• Arizona Dem Gov Katie Hobbs vetoes bill making illegal border crossing

    From Walter Duerson@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 6 00:31:16 2024
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    Governor Katie Hobbs has vetoed a law that would make crossing the border illegally a state crime in Arizona. She labeled the bill as "harmful" and "burdensome" to the community.

    Senate Bill 1231, called the "Arizona Border Invasion Act," makes it
    "unlawful for a person who is an alien (unlawful immigrant) to enter
    Arizona from a foreign nation at any location other than a lawful port of entry" in the state of Arizona. The governor has also talked about bussing illegal immigrants out of the state.

    Hobbs vetoed the measure and wrote a letter in response to the law being brought to her desk and cited "constitutional concerns" for her reasoning
    to not pass the bill.

    "Today, I vetoed Senate Bill 1231. This bill does not secure our border,
    will be harmful for communities and business in our state, and burdensome
    for law enforcement personnel and the state judicial system."

    "Further, this bill presents significant constitutional concerns and would
    be certain to mire the State in costly and protracted litigation," Hobbs
    added.

    A similar bill was passed by Texas Gov. Greg Abbott that has faced
    scrutiny in the courts with regard to how it squared with the
    Constitution. The decision from Abbott was greenlit by a federal appeals
    court but then the Supreme Court put a temporary hold on the measure.

    The ongoing border crisis has been raging in states like Arizona where
    people have recounted seeing over 700 people cross the border illegally in
    a day. Airlines have also used the state as a point of transportation for illegal immigrants flying throughout the United States. It was recently reported that the Biden admin flew at least 320,000 illegal immigrants
    from different parts of the world to US cities.

    https://thepostmillennial.com/arizona-dem-gov-katie-hobbs-vetoes-bill- making-illegal-border-crossing-a-state-crime?utm_campaign=64470

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Walter Duerson on Wed Mar 6 03:04:13 2024
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    Walter Duerson <liars@msnbc.com> wrote in
    news:us8dgj$o4o$1@toxic.dizum.net:

    Governor Katie Hobbs has vetoed a law that would make crossing the
    border illegally a state crime in Arizona. She labeled the bill as
    "harmful" and "burdensome" to the community.

    Senate Bill 1231, called the "Arizona Border Invasion Act," makes it "unlawful for a person who is an alien (unlawful immigrant) to enter
    Arizona from a foreign nation at any location other than a lawful port
    of entry" in the state of Arizona. The governor has also talked about
    bussing illegal immigrants out of the state.


    Underline that last portion, as no
    DA or sheriff wants the additional workload
    of prosecuting and incarcerating non-violent
    offenders. Jurors would refuse to convict,
    county commissioners would refuse to feed
    and house them.

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  • From Khil Philed@21:1/5 to Walter Duerson on Wed Mar 6 09:01:48 2024
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    Walter Duerson <liars@msnbc.com> wrote in
    news:us8dgj$o4o$1@toxic.dizum.net:

    Governor Katie Hobbs has vetoed a law that would make crossing the
    border illegally a state crime in Arizona. She labeled the bill as
    "harmful" and "burdensome" to the community.

    Senate Bill 1231, called the "Arizona Border Invasion Act," makes it "unlawful for a person who is an alien (unlawful immigrant) to enter
    Arizona from a foreign nation at any location other than a lawful port
    of entry" in the state of Arizona. The governor has also talked about
    bussing illegal immigrants out of the state.

    Hobbs vetoed the measure and wrote a letter in response to the law
    being brought to her desk and cited "constitutional concerns" for her reasoning to not pass the bill.

    "Today, I vetoed Senate Bill 1231. This bill does not secure our
    border, will be harmful for communities and business in our state, and burdensome for law enforcement personnel and the state judicial
    system."

    While Arabs drain the state dry of water growing produce and shipping it
    out of the country, as illegal aliens use it as a super highway, Katie
    Hobbs stands waving her pen at her pulpit, making every excuse in the
    world to avoid doing anything to protect her state.

    "Further, this bill presents significant constitutional concerns and
    would be certain to mire the State in costly and protracted
    litigation," Hobbs added.

    A similar bill was passed by Texas Gov. Greg Abbott that has faced
    scrutiny in the courts with regard to how it squared with the
    Constitution. The decision from Abbott was greenlit by a federal
    appeals court but then the Supreme Court put a temporary hold on the
    measure.

