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  • [gentoo-user] How to disable the modules service?

    From Dex Conner@21:1/5 to All on Sun Oct 23 12:00:02 2022
    Hi all,

    I've went module-less and the rc service called modules is still running
    at startup even when I remove it with rc-update del modules boot. Is the
    only way to solve this to remove the loaded modules from the config
    files every time they are added?

    Thank you!

    --
    Dex

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  • From Peter =?ISO-8859-1?Q?B=F6hm?=@21:1/5 to All on Sun Oct 23 12:50:01 2022
    Hi Dex,

    we have a wiki article for this: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Kernel_Modules#Going_completely_.22module-less.22

    Greetings,
    Peter

    Am Sonntag, 23. Oktober 2022, 11:56:00 CEST schrieb Dex Conner:
    Hi all,

    I've went module-less and the rc service called modules is still running
    at startup even when I remove it with rc-update del modules boot. Is the
    only way to solve this to remove the loaded modules from the config
    files every time they are added?

    Thank you!

    --
    Dex

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  • From Dex Conner@21:1/5 to All on Sun Oct 23 13:40:01 2022
    On 22/10/23 12:45PM, Peter Böhm wrote:
    Hi Dex,

    we have a wiki article for this: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Kernel_Modules#Going_completely_.22module-less.22



    Hello Peter,

    Unfortunately I had already followed that guide for going module-less
    and the rc service called modules is still running. I have found that it
    is the /etc/init.d/modules file which sources some folders including /usr/lib/modules-load.d which has a module in it. I think this module (pkcs8_key_parser) gets created after I update iwd. Is there a way to
    actually remove the modules service instead of removing the modules from
    the directories repeatedly?

    Thank you

    --
    Dex

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  • From Dale@21:1/5 to Dex Conner on Sun Oct 23 13:50:01 2022
    Dex Conner wrote:
    On 22/10/23 12:45PM, Peter Böhm wrote:
    Hi Dex,

    we have a wiki article for this:
    https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Kernel_Modules#Going_completely_.22module-less.22


    Hello Peter,

    Unfortunately I had already followed that guide for going module-less
    and the rc service called modules is still running. I have found that it
    is the /etc/init.d/modules file which sources some folders including /usr/lib/modules-load.d which has a module in it. I think this module (pkcs8_key_parser) gets created after I update iwd. Is there a way to actually remove the modules service instead of removing the modules from
    the directories repeatedly?

    Thank you

    --
    Dex


    First, I don't know much about this.  I did read a bit of the article
    linked to tho.  Could there be a USE flag that will make it not install modules?  I recall seeing kmod mentioned for some packages.  It may not
    apply here and if it doesn't, ignore me.  It could be worth looking into
    what the USE flags add or remove, just to be sure.

    Hope that helps.

    Dale

    :-)  :-) 

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  • From Peter =?ISO-8859-1?Q?B=F6hm?=@21:1/5 to All on Sun Oct 23 17:10:02 2022
    Rainer,

    the handbook still recommends to build sound modules (and many many others) as module, because it is easier than doing a static configuration. Now, you can ask, why someone wants to build it static into the kernel. The answer is: Security !

    Maybe you know this wiki article: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Signed_kernel_module_support

    This is a pre-condition for enabling LOCKDOWN in the kernel ... OR ... you
    have NO modules support (=monolithic kernel) ! So, you have the choice which way you want to go.

    I am using a monolithic kernel also. Dont try to enable lockdown in your
    kernel if you use unsigned modules. ;-) I wrote a big warning in my wiki article:
    https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/User:Pietinger/Tutorials/ Kernel_Hardening_with_KSPP

    Regards,
    Peter

    Am Sonntag, 23. Oktober 2022, 16:19:49 CEST schrieb Dr Rainer Woitok:
    Peter,

    On Sunday, 2022-10-23 12:45:42 +0200, you wrote:
    ...
    we have a wiki article for this: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Kernel_Modules#Going_completely_.22module-les s.22
    When I built my first Gentoo system in 2019, the Handbook instructed to build anything sound related as modules, if I remember correctly. Is
    this no longer true?

    Sincerely,
    Rainer

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  • From Dr Rainer Woitok@21:1/5 to you on Sun Oct 23 16:30:01 2022
    Peter,

    On Sunday, 2022-10-23 12:45:42 +0200, you wrote:

    ...
    we have a wiki article for this: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Kernel_Modules#Going_completely_.22module-less.22

    When I built my first Gentoo system in 2019, the Handbook instructed to
    build anything sound related as modules, if I remember correctly. Is
    this no longer true?

    Sincerely,
    Rainer

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  • From Neil Bothwick@21:1/5 to Dex Conner on Sun Oct 23 17:40:02 2022
    On Sun, 23 Oct 2022 07:29:42 -0400, Dex Conner wrote:

    Unfortunately I had already followed that guide for going module-less
    and the rc service called modules is still running. I have found that it
    is the /etc/init.d/modules file which sources some folders including /usr/lib/modules-load.d which has a module in it. I think this module (pkcs8_key_parser) gets created after I update iwd. Is there a way to actually remove the modules service instead of removing the modules from
    the directories repeatedly?

    You could blacklist the module in /etc/modules.d, but will iwd still work without it?


    --
    Neil Bothwick

    Artificial Intelligence usually beats real stupidity.

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  • From Dex Conner@21:1/5 to Neil Bothwick on Mon Oct 24 08:00:01 2022
    On 22/10/23 04:35PM, Neil Bothwick wrote:
    On Sun, 23 Oct 2022 07:29:42 -0400, Dex Conner wrote:

    Unfortunately I had already followed that guide for going module-less
    and the rc service called modules is still running. I have found that it
    is the /etc/init.d/modules file which sources some folders including /usr/lib/modules-load.d which has a module in it. I think this module (pkcs8_key_parser) gets created after I update iwd. Is there a way to actually remove the modules service instead of removing the modules from the directories repeatedly?

    You could blacklist the module in /etc/modules.d, but will iwd still work without it?

    That seems like a good idea but since I don't have modprobe after
    setting -kmod, it throws an error. I think I should get some sort of
    hook working after each iwd update so that the file is automatically
    removed.

    Thank you everyone

    --
    Dex

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