It will be a long
shot though.

--
Michael Howard.

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On Wed, Sep 18, 2024 at 05:30:35PM +0100, Michael Howard wrote:

On 18/09/2024 16:38, YOYO wrote:

It seems it a ideal idea to switch from u-Boot to UEFI on AR0.
Would you please share about how you install UEFI and how to revert to 
u-Boot when needed? I've found some tutorials, but the urls of the UEFI 
firmware seemed to be invalid.

I can't be of much help I'm afraid as it was a long time ago and I just used >the information and files available on the net at the time. I'm not at home at >the moment but when I am I will see if I still have the relevant files, if >nobody else chirps up before then. It will be a long shot though.

I've got the files needed for switching the APM Mustang here at

https://www.einval.com/mustang/easy-uefi/

The instructions are for APM's own Mustang dev board - the Gigabyte
AR0 might be compatible here or it might be different, be careful!

--
Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK. steve@einval.com Can't keep my eyes from the circling sky,
Tongue-tied & twisted, Just an earth-bound misfit, I...

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On 18/09/2024 18:29, Steve McIntyre wrote:

On Wed, Sep 18, 2024 at 05:30:35PM +0100, Michael Howard wrote:

On 18/09/2024 16:38, YOYO wrote:

It seems it a ideal idea to switch from u-Boot to UEFI on AR0.
Would you please share about how you install UEFI and how to revert to >> u-Boot when needed? I've found some tutorials, but the urls of the UEFI >> firmware seemed to be invalid.

I can't be of much help I'm afraid as it was a long time ago and I just used >> the information and files available on the net at the time. I'm not at home at
the moment but when I am I will see if I still have the relevant files, if >> nobody else chirps up before then. It will be a long shot though.

I've got the files needed for switching the APM Mustang here at

https://www.einval.com/mustang/easy-uefi/

The instructions are for APM's own Mustang dev board - the Gigabyte
AR0 might be compatible here or it might be different, be careful!

So, the uefi image needed at the time was 'mp30ar0_tianocore_media.img'
which was provided by Phong Vo,  in the archive mp30ar0_tianocore_binaries.tar.xz. I do still have the file.

The basic process was;

a) Place mp30ar0_tianocore_media.img on a TFTP server as `mp30ar0/mp30ar0_tianocore_media.img'.
b) Within u-boot run thr following;

  setenv ipaddr xx.xx.xx.xx    # server's own IP address
  setenv serverip yy.yy.yy.yy  # IP address of TFTP server
  setenv media_img mp30ar0_tianocore_media.img
  run spi_load                 # check this command succeeds
  run spi_update
  reset

I think that the above instructions rely upon 'user_dir' being set to 'mp30ar0'.

Obviously, as Steve says, be careful.

--
Michael Howard.

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On Wed, Sep 18, 2024 at 09:41:06PM +0800, YOYO wrote:

So, you mean that u-Boot is almost useless on this motherboard?&nbsp;
It really sounds strange, is it because of u-Boot's poor compatibility?
But I've seen many DIYers using u-Boot on their ARM-Linux demo boards. (Though I know UEFI definitely has a better compatibility on PC and servers.)

Based on what I have read it seems the uboot settings were poorly chosen
on this board causing boot issues with newer kernels, and of course you
need a dtb when booting from uboot, while UEFI can provide the data in
a supported format instead. UEFI just makes for a much better aarch64
system. Much better compatibility.

Essentially the difference between the AR0 and AR1 is that one is a 10
year old unsupported proprietary system and the other is a 10 year old standards compliant system.

--
Len Sorensen

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