• Re: [gentoo-user] Google Chrome now requires wayland and jack audio?

    From Julien Roy@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jul 15 21:50:01 2022
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  • From Mark Knecht@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jul 15 22:00:01 2022
    On Fri, Jul 15, 2022 at 12:28 PM Grant Edwards <grant.b.edwards@gmail.com> wrote:

    It looks like www-client/google-chrome just added wayland and jack
    audio to the dependancies. So now I have to have Pulse _and_ Jack?

    --
    Grant

    Is that truly a Chrome requirement, like the company Google wrote the
    ebuild, or is
    this something a Gentoo dev did for some reason?

    I'm curious as the USB disconnect problem seems somehow to be related
    to using Chrome on the host machine for sites that do a lot of audio, like YouTube. A clean boot of the host machine, followed by a clean boot of the
    VM
    and I've run for at least an hour with no disconnection problems. I can use Chrome for email, messaging and reading newspapers with no problem, but
    I run YouTube and twice I've had USB problems in the VM.

    <div dir="ltr"><br><br>On Fri, Jul 15, 2022 at 12:28 PM Grant Edwards &lt;<a href="mailto:grant.b.edwards@gmail.com">grant.b.edwards@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>&gt;<br>&gt; It looks like www-client/google-chrome just added wayland and jack<br>&gt; audio
    to the dependancies. So now I have to have Pulse _and_ Jack?<br>&gt;<br>&gt; --<br>&gt; Grant<br><br><div>Is that truly a Chrome requirement, like the company Google wrote the ebuild, or is </div><div>this something a Gentoo dev did for some reason?</
    <div><br></div><div>I&#39;m curious as the USB disconnect problem seems somehow to be related</div><div>to using Chrome on the host machine for sites that do a lot of audio, like</div><div>YouTube. A clean boot of the host machine, followed by a
    clean boot of the VM</div><div>and I&#39;ve run for at least an hour with no disconnection problems. I can use </div><div>Chrome for email, messaging and reading newspapers with no problem, but </div><div>I run YouTube and twice I&#39;ve had USB
    problems in the VM.</div></div>

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  • From Grant Edwards@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jul 15 21:30:02 2022
    It looks like www-client/google-chrome just added wayland and jack
    audio to the dependancies. So now I have to have Pulse _and_ Jack?

    --
    Grant

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  • From Jigme Datse@21:1/5 to Grant Edwards on Fri Jul 15 23:30:02 2022
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    On Fri, 15 Jul 2022 19:28:07 -0000 (UTC)
    Grant Edwards <grant.b.edwards@gmail.com> wrote:

    It looks like www-client/google-chrome just added wayland and jack
    audio to the dependancies. So now I have to have Pulse _and_ Jack?


    Pipewire will allow you to handle both in a pretty seamless way.
    Though it does take a bit of configuration to get it working.

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  • From Daniel Frey@21:1/5 to Mark Knecht on Sat Jul 16 18:00:02 2022
    On 2022-07-15 12:54, Mark Knecht wrote:


    On Fri, Jul 15, 2022 at 12:28 PM Grant Edwards
    <grant.b.edwards@gmail.com <mailto:grant.b.edwards@gmail.com>> wrote:

    It looks like www-client/google-chrome just added wayland and jack
    audio to the dependancies. So now I have to have Pulse _and_ Jack?

    --
    Grant

    Is that truly a Chrome requirement, like the company Google wrote the
    ebuild, or is
    this something a Gentoo dev did for some reason?

    I'm curious as the USB disconnect problem seems somehow to be related
    to using Chrome on the host machine for sites that do a lot of audio, like YouTube. A clean boot of the host machine, followed by a clean boot of
    the VM
    and I've run for at least an hour with no disconnection problems. I can use Chrome for email, messaging and reading newspapers with no problem, but
    I run YouTube and twice I've had USB problems in the VM.

    How is the device for audio set up on the host? It may actually be a
    USB-audio device it provides to the VM itself, and that would explain
    the issue you are having.

    Dan

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  • From Mark Knecht@21:1/5 to djqfrey@gmail.com on Sat Jul 16 18:20:02 2022
    On Sat, Jul 16, 2022 at 8:53 AM Daniel Frey <djqfrey@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-07-15 12:54, Mark Knecht wrote:


    On Fri, Jul 15, 2022 at 12:28 PM Grant Edwards
    <grant.b.edwards@gmail.com <mailto:grant.b.edwards@gmail.com>> wrote:

    It looks like www-client/google-chrome just added wayland and jack
    audio to the dependancies. So now I have to have Pulse _and_ Jack?

    --
    Grant

    Is that truly a Chrome requirement, like the company Google wrote the ebuild, or is
    this something a Gentoo dev did for some reason?

    I'm curious as the USB disconnect problem seems somehow to be related
    to using Chrome on the host machine for sites that do a lot of audio,
    like
    YouTube. A clean boot of the host machine, followed by a clean boot of
    the VM
    and I've run for at least an hour with no disconnection problems. I can
    use
    Chrome for email, messaging and reading newspapers with no problem, but
    I run YouTube and twice I've had USB problems in the VM.

