• [gentoo-user] *sob*

    From Alan Grimes@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 12 06:50:01 2022
    I hate linux.

    Yeah, I know I know. First mofo to argue with me about the above gets a
    free ounce of lead, express delivery.


    All of the followning statemens are true:

    1. I am never not running seamonkey, it is always open at all times on
    my left hand monitor, If at any point it was not on my left hand monitor
    either I must have been going through a power failure or something had
    broken it, because it is working at the moment I have decided not to use
    emerge update for the next six months, two months in to that period at
    this point.

    2. Seamonkey is my default browser.

    3. Seamonkey cannot be launched twice, ie it cannot be launched on my
    right hand monitor because the monitors are using separte X servers and
    it would need to be launched twice to come up on that monitor.

    4. many applications that I run on my right hand monitor try to launch
    my default browser which always reports an error message because it is
    already running on a different monitor.


    Therefore I need to obliterate the concept of a default web browser from
    my machine.

    All the stuff about default web browsers on goog is from different
    distros. If I copy and paste the commands I get various obscure error
    messages.

    The only thing that seems to know how the default web browser was set is
    a thing called "XDG" or "Xdg-config"

    The manual page for xdg-config is criminally sparse. The author clearely couldn't conceive that anyone would ever want to remove any setting for
    any reason, especially not the holy default web browser, or set it to a
    blank or default state...

    I found that xdg had set a bunch of environment variables, and utilizes
    data dilectories in every corner of my system. The hundreds of
    individual files it uses don't have anything so obvious as

     <DEFAULT APPS>
    <Web Browser>seamonkey.desktop </web browser>
    </default apps>

    Dear god! The user might try to manage his settings without the obscure UNDOCUMENTED, crappy application we penguinoids think he should use it. Instead, we need to come up with the most obscure, convoluted,
    spaghetti-ized, obfuscated, arcane, and archaic design we can think of
    to make sure the user never EVER gets control of his own system.

    It feels like a metastatized cancer. It looks like it's intertwined with
    as much of my system as possible. My home directory is incohprehensibly
    stale, it has garbage that was left there fifteen years ago.

    It looks like most of it is hiding among my steam games in
    .local/share/  Most of the stuff in there is garbage from 2014, some
    active files tho.

    Only a penguin could invent a system this difficult for the user to
    inspect and control.

    Even after deleting the files xdg-settings still cheerfully reports my
    default web browser is seamonkey,

    NO YOU MTOHERFUCKER , NO DEFAULT, NO WEB , NO MOTHERFUCKING BROWSER, AND
    NO SEAMONKEY!!! NONE OF IT YOU MOTHERFUCKKING MOTHERFUCKER AND BURN IN
    HELL TO EVERYONE RESPONSIBLE FOR XDG!!

    --
    Beware of Zombies. =O
    #EggCrisis #BlackWinter
    White is the new Kulak.
    Powers are not rights.

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  • From Michael@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 12 10:02:31 2022
    On Sunday, 12 June 2022 05:42:56 BST Alan Grimes wrote:
    [snip ...]

    All of the followning statemens are true:

    1. I am never not running seamonkey, it is always open at all times on
    my left hand monitor, If at any point it was not on my left hand monitor either I must have been going through a power failure or something had
    broken it, because it is working at the moment I have decided not to use emerge update for the next six months, two months in to that period at
    this point.

    2. Seamonkey is my default browser.

    3. Seamonkey cannot be launched twice, ie it cannot be launched on my
    right hand monitor because the monitors are using separte X servers and
    it would need to be launched twice to come up on that monitor.

    Does a new web browser instance/window/tab have to come up in your RH monitor?


    4. many applications that I run on my right hand monitor try to launch
    my default browser which always reports an error message because it is already running on a different monitor.


    Therefore I need to obliterate the concept of a default web browser from
    my machine.

    I can think of a couple of options here instead of unsetting a default
    browser, but I don't know how you may have configured your desktop environment:

    1. You could set up a different default web browser. Take a look at 'man xdg-settings' or for a primer check https://specifications.freedesktop.org/ basedir-spec/basedir-spec-latest.html. You'll still run seamonkey as you do anyway, all you'll use the default browser is for other applications to launch ad-hoc.

    2. You could create a customized .desktop file for your seamonkey browser in your ~/.local/share/applications/ by copying the relevant .desktop file from / usr/share/applications/ and changing any sections in it, like [Desktop Action new-window], or [Desktop Action new-tab]. This will open a new window or tab in the same instance of the already running seamonkey.

    Others may know of different ways to achieve the same.


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  • From Neil Bothwick@21:1/5 to Alan Grimes on Sun Jun 12 13:30:01 2022
    On Sun, 12 Jun 2022 00:42:56 -0400, Alan Grimes wrote:

    All of the followning statemens are true:

    1. I am never not running seamonkey, it is always open at all times on
    my left hand monitor, If at any point it was not on my left hand monitor either I must have been going through a power failure or something had
    broken it, because it is working at the moment I have decided not to use emerge update for the next six months, two months in to that period at
    this point.

    2. Seamonkey is my default browser.

    3. Seamonkey cannot be launched twice, ie it cannot be launched on my
    right hand monitor because the monitors are using separte X servers and
    it would need to be launched twice to come up on that monitor.

    The last statement is not quite true. It cannot be launched twice with
    the same profile. This was the first hit when googling "seamonkey launch
    two instances"

    http://kb.mozillazine.org/Opening_a_new_instance_of_your_Mozilla_application_with_another_profile

    Is there a particular reason for running two X servers rather than one
    desktop on two screens? The latter completely avoids the problem you are having.


    --
    Neil Bothwick

    If God can't help you, how about Mr. Coffee?

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