• UPDATE Yikes ! Cannot Access a webpage.

    From RecentlOrLately@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 15 10:10:23 2022
    I had long ago installed the Tor Browser to experiment with.

    I tried the Tor Browser and it was able to access all the websites that
    all my other browsers are NOT able to access.

    Does this help identify the problem related to the other browsers?

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to RecentlOrLately on Wed Jun 15 14:47:46 2022
    On 6/15/2022 1:10 PM, RecentlOrLately wrote:

    I had long ago installed the Tor Browser to experiment with.

    I tried the Tor Browser and it was able to access all the websites that all my other browsers are NOT able to access.

    Does this help identify the problem related to the other browsers?


    It says here, a hostname is resolved on the exit node on the other end.
    In other words, WinXP DNS is not being used when you use the
    TOR Browser and try to reach https://www.example.com .

    https://tor.stackexchange.com/questions/8/how-does-tor-route-dns-requests

    That does not allow me to narrow down the problem at all. I don't
    know what the TOR Browser uses for an SChannel. Or certificates.

    On the WinXP Host, open a command prompt and try

    nslookup www.sun.com

    104.124.10.27 # IPV4 address
    104.124.10.91 # IPV4 address

    and see if the local DNS is working for you. That's a start.
    To work, the local browser in WinXP wants to use that number,
    and the "www.sun.com" part is for human convenience.

    But at this point, I don't have a mental picture of a
    test strategy for a (known-broken) WinXP platform. There's
    lots of stuff I don't know how to test, and I couldn't tell
    the difference between a browser problem and an SChannel problem.
    And I'm talking about the browser that is broken.

    Paul

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  • From J. P. Gilliver (John)@21:1/5 to RecentlOrLately@RecentlOrLately.com on Wed Jun 15 19:22:25 2022
    On Wed, 15 Jun 2022 at 10:10:23, RecentlOrLately <RecentlOrLately@RecentlOrLately.com> wrote (my responses usually
    FOLLOW):

    I had long ago installed the Tor Browser to experiment with.

    I tried the Tor Browser and it was able to access all the websites that
    all my other browsers are NOT able to access.

    Does this help identify the problem related to the other browsers?

    What do you get if you ping those sites? (Open a command prompt and type

    ping URL
    ).

    You should get something like

    ping bbc.co.uk

    Pinging bbc.co.uk [151.101.0.81] with 32 bytes of data:
    Reply from 151.101.0.81: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=58
    Reply from 151.101.0.81: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=58
    Reply from 151.101.0.81: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=58
    Reply from 151.101.0.81: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=58

    Ping statistics for 151.101.0.81:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
    Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 8ms, Maximum = 8ms, Average = 8ms

    You should get a different IP (the 151.101.0.81 in the above example)
    for each one you try.

    Also try a non-existent one - you should get something like

    ping xyzzy.ac
    Ping request could not find host xyzzy.ac. Please check the name and try
    again.

    (These are from Windows 7, but I don't think ping has changed much since
    XP or before.)
    --
    J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

    "Mary Poppins is a junkie" - bumper sticker on Julie Andrews' car in the '60s

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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 15/06/2022 18:10, RecentlOrLately
    wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:t8d3q4$1q4l$1@gioia.aioe.org"> <br>
    <br>
    Does this help identify the problem related to the other browsers?
    <br>
    <br>
    </blockquote>
    <p>The problem might be you are using old, unsupported browser and
    the website isn't supporting that browser or browsers and and XP
    has been unsupported by Microsoft since 2014.</p>
    <p>People say XP is working for them so why do they need to upgrade
    the OS. The answer is it is NOT WORKING as you have just found
    out.</p>
    <p>Tor is NOT a traditional browser in the real sense. They use
    Firefox but the browser is tweaked to a greater extent to make it
    their own and that is why they call it Tor and NOT Firefox.
    Mozilla's licensing terms prohibit them from claiming that it is
    compatible with Firefox because the code base is changed
    dramatically.<br>
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    <q>Similar to Windows 11 Home edition, Windows 11 Pro edition now
    requires internet connectivity during the initial device setup
    (OOBE) only. If you choose to setup device for personal use, MSA
    will be required for setup as well. You can expect Microsoft
    Account to be required in subsequent WIP flights.</q><br>
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  • From RecentlyOrLately@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 15 13:27:27 2022
    Question
    Is Time Freeze a good tool to run all the time for protection ?

