Thunderbird has the core to render a web page too; but it is disabled by default.
| Now the web links are loaded just in the Email tab or window without jumping out to browser.
|
Sounds great. I was wondering how I could make web
browsing less safe while also visiting phishing email URLs
with no control over script.
"Lu Wei" <luweitest@gmail.com> wrote
| I agree this ThunderBrowse does not suit for everybody, just like
| WindowsXP. And I think Noscript and UBO still work in Thunderbird; if
| not, you can set viewing message body as text or simple HTML, which has
| scripts disabled IMO.
|
You seem to be a bit behind the times. No one who
knows better has enabled script in email for 20 years
or so. I haven't enabled HTML email at all for that long.
I also never click the links in email because more often
than not they're rigged. It's become common to tag on
tracking IDs, which need to be removed. For example:
www.acme.com/index.html?xid=1234567&uid=abcdefg....
I haven't even configured a browser for TBird. I use IE
as my default browser and block it at the firewall. So if
anything tries to go onilne without asking it gets stopped
and I get informed.>
I know someone who gets emails from The Hill, a
liberal news site. The Hill includes links from other sites,
which they apparently have a deal with to get kickbacks.
I've found the person's name, email and home address
embedded in those links, base-64 encoded.
"Lu Wei" <luweitest@gmail.com> wrote
| People using email distribute at large scale. My most colleagues know
| nothing about scripts in email, certainly not because they are a bit
| behind the times; in fact they tend to deem the use of email is a bit
| behind the times, not to say Windows XP, even Usenet which they never
| heard of.
|
Yes. That's a good point. If I want to reach my techie niece
I can do it in 40 seconds with a text, or 5 days via email. But
it takes me about 10 minites to write the text. And I have to turn
on my cellphone, wait for it to boot... :)
Some are legitimate, in a sense. For example, my dentist requires
me to confirm my appt. My dentist, of course, pays another
company to handle all that. I get a link about 300 characters
long. If I don't load the whole link I'll have an angry dental
receptionst calling me. So I have to allow the 3rd-party company.
Though I run the URL in New Moon with script disabled.
"Lu Wei" <luweitest@gmail.com> wrote
| I agree this ThunderBrowse does not suit for everybody, just like
| WindowsXP. And I think Noscript and UBO still work in Thunderbird; if
| not, you can set viewing message body as text or simple HTML, which has
| scripts disabled IMO.
|
You seem to be a bit behind the times. No one who
knows better has enabled script in email for 20 years
or so. I haven't enabled HTML email at all for that long.
I also never click the links in email because more often
than not they're rigged. It's become common to tag on
tracking IDs, which need to be removed. For example:
www.acme.com/index.html?xid=1234567&uid=abcdefg....
I haven't even configured a browser for TBird. I use IE
as my default browser and block it at the firewall. So if
anything tries to go onilne without asking it gets stopped
and I get informed.
I know someone who gets emails from The Hill, a
liberal news site. The Hill includes links from other sites,
which they apparently have a deal with to get kickbacks.
I've found the person's name, email and home address
embedded in those links, base-64 encoded.
"Rink" <rink.hof.haalditmaarweg@planet.nl> wrote
| And while I have the NoScript addon installed at Firefox,
| I do not know how to stop scripts in Thunderbird.
|
| How can I do this??
|
Options -> Advanced -> Config Editor -> javascript.enabled = false
There are also settings on the privacy tab to block retrieving web bugs.
And you can avoid HTML by setting all options for display
and compose to plain text. I find that occasionally someone
will send me an HTML email with no text version; for example,
an email that's only images. But in general, reading as plain
text works and is safe.
| I use Firefox, but do not update it anymore.
| I do not want the new "services" as updating in the background, etc.
|
| I get the idea, that all new browsers are getting worse, when I look at
| privacy.
|
There is New Moon for XP. I don't have a link offhand.
It doesn't have a website. But basically it's simplifed Firefox.
I use both. With NM I avoid 3rd party images, iframes, and
all sorts of other things. If it doesn't work there I'll
try Firefox.
