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  • Bug#1092550: procps: Addback/Provide example of sysctl.d/*.conf like th

    From Ben Hutchings@1:229/2 to All on Sun May 25 18:30:01 2025
    XPost: linux.debian.bugs.dist
    From: ben@decadent.org.uk

    On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 16:23:32 +1100 Craig Small <csmall@debian.org>
    wrote:
    reassign -1 linux-sysctl-defaults
    thankyou

    The procps package doesn't carry any of the sysctl configuration files anymore, but they're in the linux-sysctl-defaults
    so reassigning to that package.
    [...]

    linux-sysctl-defaults is meant to provide defaults only. Therefore I
    don't think it is appropriate to add that example/template to it.

    What is the problem with keeping an example in procps?

    Ben.

    --
    Ben Hutchings
    Teamwork is essential - it allows you to blame someone else.

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  • From Craig Small@1:229/2 to Ben Hutchings on Mon May 26 12:30:01 2025
    XPost: linux.debian.bugs.dist
    From: csmall@debian.org

    On Mon, 26 May 2025 at 02:05, Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk> wrote:

    linux-sysctl-defaults is meant to provide defaults only. Therefore I
    don't think it is appropriate to add that example/template to it.

    What is the problem with keeping an example in procps?

    I can do that, but on a standard Debian system you're not even using the
    procps sysctl to do the parsing as it is systemd-sysctl in the systemd
    package doing it.

    It's not going to hurt putting it there, I'm just not sure anyone is going
    to find it because the
    only reason for an example sysctl file is historical.

    - Craig

    <div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">On Mon, 26 May 2025 at 02:05, Ben Hutchings &lt;<a href="mailto:ben@decadent.org.uk">ben@decadent.org.uk</a>&gt; wrote:</div><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px
    0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">linux-sysctl-defaults is meant to provide defaults only.  Therefore I<br>
    don&#39;t think it is appropriate to add that example/template to it.<br>

    What is the problem with keeping an example in procps?<br></blockquote><div>I can do that, but on a standard Debian system you&#39;re not even using the </div><div>procps sysctl to do the parsing as it is systemd-sysctl in the systemd package doing it.</
    <div><br></div><div>It&#39;s not going to hurt putting it there, I&#39;m just not sure anyone is going to find it because the</div><div>only reason for an example sysctl file is historical.<br></div><div><br></div><div> - Craig</div><br></div></div>

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  • From Craig Small@1:229/2 to Ben Hutchings on Wed May 28 23:30:01 2025
    XPost: linux.debian.bugs.dist
    From: csmall@debian.org

    reassign -1 procps
    thankyou

    On Thu, 29 May 2025 at 06:33, Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk> wrote:

    I think system administrators looking to experiment with sysctl changes
    are more likely to reaach for procps and the sysctl command, because:

    - sysctl is on the path while systemd-sysctl isn't
    - "apt search sysctl" finds procps and not systemd
    - A web search for "linux sysctl examples" finds mostly pages mentioning
    the sysctl command

    That seems fair enough, I'll put them into procps.

    - Craig

    <div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">reassign -1 procps<br>thankyou</div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 29 May 2025 at 06:33, Ben Hutchings &lt;<a href="mailto:ben@decadent.org.uk">ben@decadent.org.
    uk</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
    I think system administrators looking to experiment with sysctl changes<br>
    are more likely to reaach for procps and the sysctl command, because:<br>

    - sysctl is on the path while systemd-sysctl isn&#39;t<br>
    - &quot;apt search sysctl&quot; finds procps and not systemd<br>
    - A web search for &quot;linux sysctl examples&quot; finds mostly pages mentioning<br>
    the sysctl command<br></blockquote><div>That seems fair enough, I&#39;ll put them into procps.</div><div><br></div><div> - Craig</div><br></div></div>

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  • From Ben Hutchings@1:229/2 to Craig Small on Wed May 28 22:40:01 2025
    XPost: linux.debian.bugs.dist
    From: ben@decadent.org.uk

    On Mon, 2025-05-26 at 20:13 +1000, Craig Small wrote:
    On Mon, 26 May 2025 at 02:05, Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk> wrote:
    linux-sysctl-defaults is meant to provide defaults only.  Therefore I don't think it is appropriate to add that example/template to it.

    What is the problem with keeping an example in procps?


    I can do that, but on a standard Debian system you're not even using the  procps sysctl to do the parsing as it is systemd-sysctl in the systemd package doing it.

    I'm well aware of that.

    It's not going to hurt putting it there, I'm just not sure anyone is going to find it because the
    only reason for an example sysctl file is historical.

    I think system administrators looking to experiment with sysctl changes
    are more likely to reaach for procps and the sysctl command, because:

    - sysctl is on the path while systemd-sysctl isn't
    - "apt search sysctl" finds procps and not systemd
    - A web search for "linux sysctl examples" finds mostly pages mentioning
    the sysctl command

    Ben.

    --
    Ben Hutchings
    Always try to do things in chronological order;
    it's less confusing that way.

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