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  • Re: Is Encouraging Unauthorized Immigration Free Speech or a Felony?

    From Klaus Schadenfreude@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jan 9 09:43:11 2023
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    XPost: alt.politics.democrats.d, talk.politics.guns

    On Mon, 9 Jan 2023 17:38:40 -0000 (UTC), winston <winston@smith.org>
    wrote:

    On 09 Jan 2023, "Mr. B1ack" <bykkker@dogshit~rag.nut> posted some >news:JDWuL.29224$wfQc.2676@fx43.iad:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/09/us/politics/supreme-court-immigratio
    n-free-speech.html

    It's free speech, of course. Any law criminalizing it violates the
    first amendment.

    Advocating or promoting illegal immigration is tantamount to overthrow of
    the US government.

    Which recent US presidents have been actively encouraging illegal >immigration?

    Barack Obama and Joe Biden.

    Leftists LOVE to demonstrate their ignorance of the Constitution.

    Why, it was only a few months ago they were claiming their right to
    kill babies was covered under the Fourteenth Amendment, as if they had
    a right to murder in private.

    But then, you're dealing with Rudy- someone so infinitely stupid that
    he's not even aware that the Constitution places limits on what the
    government can do, and tells it what it can NOT do.



    No, the Constitution does *not* say what the government may not do.
    - Rudy, stupidly demonstrating his complete ignorance of the
    Constitution and claiming the Bill of Rights doesn't exist.
    Message-ID: <FN6fL.17220$fg35.3176@fx10.iad>

    Rudy, running away
    Message-ID: <0t1qnhlfe204vbt2lhg4qcvod5i1e3kchp@4ax.com>

    Rudy, *still* running away
    Message-ID: <822qnh5hlapftmfj077c7b7i6fm7fau78m@4ax.com>

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  • From winston@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jan 9 17:38:40 2023
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    XPost: alt.politics.democrats.d, talk.politics.guns

    On 09 Jan 2023, "Mr. B1ack" <bykkker@dogshit~rag.nut> posted some news:JDWuL.29224$wfQc.2676@fx43.iad:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/09/us/politics/supreme-court-immigratio n-free-speech.html

    It's free speech, of course. Any law criminalizing it violates the
    first amendment.

    Advocating or promoting illegal immigration is tantamount to overthrow of
    the US government.

    Which recent US presidents have been actively encouraging illegal
    immigration?

    Barack Obama and Joe Biden.

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  • From governor.swill@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jan 9 18:35:38 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats.d, talk.politics.guns

    On Mon, 9 Jan 2023 17:38:40 -0000 (UTC), winston <winston@smith.org>
    wrote:

    On 09 Jan 2023, "Mr. B1ack" <bykkker@dogshit~rag.nut> posted some >news:JDWuL.29224$wfQc.2676@fx43.iad:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/09/us/politics/supreme-court-immigratio
    n-free-speech.html

    It's free speech, of course. Any law criminalizing it violates the
    first amendment.

    Advocating or promoting illegal immigration is tantamount to overthrow of
    the US government.

    Which recent US presidents have been actively encouraging illegal >immigration?

    Barack Obama and Joe Biden.

    Actual illegal immigration has gone down under both of these
    Presidents but went up under both Bush and Trump. Look up the FACTS
    because you aren't going to get them from talk radio.

    Swill
    --
    "Reality is an acquired taste." - Matthew Perry

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  • From max headroom@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jan 10 19:57:40 2023
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    XPost: alt.politics.democrats.d, talk.politics.guns

    In news:d49prhh0o2b0am6sthkto3kk1op93ntpo1@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:

    On Mon, 9 Jan 2023 17:38:40 -0000 (UTC), winston <winston@smith.org>
    wrote:
    On 09 Jan 2023, "Mr. B1ack" <bykkker@dogshit~rag.nut> posted some
    news:JDWuL.29224$wfQc.2676@fx43.iad:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/09/us/politics/supreme-court-immigration-free-speech.html

    It's free speech, of course. Any law criminalizing it violates the
    first amendment.

    Advocating or promoting illegal immigration is tantamount to overthrow of
    the US government.

    Which recent US presidents have been actively encouraging illegal
    immigration?

    Barack Obama and Joe Biden.

