Michael wrote:
On Monday, 7 July 2025 03:07:35 British Summer Time Dale wrote:
Howdy,
I have one friend that likes to email with encrypted emails. We have
good chats so I set up encryption ages ago. It worked for a long time.
We lost contact for a bit but recently started chatting again. I think
during a upgrade the Enigmail encryption was broken. I'm not sure
when. I've tried every setting I can think of and find and it just
refuses to work. I might add, I also lost all the accumulated keys that >>> I had, including my own keys.
Enigmail Security Info Error - decryption failed Error: Error duringHmm ... I suspect this error is caused because Seamonkey is no longer
parsing. This message / key probably does not conform to a valid OpenPGP >>> format.
supported by Enigmail - see bottom post here:
https://sourceforge.net/p/enigmail/forum/support/thread/b0e5a6791d/
1. Use a more up-to-date OpenPGP.js and the hope Enigmail in Seamonkey will >> function as expected:
I found the folder /home/dale/.gnupg/ but I'm not sure if I can
delete the whole thing, just parts of it, just a single file or I
have to do it another way.
Another way - please see above. You do not have to delete old keys to create
and start using new key pairs. The old private keys are still necessary if >> you want to access previously encrypted files/messages.
HTH.
I got busy with a large wood pile and getting it burnt up. Remember the large sweet gum tree I cut a year or so ago, that wood pile. It's still burning but almost gone. Anyway.
I went back and did the setup again. I chose something besides what
used to be built in since it isn't working anyway. Once that was done,
I saw my old keys that I had accumulated was back. Eli signs his
messages. I saw a post by him and noticed that I could use it as a
test. I was able to click the button, it fetched the proper keys and verified that the message was in fact written, or at least sent, by
Eli. It's not the same as encrypted but from my understanding, both
work the same. It uses the same key and process except that the email
isn't encrypted. So, it worked. I thought I was onto something.
I then went back to my friend's email that is encrypted. It still shows that it is broken for same reason as before. It seems, from the little
info it shares, to fail the same way. I don't understand why it works
for Eli's message signing but someone else's it fails.
I really need to work on what I been wanting to do for years. Set up my
own email fetching/sending software locally so that I can use any client
I want.
Seamonkey is really going downhill. It fails on so many sites
that I rarely use it for browsing anymore.
Most often, the sites I do
visit with Seamonkey; Gentoo forums, wiki and such. For the last year
or so, not much else works. I might add, you about can't get a add-on anymore. The few I have haven't had updates in years. No telling how
big a can of Raid those need.
My biggest two problems, I want to switch from Gmail to a paid service
that doesn't snoop. 2, finding a email client that I like. Thunderbird
is supposed to be like the email part of Seamonkey but it is vastly different. I don't like it to be honest. I also can't open links in
new tabs in a already open instance of Firefox either, or I haven't
figured out how yet.
Nuno Silva wrote:[...]
On 2025-07-09, Dale wrote:
I really need to work on what I been wanting to do for years. Set up my >>> own email fetching/sending software locally so that I can use any client >>> I want.
I'd say you might also want to have your own local IMAP server. Might
not be so easy to configure, but I think it'll be easier to point
different clients to the IMAP server, compared to e.g. making them work
with the same message or mailbox storage format. Or is this already what
you have in mind?
Outgoing/sending can be "centralized" too, but that can be left as a
later improvement, if you need to do it in parts.
I've wanted to set up my own mail server for a LONG time. I mentioned
it on this mailing list before. From what I've read, it is like
threading a needle while blind and with only one hand. Everything has
to be just right or something fails. I've read updates can change
things which means you get to thread that needle again. I want to set
up a email system that fetches my email, stores it local so I can use
any email client I want, be it Seamonkey, Kmail or anything else, and everything be stored here on my machine. I'd also like it to be able to send emails and me be able to see those with any client, even one I
didn't use to send with. I don't know if that kind of setup is possible tho. The sending part is where I wonder. If I send a email in say Seamonkey, how would Kmail know that???
Most often, the sites I do
visit with Seamonkey; Gentoo forums, wiki and such. For the last year
or so, not much else works. I might add, you about can't get a add-on
anymore. The few I have haven't had updates in years. No telling how >>> big a can of Raid those need.
Currently, the best places to get information on extensions are:
- The release notes,
- The status meeting notes, which have a section for extensions,
e.g. https://wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/2025-07-06#Extensions_Tracking
Some extensions are still maintained, and others are in use with updated
versions made available by users. If some extension does not work, it is
possible it only needs minor changes, as there have been a small number
of such breaking changes (IIRC at least one syntax change, and some
renames; I think most, if not all, of this is linked/listed in that
meeting notes section).
As far as I know, Adblock hasn't been updated in a long time. Lastpass hasn't either. Years for both of those. Enigmail has a recent update. All the others are years old. Once Firefox changed the way add-ons
worked, Seamonkey stalled. All the add-on devs switched to the new
Firefox method and left Seamonkey behind.
It would seem to me that Seamonkey needs to follow Firefox in a lot of ways. I have to admit, the switch Firefox made years ago really
improved Firefox in the long term.
My biggest two problems, I want to switch from Gmail to a paid serviceThis shouldn't (hopefully... why am I tempting fate...) be complicated,
that doesn't snoop. 2, finding a email client that I like. Thunderbird >>> is supposed to be like the email part of Seamonkey but it is vastly
different. I don't like it to be honest. I also can't open links in
new tabs in a already open instance of Firefox either, or I haven't
figured out how yet.
I'm guessing it involves using firefox's "remote" feature to open in a
new tab instead of a new instance or a new window. In this regard, it
probably works like SeaMonkey. ...unless Firefox has changed this
somehow?
My guess would be that nowadays this involves a Freedesktop desktop
entry file for Firefox capable of opening in a new tab, and associating
that to the web protocols at the xdg-open level.
Maybe check if this opens in Firefox the way you want. If it doesn't, it
might be just a matter of changing the default.
xdg-open "https://www.gentoo.org/"
I think the current handler can be checked with
xdg-settings get default-web-browser
While it's possible to set it with xdg-settings, Firefox should also
have a way to offer to set itself as the default.
This is what the last command shows.
dale@Gentoo-1 / $ xdg-settings get default-web-browser
firefox-esr.desktop
dale@Gentoo-1 / $
What I'd like, when I click on a link, either in a email within
Seamonkey or say in a Konsole, it would pop up and ask me what profile
I'd like it to be opened in. Then at that point, open it in a new tab
if Firefox is already open or start Firefox with previous tabs and add a
new tab for the clicked link. I could make do with it just opening in a preset profile each time tho. Most likely any link I click on, I'd want
it opened in my profile named "Secure" anyway. That is the one I use
the most for things I used to use Seamonkey for anyway.
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