    The ongoing border crisis has been raging in states like Arizona where
    people have recounted seeing over 700 people cross the border
    illegally in a day. Airlines have also used the state as a point of transportation for illegal immigrants flying throughout the United
    States. It was recently reported that the Biden admin flew at least
    320,000 illegal immigrants from different parts of the world to US
    cities.

    https://thepostmillennial.com/arizona-dem-gov-katie-hobbs-vetoes-bill- making-illegal-border-crossing-a-state-crime?utm_campaign=64470

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  • From pothead@21:1/5 to Khil Philed on Wed Mar 6 23:56:35 2024
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    On 2024-03-06, Khil Philed <khilphile@used.net> wrote:
    Walter Duerson <liars@msnbc.com> wrote in
    news:us8dgj$o4o$1@toxic.dizum.net:

    Governor Katie Hobbs has vetoed a law that would make crossing the
    border illegally a state crime in Arizona. She labeled the bill as
    "harmful" and "burdensome" to the community.

    Senate Bill 1231, called the "Arizona Border Invasion Act," makes it
    "unlawful for a person who is an alien (unlawful immigrant) to enter
    Arizona from a foreign nation at any location other than a lawful port
    of entry" in the state of Arizona. The governor has also talked about
    bussing illegal immigrants out of the state.

    Hobbs vetoed the measure and wrote a letter in response to the law
    being brought to her desk and cited "constitutional concerns" for her
    reasoning to not pass the bill.

    "Today, I vetoed Senate Bill 1231. This bill does not secure our
    border, will be harmful for communities and business in our state, and
    burdensome for law enforcement personnel and the state judicial
    system."

    While Arabs drain the state dry of water growing produce and shipping it
    out of the country, as illegal aliens use it as a super highway, Katie
    Hobbs stands waving her pen at her pulpit, making every excuse in the
    world to avoid doing anything to protect her state.

    "Further, this bill presents significant constitutional concerns and
    would be certain to mire the State in costly and protracted
    litigation," Hobbs added.

    A similar bill was passed by Texas Gov. Greg Abbott that has faced
    scrutiny in the courts with regard to how it squared with the
    Constitution. The decision from Abbott was greenlit by a federal
    appeals court but then the Supreme Court put a temporary hold on the
    measure.

    The ongoing border crisis has been raging in states like Arizona where
    people have recounted seeing over 700 people cross the border
    illegally in a day. Airlines have also used the state as a point of
    transportation for illegal immigrants flying throughout the United
    States. It was recently reported that the Biden admin flew at least
    320,000 illegal immigrants from different parts of the world to US
    cities.

    https://thepostmillennial.com/arizona-dem-gov-katie-hobbs-vetoes-bill-
    making-illegal-border-crossing-a-state-crime?utm_campaign=64470

    They know how to milk the US system because they have been carefully instructed.
    Thousands of Chinese nationals and military age males from the Middle East are all entering the
    country to pick melons?
    Sure.
    You libs are fools.

    Even Musk realizes we are going to see attacks that will make 9-11 look like a walk in the park.
    And he is right.

    It is going to take a decade or more to reverse the mess that Biden and his left wing puppet
    masters have created.


    --
    pothead
    Tommy Chong For President 2024.
    Crazy Joe Biden Is A Demented Imbecile.
    Impeach Joe Biden 2022.

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to pothead on Thu Mar 7 03:00:38 2024
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    pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
    news:usavri$m479$4@dont-email.me:



    Even Musk realizes we are going to see attacks that will make 9-11
    look like a walk in the park.


    And who was president when the
    9/11 attacks happened?

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  • From alkanamana@21:1/5 to Mitchell Holman on Sun Apr 7 13:02:40 2024
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    On Thu, 07 Mar 2024 03:00:38 +0000
    Mitchell Holman <noemail@verizon.net> wrote:

    pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
    news:usavri$m479$4@dont-email.me:



    Even Musk realizes we are going to see attacks that will make 9-11
    look like a walk in the park.


    And who was president when the
    9/11 attacks happened?


    And which pResident failed to jail bin Laden?

    https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2001-dec-05-oe-ijaz05-story.html

    President Clinton and his national security team ignored several opportunities to capture Osama bin Laden and his terrorist associates, including one as late as last year.

    I know because I negotiated more than one of the opportunities.

    From 1996 to 1998, I opened unofficial channels between Sudan and the Clinton administration. I met with officials in both countries, including Clinton, U.S. National Security Advisor Samuel R. “Sandy” Berger and Sudan’s president and intelligence
    chief.