    Actual illegal immigration has gone down under both of these
    Presidents but went up under both Bush and Trump. Look up the FACTS
    because you aren't going to get them from talk radio.

    "The number of undocumented immigrant crossings at the southwest border for fiscal year 2022 topped 2.76 million, breaking the previous annual record by more than 1 million, according to Customs and Border Protection data.

    "For the 12 months ending Sept. 30, 2022, CBP stopped migrants more than 2,766,582 times, compared to 1.72 million times for fiscal 2021, the previous yearly high. The 2022 numbers were driven in part by sharp increases in the number of Venezuelans, Cubans and Nicaraguans making the trek north, according to CBP...."

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/migrant-border-crossings-fiscal-year-2022-topped-276-million-breaking-rcna53517

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  • From John Baker@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jan 10 22:37:15 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats.d, talk.politics.guns

    On Mon, 9 Jan 2023 17:38:40 -0000 (UTC), winston <winston@smith.org>
    wrote:

    On 09 Jan 2023, "Mr. B1ack" <bykkker@dogshit~rag.nut> posted some >news:JDWuL.29224$wfQc.2676@fx43.iad:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/09/us/politics/supreme-court-immigratio
    n-free-speech.html

    It's free speech, of course. Any law criminalizing it violates the
    first amendment.

    Advocating or promoting illegal immigration is tantamount to overthrow of
    the US government.

    Which recent US presidents have been actively encouraging illegal >immigration?

    Barack Obama and Joe Biden.

    And the president of the Dunning-Kruger Club chimes in yet again.







    AA #1898
    Giver of No Fucks
    Keeper of the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch

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  • From governor.swill@gmail.com@21:1/5 to minimal headroom on Wed Jan 11 00:40:43 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats.d, talk.politics.guns

    On Tue, 10 Jan 2023 19:57:40 -0800, "minimal headroom" wrote: ><governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
    On Mon, 9 Jan 2023 17:38:40 -0000 (UTC), winston wrote:
    On 09 Jan 2023, "Mr. B1ack" <bykkker@dogshit~rag.nut> posted
    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/09/us/politics/supreme-court-immigration-free-speech.html
    It's free speech, of course. Any law criminalizing it violates the
    first amendment.

    Advocating or promoting illegal immigration is tantamount to overthrow of >>> the US government.

    Which recent US presidents have been actively encouraging illegal
    immigration?

    Barack Obama and Joe Biden.

    Actual illegal immigration has gone down under both of these
    Presidents but went up under both Bush and Trump. Look up the FACTS
    because you aren't going to get them from talk radio.

    "The number of undocumented immigrant crossings at the southwest border for >fiscal year 2022 topped 2.76 million, breaking the previous annual record by >more than 1 million, according to Customs and Border Protection data.

    "For the 12 months ending Sept. 30, 2022, CBP stopped migrants more than >2,766,582 times, compared to 1.72 million times for fiscal 2021, the previous >yearly high. The 2022 numbers were driven in part by sharp increases in the >number of Venezuelans, Cubans and Nicaraguans making the trek north, according >to CBP...."

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/migrant-border-crossings-fiscal-year-2022-topped-276-million-breaking-rcna53517

    Those were immigrants who were *stopped* by CPB, stupid. That's
    because the Border Patrol has been beefed up by new agents and
    technology. They certainly weren't interdicted by Trump's wall that
    he never built.

    The GOP in Congress refused to pay for it.
    Trump raided the defense budget to build some of it.
    Bannon ran a non profit to raise private money to build it then along
    with colleagues, embezzled it.

    Swill
    --
    "Reality is an acquired taste." - Matthew Perry

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  • From Michael A Terrell@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jan 10 22:06:17 2023
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    XPost: alt.politics.democrats.d, talk.politics.guns

    On 1/10/2023 7:57 PM, oozing scarlet red maxipad attempted - and *failed* - to bullshit:

    In news:d49prhh0o2b0am6sthkto3kk1op93ntpo1@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:

    On Mon, 9 Jan 2023 17:38:40 -0000 (UTC), winston <winston@smith.org>
    wrote:
    On 09 Jan 2023, "Mr. B1ack" <bykkker@dogshit~rag.nut> posted some
    news:JDWuL.29224$wfQc.2676@fx43.iad:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/09/us/politics/supreme-court-immigration-free-speech.html

    It's free speech, of course. Any law criminalizing it violates the
    first amendment.