Some sites now are designed to require script and I
have to disable CSS to see them at all. Webpages are getting
bad. And some things only work in Chrome. I don't know
why. It seems to be Google-specific functionality.
"Rink" <rink.hof.haalditmaarweg@planet.nl> wrote
| And while I have the NoScript addon installed at Firefox,
| I do not know how to stop scripts in Thunderbird.
|
| How can I do this??
|
Options -> Advanced -> Config Editor -> javascript.enabled = false
There are also settings on the privacy tab to block retrieving web bugs.
And you can avoid HTML by setting all options for display
and compose to plain text. I find that occasionally someone
will send me an HTML email with no text version; for example,
an email that's only images. But in general, reading as plain
text works and is safe.
| I use Firefox, but do not update it anymore.
| I do not want the new "services" as updating in the background, etc.
|
| I get the idea, that all new browsers are getting worse, when I look at
| privacy.
|
There is New Moon for XP. I don't have a link offhand.
It doesn't have a website. But basically it's simplifed Firefox.
I use both. With NM I avoid 3rd party images, iframes, and
all sorts of other things. If it doesn't work there I'll
try Firefox.
"Paul" <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote
| That New Moon looks like loads of fun.
|
| https://msfn.org/board/topic/177125-my-browser-builds-part-1/
|
| It looks like some of the symptoms are related to the
| hardware it is running on.
|
It's here:
http://rtfreesoft.blogspot.com/
Your link is old. It's confusing, though. The version I have is
28.10, from 8/2020. There seem to be concurrent releases of
27 and 28, though I don't see any sign of 28 now. And I've never
seen any explanations from the author.
I've had good luck with 28. I seem to remember a problem
with 27, but I'm not sure. It's been awhile.
Here you can find the different versions. I just checked
and found a very recent update of 28:
https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/
I haven't tried it yet. I also don't know what the SSE means.
I thought SSE was CPU instructuions introduced many years ago.
So why would there be a no SSE version? And why would there
also be SSE versions and versions that don't mention SSE?
Beats me.
"Paul" <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote
| That New Moon looks like loads of fun.
|
| https://msfn.org/board/topic/177125-my-browser-builds-part-1/
|
| It looks like some of the symptoms are related to the
| hardware it is running on.
|
It's here:
http://rtfreesoft.blogspot.com/
Your link is old. It's confusing, though. The version I have is
28.10, from 8/2020. There seem to be concurrent releases of
27 and 28, though I don't see any sign of 28 now. And I've never
seen any explanations from the author.
I've had good luck with 28. I seem to remember a problem
with 27, but I'm not sure. It's been awhile.
Here you can find the different versions. I just checked
and found a very recent update of 28:
https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/
I haven't tried it yet. I also don't know what the SSE means.
I thought SSE was CPU instructuions introduced many years ago.
So why would there be a no SSE version? And why would there
also be SSE versions and versions that don't mention SSE?
Beats me.
| The official site of RoyTam's browsers build:
| https://rtfreesoft.blogspot.com/search/label/browser
|
| Among them Basilisk 52 is the closest successor of Firefox 52 on WinXP.
| https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/?sort=date&order=desc
|
I don't necessarily want the closest possible thing
to FF. I want the most up-to-date rendering, without
bloat, that still supports XP and my extensions.
I wonder if you might know about this: Never noticed
it before, but when I decided to update New Moon it
tried to call out before I enabled it. Turns out it's been
calling out to 69.195.158.195+- at load. I never noticed
that before. That IP is registered to Joe's Datacenter, LLC,
a webhosting company in Kansas City, MO.
| Sysop: | Keyop |
|---|---|
| Location: | Huddersfield, West Yorkshire, UK |
| Users: | 505 |
| Nodes: | 16 (2 / 14) |
| Uptime: | 92:38:50 |
| Calls: | 9,935 |
| Calls today: | 1 |
| Files: | 13,813 |
| Messages: | 6,348,628 |