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  • [gentoo-user] chromium shortcuts?

    From Jorge Almeida@21:1/5 to All on Sun May 29 22:50:01 2022
    I've been using google-chrome, mainly because I assume, maybe wrongly,
    that it means less hassle regarding codecs and such. But I'm out of
    patience regarding the undocumented, uncustomizable, obnoxious,
    invasive keyboard shortcuts/mouse gestures. So, I decided to try
    chromium (-bin, for now), in the hope that it would be more
    user-respectful.
    Until now, no improvement. (Note that I symlinked
    ~/.config/chromium-bin to ~/.config/google-chrome, otherwise I would
    lose all bookmarks. Maybe it was a bad idea?)
    So, is there a way to get rid of this, ahem, stuff? Ideally, I would remove/edit some shortcuts, but I would settle for trashing it all. Is
    this an unwinnable fight? (And is the dichotomy chromium-chrome
    relevant at all?)

    Jorge Almeida

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  • From wkuz@op.pl@21:1/5 to All on Sun May 29 23:00:01 2022
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  • From Jorge Almeida@21:1/5 to wkuz@op.pl on Sun May 29 23:20:01 2022
    On Sun, May 29, 2022 at 9:56 PM wkuz@op.pl <wkuz@op.pl> wrote:

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    Dnia 2022-05-29, o godz. 21:49:21
    Jorge Almeida <jjalmeida@gmail.com> napisał(a):

    So, is there a way to get rid of this, ahem, stuff? Ideally, I would remove/edit some shortcuts, but I would settle for trashing it all. Is
    this an unwinnable fight? (And is the dichotomy chromium-chrome
    relevant at all?)

    Jorge Almeida


    I'm not sure, but as far as I know the differences between
    google-chrome and chromium are more about "the amount of Google" in the browser not the overall idea behind it (so probably shortcuts will be
    the same).

    I suppose... I just hoped that the refuse to allow users any freedom
    would be part of that "amount of Google"...

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  • From Jorge Almeida@21:1/5 to wkuz@op.pl on Sun May 29 23:30:01 2022
    On Sun, May 29, 2022 at 10:16 PM wkuz@op.pl <wkuz@op.pl> wrote:

    If non-free software is not of any concern for you, then maybe try
    Vivaldi browser? It is based on the same engine and feels quite like
    chromium but with many many more options (USE=widevine for netflix ;) )

    I have no concerns regarding licensing et al., but I once tried
    Vivaldi and was not impressed (I don't remember why). I'm into chrom*
    only because it provides a smooth experience re youtube & gmail. I
    don't think other browsers can do it, but I wouldn't mind being wrong.

    BTW: chromium also has a "widevine" flag. I don't know how much time
    does it take to compile chromium nowadays, but I don't have netflix
    anyway :(

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  • From wkuz@op.pl@21:1/5 to All on Sun May 29 23:40:01 2022
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  • From Jorge Almeida@21:1/5 to wkuz@op.pl on Sun May 29 23:40:01 2022
    On Sun, May 29, 2022 at 10:33 PM wkuz@op.pl <wkuz@op.pl> wrote:

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    Dnia 2022-05-29, o godz. 22:25:53
    Jorge Almeida <jjalmeida@gmail.com> napisał(a):

    On Sun, May 29, 2022 at 10:16 PM wkuz@op.pl <wkuz@op.pl> wrote:



    Maybe take a look here: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/List_of_applications#Web_browsers
    Not all of them have ebuilds, but most of them do.
    I hope you'll find something that suits your needs :)

    I suppose this means I can't simply remove the shortcuts from
    chromium... (<SIGH>)

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  • From wkuz@op.pl@21:1/5 to All on Sun May 29 23:50:01 2022
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  • From Neil Bothwick@21:1/5 to Jorge Almeida on Sun May 29 23:50:01 2022
    On Sun, 29 May 2022 21:49:21 +0100, Jorge Almeida wrote:

    I've been using google-chrome, mainly because I assume, maybe wrongly,
    that it means less hassle regarding codecs and such. But I'm out of
    patience regarding the undocumented, uncustomizable, obnoxious,
    invasive keyboard shortcuts/mouse gestures. So, I decided to try
    chromium (-bin, for now), in the hope that it would be more
    user-respectful.
    Until now, no improvement. (Note that I symlinked
    ~/.config/chromium-bin to ~/.config/google-chrome, otherwise I would
    lose all bookmarks. Maybe it was a bad idea?)

