• 3.5mm jacks (was Re: [gentoo-user] Bluetooth speakers)

    From karl@aspodata.se@21:1/5 to All on Tue May 10 12:40:01 2022
    Michael:
    ...
    Jacks have a TS, or TRS, TRRS, or TRRRS contacts arrangement, depending on the
    connectivity they are meant to offer - mono, stereo, stereo+mic and whether this is balanced or unbalanced.
    ...

    I have an old laptop (Thinkpad T61p [1]) with a stereo and
    microphone jack, both 3.5mm.

    How do one know if it is a TRS or TRRS variant without opening the
    case ?

    Maybe it is a trrs jack since when I inserts a trs cable (to speaker)
    the ouput sound whines a lot, mostly masking the intended sound.

    I found some specs in [2] and [3].

    Regards,
    /Karl Hammar

    [1] https://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:T61p
    [2] https://www.headphonesty.com/2019/04/headphone-jacks-plugs-explained/
    [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phone_connector_(audio)

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  • From Michael@21:1/5 to karl@aspodata.se on Tue May 10 11:59:28 2022
    On Tuesday, 10 May 2022 11:29:51 BST karl@aspodata.se wrote:
    Michael:
    ...

    Jacks have a TS, or TRS, TRRS, or TRRRS contacts arrangement, depending on the connectivity they are meant to offer - mono, stereo, stereo+mic and whether this is balanced or unbalanced.

    ...

    I have an old laptop (Thinkpad T61p [1]) with a stereo and
    microphone jack, both 3.5mm.

    How do one know if it is a TRS or TRRS variant without opening the
    case ?

    Maybe it is a trrs jack since when I inserts a trs cable (to speaker)
    the ouput sound whines a lot, mostly masking the intended sound.

    I found some specs in [2] and [3].

    Regards,
    /Karl Hammar

    [1] https://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:T61p
    [2] https://www.headphonesty.com/2019/04/headphone-jacks-plugs-explained/
    [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phone_connector_(audio)

    I'm not familiar with the specifics of your laptop. It is a matter of digging through spec sheets to find out, or opening up the case, but often the socket is enclosed in a plastic molding. Checking part numbers may reveal what the contacts arrangement is.

    If you're only getting one channel audio or noise/distortion, after the jack has been inserted fully, then it is likely you have a mismatch between the
    jack & socket contacts. In all likelihood you have a TRRS line-out for stereo earphones and perhaps a TRS line-in for mic mono.

    Sadly there is a historical mismatch between different manufacturers' pin arrangements, especially so with camcorders and old portable DVD players (remember those?!) So there's no guarantee some mic or earphones released by one manufacturer will always work with other devices. The contacts look the same, but the ground and live connections could be reversed. With PCs the contacts tend to be more standardised.
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