    How is the device for audio set up on the host? It may actually be a USB-audio device it provides to the VM itself, and that would explain
    the issue you are having.

    Dan

    Hi Dan,
    It is not set up at all for audio on the host. I don't intend to use it
    in Linux
    at all at this time. Line6 doesn't support Linux, they provide no Linux software and my use on the computer at all, at least initially, is simply
    to use the DSP edit control software to create & tweak patches. That will either be by rebooting this machine into Windows, or solving the
    disconnection problems in the Windows VM. However I have found in the
    Line6 forums that some people see this disconnection problem even
    running in Windows natively so possibly I've just been lucky and now
    seen it in the 2 or so hours I forced myself to use Windows to update
    the DSP firmware and do an initial checkout of the machine.

    That said the device is a USB audio interface providing 8 USB input
    and 8 USB output channels from the DSP + a stereo dry input over
    USB. (And possibly more stuff over USB but at this time I haven't
    investigated that.) I track, in both Linux and Windows, using Harrison Mixbus32C (the for pay version of Ardour) and I will certainly be
    investigating that at some future date but for now I simply intend to
    take the audio output from the DSP to a normal input preamp interface
    for recording and not use USB at all

    From the standpoint of the Linux host my preference is that KDE
    and most Linux apps don't even know the device is present.

    Hope this helps,
    Mark

    <div dir="ltr"><br><br>On Sat, Jul 16, 2022 at 8:53 AM Daniel Frey &lt;<a href="mailto:djqfrey@gmail.com">djqfrey@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>&gt;<br>&gt; On 2022-07-15 12:54, Mark Knecht wrote:<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; On Fri, Jul 15, 2022
    at 12:28 PM Grant Edwards<br>&gt; &gt; &lt;<a href="mailto:grant.b.edwards@gmail.com">grant.b.edwards@gmail.com</a> &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:grant.b.edwards@gmail.com">grant.b.edwards@gmail.com</a>&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>&gt; &gt;  &gt;<br>&gt; &gt;  &gt;
    It looks like www-client/google-chrome just added wayland and jack<br>&gt; &gt;  &gt; audio to the dependancies. So now I have to have Pulse _and_ Jack?<br>&gt; &gt;  &gt;<br>&gt; &gt;  &gt; --<br>&gt; &gt;  &gt; Grant<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Is
    that truly a Chrome requirement, like the company Google wrote the<br>&gt; &gt; ebuild, or is<br>&gt; &gt; this something a Gentoo dev did for some reason?<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; I&#39;m curious as the USB disconnect problem seems somehow to be
    related<br>&gt; &gt; to using Chrome on the host machine for sites that do a lot of audio, like<br>&gt; &gt; YouTube. A clean boot of the host machine, followed by a clean boot of<br>&gt; &gt; the VM<br>&gt; &gt; and I&#39;ve run for at least an hour
    with no disconnection problems. I can use<br>&gt; &gt; Chrome for email, messaging and reading newspapers with no problem, but<br>&gt; &gt; I run YouTube and twice I&#39;ve had USB problems in the VM.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; How is the device for audio set up on
    the host? It may actually be a<br>&gt; USB-audio device it provides to the VM itself, and that would explain<br>&gt; the issue you are having.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Dan<div><br></div><div>Hi Dan,</div><div>   It is not set up at all for audio on the host. I
    don&#39;t intend to use it in Linux</div><div>at all at this time. Line6 doesn&#39;t support Linux, they provide no Linux </div><div>software and my use on the computer at all, at least initially, is simply</div><div>to use the DSP edit control software
    to create &amp; tweak patches. That will</div><div>either be by rebooting this machine into Windows, or solving the </div><div>disconnection problems in the Windows VM. However I have found in the</div><div>Line6 forums that some people see this
    disconnection problem even </div><div>running in Windows natively so possibly I&#39;ve just been lucky and now</div><div>seen it in the 2 or so hours I forced myself to use Windows to update</div><div>the DSP firmware and do an initial checkout of the
    machine.</div><div><br></div><div>   That said the device is a USB audio interface providing 8 USB input</div><div>and 8 USB output channels from the DSP + a stereo dry input over </div><div>USB. (And possibly more stuff over USB but at this time I
    haven&#39;t </div><div>investigated that.) I track, in both Linux and Windows, using Harrison</div><div>Mixbus32C (the for pay version of Ardour) and I will certainly be </div><div>investigating that at some future date but for now I simply intend to</
    <div>take the audio output from the DSP to a normal input preamp interface</div><div>for recording and not use USB at all</div><div><br></div><div>   From the standpoint of the Linux host my preference is that KDE </div><div>and most Linux apps
    don&#39;t even know the device is present.</div><div><br></div><div>Hope this helps,</div><div>Mark</div></div>

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