    Why not export the bookmarks then re-import them? That way you can start
    with a clean config.


    --
    Neil Bothwick

    Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle: The location of all objects cannot be
    known simultaneously. Corollary: If a lost thing is found, something else
    will disappear.

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  • From Jorge Almeida@21:1/5 to wkuz@op.pl on Mon May 30 00:10:01 2022
    On Sun, May 29, 2022 at 10:47 PM wkuz@op.pl <wkuz@op.pl> wrote:


    New Hope! I've found this: https://btechgeeks.com/change-chrome-keyboard-shortcuts/

    It seems that the "Shortcut manager" extension doesn't exist any more.
    It was supposed to allow editing the "default" shortcuts, something
    most pages say it's not possible.

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  • From wkuz@op.pl@21:1/5 to All on Sun May 29 23:20:01 2022
    If non-free software is not of any concern for you, then maybe try
    Vivaldi browser? It is based on the same engine and feels quite like
    chromium but with many many more options (USE=widevine for netflix ;) )

    --
    xWK

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  • From Jorge Almeida@21:1/5 to neil@digimed.co.uk on Mon May 30 00:20:01 2022
    On Sun, May 29, 2022 at 10:48 PM Neil Bothwick <neil@digimed.co.uk> wrote:

    On Sun, 29 May 2022 21:49:21 +0100, Jorge Almeida wrote:


    Until now, no improvement. (Note that I symlinked
    ~/.config/chromium-bin to ~/.config/google-chrome, otherwise I would
    lose all bookmarks. Maybe it was a bad idea?)

    Why not export the bookmarks then re-import them? That way you can start
    with a clean config.

    I don't know how to do that (I'm talking about several itens in the
    bookmarks bar, not a single menu with several links). But I'll try a
    clean config anyway, the bookmark issue can be dealt with later.

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  • From Jorge Almeida@21:1/5 to neil@digimed.co.uk on Mon May 30 09:30:01 2022
    On Mon, May 30, 2022 at 8:19 AM Neil Bothwick <neil@digimed.co.uk> wrote:


    I don't know how to do that (I'm talking about several itens in the bookmarks bar, not a single menu with several links). But I'll try a
    clean config anyway, the bookmark issue can be dealt with later.

    There are import and export options in the Bookmarks Manager menu.

    Got it. But I already tried a clean start and still no way to edit shortcuts...


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  • From Neil Bothwick@21:1/5 to Jorge Almeida on Mon May 30 09:20:01 2022
    On Sun, 29 May 2022 23:10:16 +0100, Jorge Almeida wrote:

    Why not export the bookmarks then re-import them? That way you can
    start with a clean config.

    I don't know how to do that (I'm talking about several itens in the
    bookmarks bar, not a single menu with several links). But I'll try a
    clean config anyway, the bookmark issue can be dealt with later.

    There are import and export options in the Bookmarks Manager menu.


    --
    Neil Bothwick

    Experience is directly proportional to the value of equipment destroyed.

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  • From Jorge Almeida@21:1/5 to lperkins@openeye.net on Wed Jun 1 00:20:01 2022
    On Tue, May 31, 2022 at 11:06 PM Laurence Perkins <lperkins@openeye.net> wrote:

    Compile time for Chromium currently seems to run about four hours on an i7-9700.

    Well, that does it, then. chromium-bin is good enough, I think. But of
    course, the problem of obnoxious shortcuts remains...


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