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  • [gentoo-dev] [RFC] New category: net-servers

    From Anna =?utf-8?B?4oCcQ3liZXJUYWlsb3Li@21:1/5 to All on Sun Dec 19 12:00:01 2021
    Hello, list.

    I've been packaging some Gemini protocol servers and clients in ::guru
    overlay, and they all go to net-misc category. I think it would be
    better to split browsers and servers for non-www protocols (like Finger,
    Ident, Gemini and Gopher) into separate categories.

    "The net-servers category contains servers for miscellaneous network protocols."

    Some candidates for new category are:

    [N] net-misc/arpd (0.2-r1): ARP server claiming all unassigned addresses (for network monitoring/simulation)
    [I] net-misc/fakeidentd (2.6-r1@18.07.2021): A static, secure identd. One source file only!
    [N] net-misc/geomyidae ((~)0.34-r1): A daemon to serve the gopher protocol
    [N] net-misc/gofish (1.2-r1): Gofish gopher server
    [N] net-misc/midentd ((~)2.3.1-r2): ident daemon with masquerading and fake replies support
    [N] net-misc/netkit-bootparamd (0.17-r4): Netkit - bootparamd
    [N] net-misc/netkit-routed (--): Netkit - routed
    [I] net-misc/netkit-talk (0.17-r7@29.08.2021): Netkit - talkd
    [N] net-misc/netkit-timed (0.17-r10): Netkit - timed
    [N] net-misc/oidentd (3.0.0-r1): Another (RFC1413 compliant) ident daemon
    [N] net-misc/sgopherd ((~)18.08): Small Gopher Server written in GNU Bash
    [N] net-misc/utelnetd ((~)0.1.11-r2): A small Telnet daemon, derived from the Axis tools
    [I] net-misc/x2goserver (4.1.0.3-r1@24.05.2021): The X2Go server

    I also consider creating net-client category just for ::guru since there
    are many gemini/gopher browsers.

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  • From Jonas Stein@21:1/5 to All on Mon Dec 20 01:20:02 2021
    Hi,

    I've been packaging some Gemini protocol servers and clients in ::guru overlay, and they all go to net-misc category. I think it would be
    better to split browsers and servers for non-www protocols (like Finger, Ident, Gemini and Gopher) into separate categories.

    all servers without www servers means, we should move
    ssh, imap, pop, mysql... there too

    I think we need a more precise definition if we do not want this.

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    Best,
    Jonas

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  • From Anna =?utf-8?B?4oCcQ3liZXJUYWlsb3Li@21:1/5 to Jonas Stein on Mon Dec 20 09:10:01 2021
    On 2021-12-20 01:18, Jonas Stein wrote:
    I think we need a more precise definition if we do not want this.

    "servers for miscellaneous application-level network protocols"?

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  • From Ulrich Mueller@21:1/5 to All on Mon Dec 20 08:30:01 2021
    On Mon, 20 Dec 2021, Jonas Stein wrote:

    I've been packaging some Gemini protocol servers and clients in ::guru
    overlay, and they all go to net-misc category. I think it would be
    better to split browsers and servers for non-www protocols (like Finger,
    Ident, Gemini and Gopher) into separate categories.

    all servers without www servers means, we should move
    ssh, imap, pop, mysql... there too

    I tend to disagree. Anything specific should stay in its category, e.g.
    FTP servers in net-ftp, IRC servers in net-irc.

    I think we need a more precise definition if we do not want this.

    I wonder if "servers" is a good category, in the first place. A server
    can be for anything.

    Ulrich

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  • From Jonas Stein@21:1/5 to All on Mon Dec 20 13:30:01 2021
    On 20/12/2021 09.05, Anna “CyberTailor” wrote:
    On 2021-12-20 01:18, Jonas Stein wrote:
    I think we need a more precise definition if we do not want this.

    "servers for miscellaneous application-level network protocols"?

    sounds like server-misc/* what is the benefit?
    https://xkcd.com/1077/

    I do not think this is a good idea.
    Categories should be as sharp and clear as possible.

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    Best,
    Jonas

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