    Advocating or promoting illegal immigration is tantamount to overthrow of >>> the US government.

    Which recent US presidents have been actively encouraging illegal
    immigration?

    Barack Obama and Joe Biden.

    Actual illegal immigration has gone down under both of these
    Presidents but went up under both Bush and Trump. Look up the FACTS
    because you aren't going to get them from talk radio.

    "The number of undocumented immigrant crossings at the southwest border for fiscal year 2022 topped 2.76 million,

    Most were caught and sent back, o oozing scarlet red maxipad the liar.

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  • From governor.swill@gmail.com@21:1/5 to John Baker on Wed Jan 11 00:42:49 2023
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    XPost: alt.politics.democrats.d, talk.politics.guns

    On Tue, 10 Jan 2023 22:37:15 -0500, John Baker wrote:

    And the president of the Dunning-Kruger Club chimes in yet again.

    Hey! Tim Kruger is DA MAN!

    Swill
    --
    "Reality is an acquired taste." - Matthew Perry

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  • From governor.swill@gmail.com@21:1/5 to governor.swill@gmail.com on Wed Jan 11 14:02:22 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats.d, talk.politics.guns

    On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 00:40:43 -0500, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:

    On Tue, 10 Jan 2023 19:57:40 -0800, "minimal headroom" wrote: >><governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
    On Mon, 9 Jan 2023 17:38:40 -0000 (UTC), winston wrote:
    On 09 Jan 2023, "Mr. B1ack" <bykkker@dogshit~rag.nut> posted
    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/09/us/politics/supreme-court-immigration-free-speech.html
    It's free speech, of course. Any law criminalizing it violates the
    first amendment.

    Advocating or promoting illegal immigration is tantamount to overthrow of >>>> the US government.

    Which recent US presidents have been actively encouraging illegal
    immigration?

    Barack Obama and Joe Biden.

    Actual illegal immigration has gone down under both of these
    Presidents but went up under both Bush and Trump. Look up the FACTS
    because you aren't going to get them from talk radio.

    "The number of undocumented immigrant crossings at the southwest border for >>fiscal year 2022 topped 2.76 million, breaking the previous annual record by >>more than 1 million, according to Customs and Border Protection data.

    "For the 12 months ending Sept. 30, 2022, CBP stopped migrants more than >>2,766,582 times, compared to 1.72 million times for fiscal 2021, the previous >>yearly high. The 2022 numbers were driven in part by sharp increases in the >>number of Venezuelans, Cubans and Nicaraguans making the trek north, according
    to CBP...."
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/migrant-border-crossings-fiscal-year-2022-topped-276-million-breaking-rcna53517

    Those were immigrants who were *stopped* by CPB, stupid. That's
    because the Border Patrol has been beefed up by new agents and
    technology. They certainly weren't interdicted by Trump's wall that
    he never built.

    The GOP in Congress refused to pay for it.
    Trump raided the defense budget to build some of it.
    Bannon ran a non profit to raise private money to build it then along
    with colleagues, embezzled it.

    Whatsamatter, "minimal"?

    No snappy comeback? Didn't the truth set you free?

    Swill
    --
    "Reality is an acquired taste." - Matthew Perry

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  • From max headroom@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jan 11 13:58:35 2023
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    XPost: alt.politics.democrats.d, talk.politics.guns

    In news:mhisrh9v9uc3mh739m8u34u6inn2h9q1t5@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:

    On Tue, 10 Jan 2023 19:57:40 -0800, "minimal headroom" wrote:
    <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
    On Mon, 9 Jan 2023 17:38:40 -0000 (UTC), winston wrote:
    On 09 Jan 2023, "Mr. B1ack" <bykkker@dogshit~rag.nut> posted

    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/09/us/politics/supreme-court-immigration-free-speech.html

    It's free speech, of course. Any law criminalizing it violates the
    first amendment.

    Advocating or promoting illegal immigration is tantamount to overthrow of >>>> the US government.

    Which recent US presidents have been actively encouraging illegal
    immigration?

    Barack Obama and Joe Biden.

