• [gentoo-user] mailing list problem: changing subscription type

    From Madhu@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 30 04:10:01 2022
    I had subscribed to gentoo-user on 2022-05-25, and posted a message on
    that date.

    I then wished to change my subscription to no-mail delivery. The
    instructions I received after sending a message to gentoo-user+help@lists.gentoo.org indicated I could do this by sending
    a message to gentoo-user+subscribe-nomail@lists.gentoo.org, which I
    did. and I got a response saying

    "Thank you for confirming your subscription. You have now been added to the no-mail version of the list."

    However the email address is still receiving messages from the
    list. Apparently my email is subscribed on two lists - the mail
    version and the non-mail version, and there doesn't seem to be any way
    to unsubscribe only from the mail-version while remaining on the
    latter.

    I wanted to mention this as a possible problem with the mailing list
    software.

    Could I request the list owner to make sure I remain subscribed to the
    the list while not receiving copies in the mail?

    Thanks
    ---Madhu

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  • From Robin H. Johnson@21:1/5 to Madhu on Mon May 30 07:10:01 2022
    (Replying as listowner, but I'm also on the nomail version of
    gentoo-user, please CC to gentoo-user+owner@lists.gentoo.org or to me
    directly for most mail)

    On Mon, May 30, 2022 at 07:35:20AM +0530, Madhu wrote:
    I had subscribed to gentoo-user on 2022-05-25, and posted a message on
    that date.

    I then wished to change my subscription to no-mail delivery. The
    instructions I received after sending a message to gentoo-user+help@lists.gentoo.org indicated I could do this by sending
    a message to gentoo-user+subscribe-nomail@lists.gentoo.org, which I
    did. and I got a response saying

    "Thank you for confirming your subscription. You have now been added to the no-mail version of the list."

    However the email address is still receiving messages from the
    list. Apparently my email is subscribed on two lists - the mail
    version and the non-mail version, and there doesn't seem to be any way
    to unsubscribe only from the mail-version while remaining on the
    latter.
    ...
    Could I request the list owner to make sure I remain subscribed to the
    the list while not receiving copies in the mail?
    I don't see any requests to unsubscribe from the regular version of the
    list.

    The regular/digest/nomail subscriptions are entirely independent.

    Just subscribing to the nomail version of the list does not impact your
    other subscriptions at all.

    Did some part of the documentation make you think it would impact the subscription?

    Regardless, how do you feel the documentation could improve to make it
    clear that they are separate.

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  • From Madhu@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 30 10:40:01 2022
    * "Robin H. Johnson" <robbat2-20220530T050223-944166244Z @orbis-terrarum.net> : Wrote on Mon, 30 May 2022 05:08:48 +0000:
    Could I request the list owner to make sure I remain subscribed to the
    the list while not receiving copies in the mail?
    I don't see any requests to unsubscribe from the regular version of the
    list.

    The regular/digest/nomail subscriptions are entirely independent.

    Thanks. I was missing this piece of information. The confirmation
    message I received after subscribing to gentoo-user+subscribe-nomail
    had the following text:

    #+begin_quote
    If you ever wish to unsubscribe, send a message to <gentoo-user+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> using this email address. The subject and the body of the message can be anything. You will then receive confirmation or further instructions.
    #+end_quote

    Since only one unsubscribe address - presumably for the regular
    subscription - was indicated, I assumed there was only one account per
    email (ala mailman) with options set on the account. So I assumed if I unsubscribed at this address I would remove myself from the list and
    the ability to post to it.

    Just subscribing to the nomail version of the list does not impact your
    other subscriptions at all.

    Did some part of the documentation make you think it would impact the subscription?

    Regardless, how do you feel the documentation could improve to make it
    clear that they are separate.

    Perhaps the unsubscribe instructions on joining the digest and nomail
    lists should indicate addresses like <gentoo-user+unsubscribe-nomail@lists.gentoo.org>

    If that is how it is to be done. (I haven't tried sending mail to gentoo-user+help-nomail@. I believe I'm off the regular list now,
    Thanks!) ---Madhu

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