    What I did:
    1) used to Tor browser to download the latest version of
    SuperAnitiSpyware (SAS)

    2) Ran it at max scan depth

    3) it found many problems including four Trojans.

    4) I asked SAS to remove all and it apparently did after erasing stuff
    and my booting the laptop.

    5) I tried the nslookup www.sun.com and it returned two IP addresses and
    was successful.

    6) I opened FireFox and so far I am able to surf some but not security
    sites like superantispyware.com.

    7) Not able to update superantispyware and am using 6 yo database 12156.

    8) continuing to test ...

    9) I am going to see if I can install NordVPN or some other.

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to RecentlyOrLately on Wed Jun 15 22:53:37 2022
    On 6/15/2022 4:27 PM, RecentlyOrLately wrote:


    Question
    Is Time Freeze a good tool to run all the time for protection ?

    What I did:
    1) used to Tor browser to download the latest version of
       SuperAnitiSpyware   (SAS)

    2) Ran it at max scan depth

    3) it found many problems including four Trojans.

    4) I asked SAS to remove all and it apparently did after erasing stuff and my booting the laptop.

    5) I tried the nslookup www.sun.com and it returned two IP addresses and was successful.

    6) I opened FireFox and so far I am able to surf some but not security sites like superantispyware.com.

    7) Not able to update superantispyware and am using 6  yo database 12156.

    8) continuing to test ...

    9) I am going to see if I can install NordVPN or some other.


    You could try reaching here and downloading the definitions this way.

    https://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/superantispyware_database_definitions.html

    "SUPERAntiSpyware Database Definitions June 9, 2022 "

    Author: SUPERAntiSpyware.com
    Date: 06/07/2022
    Size: 196 MB
    License: Freeware

    Techspot has one as well. It's newer.

    https://www.techspot.com/downloads/5026-superantispyware-update.html

    I don't think your malware will be inconvenienced at
    all, by a VPN. But you can certainly try, for the experience.

    You've made pretty good progress so far. Hope you have
    a backup, just in case.

    *******

    No idea on the "Time Freeze". The most impressive subsystem
    WinXP has got on it, is VSS (Volume Shadow Service) and it is
    an OS mechanism for freezing a version of a partition. That's
    used by backup software. It could be that the Time Freeze uses
    VSS for part of what it does.

    https://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/toolwiz_time_freeze.html

    Not every implementation of this idea has been a success.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GoBack

    "Several users at CNET Reviews have reported data loss
    after installing this product"

    Ha! There are lots of stories of disasters. The more
    of a power user a person was, the more likely a disaster
    awaited.

    And that's partially because GoBack was written entirely
    by hand by the developers. VSS likely did not exist when
    they wrote that.

    Paul

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  • From RecentlyOrLately@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jun 16 08:34:59 2022
    I did not know that the database was available separately.

    A VPN would be much faster than the Tor browser.

    I have NORD VPN on a Win 7 Pro but NORD is not available of Win XP Pro
    32bit. Turns out Tor browser by itself and NORD VPN with Firefox have
    very different search results, strange. So I stay away from that
    confusion.

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  • From RecentlyOrLately@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jun 16 08:30:50 2022
    Thank you for those database links.

    Having to use Tor to download. Now downloading. Slow !


    Seems whenever, for example, superantispyware, is used in a link the
    other browsers will not process and give me the server error message.

    Tor has no problem so far.

    So is there a browser addon, background running app or way of making a
    websites locked out.
    Sort of like or exactly like parental controls ?

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