    Actual illegal immigration has gone down under both of these
    Presidents but went up under both Bush and Trump. Look up the FACTS
    because you aren't going to get them from talk radio.

    "The number of undocumented immigrant crossings at the southwest border for >> fiscal year 2022 topped 2.76 million, breaking the previous annual record by >> more than 1 million, according to Customs and Border Protection data.

    "For the 12 months ending Sept. 30, 2022, CBP stopped migrants more than
    2,766,582 times, compared to 1.72 million times for fiscal 2021, the previous
    yearly high. The 2022 numbers were driven in part by sharp increases in the >> number of Venezuelans, Cubans and Nicaraguans making the trek north,
    according to CBP...."

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/migrant-border-crossings-fiscal-year-2022-topped-276-million-breaking-rcna53517

    Those were immigrants who were *stopped* by CPB, stupid. That's
    because the Border Patrol has been beefed up by new agents and
    technology. ...

    " ...During the Trump administration, the number of Border Patrol agents fluctuated between 19,430 and 19,740. Biden's administration has had between 19,338 and 19,536 agents...."

    https://www.wral.com/fact-check-did-biden-and-democrats-dismantle-border-security/20602396/

    "The Border Patrol has launched a major initiative that asks former agents to return to federal law enforcement and help the organization amid mass departures
    and historically high illegal migration to the United States.

    "The Border Patrol's parent agency, U.S. Customs and Border Protection , posted an advertisement on its homepage earlier this week urging agents who are under 40 years of age and quit in the past three years to return to their old jobs, even waiving six-month stints at its academy and offering sizable raises. ...

    "'Out in the field, it's already gotten bad. There's so many sectors where they're just pulling everybody in from the field to just help with the command and control at stations,' a senior Border Patrol official at the agency's Washington headquarters told the Washington Examiner on condition of anonymity...."

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/restoring-america/patriotism-unity/low-staffed-border-patrol-begging-former-agents-to-come-back

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  • From max headroom@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jan 11 13:50:13 2023
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    XPost: alt.politics.democrats.d, talk.politics.guns

    In news:hq1urhp759j4tfhai53aj6slbqaoj1uqlo@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:

    On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 00:40:43 -0500, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
    On Tue, 10 Jan 2023 19:57:40 -0800, "minimal headroom" wrote:
    <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
    On Mon, 9 Jan 2023 17:38:40 -0000 (UTC), winston wrote:
    On 09 Jan 2023, "Mr. B1ack" <bykkker@dogshit~rag.nut> posted

    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/09/us/politics/supreme-court-immigration-free-speech.html

    It's free speech, of course. Any law criminalizing it violates the >>>>>> first amendment.

    Advocating or promoting illegal immigration is tantamount to overthrow of >>>>> the US government.

    Which recent US presidents have been actively encouraging illegal
    immigration?

    Barack Obama and Joe Biden.

    Actual illegal immigration has gone down under both of these
    Presidents but went up under both Bush and Trump. Look up the FACTS
    because you aren't going to get them from talk radio.

    "The number of undocumented immigrant crossings at the southwest border for >>> fiscal year 2022 topped 2.76 million, breaking the previous annual record by
    more than 1 million, according to Customs and Border Protection data.

    "For the 12 months ending Sept. 30, 2022, CBP stopped migrants more than >>> 2,766,582 times, compared to 1.72 million times for fiscal 2021, the
    previous yearly high. The 2022 numbers were driven in part by sharp
    increases in the number of Venezuelans, Cubans and Nicaraguans making the >>> trek north, according to CBP...."

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/migrant-border-crossings-fiscal-year-2022-topped-276-million-breaking-rcna53517

    Those were immigrants who were *stopped* by CPB, stupid. That's
    because the Border Patrol has been beefed up by new agents and
    technology. They certainly weren't interdicted by Trump's wall that
    he never built.

    The GOP in Congress refused to pay for it.
    Trump raided the defense budget to build some of it.
    Bannon ran a non profit to raise private money to build it then along
    with colleagues, embezzled it.

    Whatsamatter, "minimal"?

    No snappy comeback? Didn't the truth set you free?

    Swill

    I am amused and flattered that you sit there hitting <refresh><refresh><refresh>, hoping for my attention. Some of us have a life, ya
    know?

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