    President Omar Hassan Ahmed Bashir, who wanted terrorism sanctions against Sudan lifted, offered the arrest and extradition of Bin Laden and detailed intelligence data about the global networks constructed by Egypt’s Islamic Jihad, Iran’s Hezbollah
    and the Palestinian Hamas.

    Among those in the networks were the two hijackers who piloted commercial airliners into the World Trade Center.

    The silence of the Clinton administration in responding to these offers was deafening.

    As an American Muslim and a political supporter of Clinton, I feel now, as I argued with Clinton and Berger then, that their counter-terrorism policies fueled the rise of Bin Laden from an ordinary man to a Hydra-like monster.

    Realizing the growing problem with Bin Laden, Bashir sent key intelligence officials to the U.S. in February 1996.

    The Sudanese offered to arrest Bin Laden and extradite him to Saudi Arabia or, barring that, to “baby-sit” him--monitoring all his activities and associates.

    But Saudi officials didn’t want their home-grown terrorist back where he might plot to overthrow them.

    In May 1996, the Sudanese capitulated to U.S. pressure and asked Bin Laden to leave, despite their feeling that he could be monitored better in Sudan than elsewhere.

    Bin Laden left for Afghanistan, taking with him Ayman Zawahiri, considered by the U.S. to be the chief planner of the Sept. 11 attacks; Mamdouh Mahmud Salim, who traveled frequently to Germany to obtain electronic equipment for Al Qaeda; Wadih El-Hage,
    Bin Laden’s personal secretary and roving emissary, now serving a life sentence in the U.S. for his role in the 1998 U.S. embassy bombings in Tanzania and Kenya; and Fazul Abdullah Mohammed and Saif Adel, also accused of carrying out the embassy
    attacks.

    Some of these men are now among the FBI’s 22 most-wanted terrorists.

    The two men who allegedly piloted the planes into the twin towers, Mohamed Atta and Marwan Al-Shehhi, prayed in the same Hamburg mosque as did Salim and Mamoun Darkazanli, a Syrian trader who managed Salim’s bank accounts and whose assets are frozen.

    Important data on each had been compiled by the Sudanese.

    But U.S. authorities repeatedly turned the data away, first in February 1996; then again that August, when at my suggestion Sudan’s religious ideologue, Hassan Turabi, wrote directly to Clinton; then again in April 1997, when I persuaded Bashir to
    invite the FBI to come to Sudan and view the data; and finally in February 1998, when Sudan’s intelligence chief, Gutbi al-Mahdi, wrote directly to the FBI.

    Gutbi had shown me some of Sudan’s data during a three-hour meeting in Khartoum in October 1996. When I returned to Washington, I told Berger and his specialist for East Africa, Susan Rice, about the data available. They said they’d get back to me.
    They never did. Neither did they respond when Bashir made the offer directly. I believe they never had any intention to engage Muslim countries--ally or not. Radical Islam, for the administration, was a convenient national security threat.

    And that was not the end of it. In July 2000--three months before the deadly attack on the destroyer Cole in Yemen--I brought the White House another plausible offer to deal with Bin Laden, by then known to be involved in the embassy bombings. A senior
    counter-terrorism official from one of the United States’ closest Arab allies--an ally whose name I am not free to divulge--approached me with the proposal after telling me he was fed up with the antics and arrogance of U.S. counter-terrorism officials.

    The offer, which would have brought Bin Laden to the Arab country as the first step of an extradition process that would eventually deliver him to the U.S., required only that Clinton make a state visit there to personally request Bin Laden’s
    extradition. But senior Clinton officials sabotaged the offer, letting it get caught up in internal politics within the ruling family--Clintonian diplomacy at its best.

    Clinton’s failure to grasp the opportunity to unravel increasingly
    organized extremists, coupled with Berger’s assessments of their
    potential to directly threaten the U.S., represents one of the most
    serious foreign policy failures in American history.

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  • From alkanamana@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Sun Apr 7 13:03:43 2024
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    On Wed, 06 Mar 2024 23:31:42 -0500
    Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:

    Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

    Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine!

    Says the chickenhawk who won't go mercenary and serve there.

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  • From alkanamana@21:1/5 to Mitchell Holman on Sun Apr 7 13:03:10 2024
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    On Wed, 06 Mar 2024 03:04:13 +0000
    Mitchell Holman <noemail@verizon.net> wrote:

    Jurors would refuse to convict,

    BULLSHIT LIE!

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  • From Phil Hendry's Chop Shop@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Mon Apr 8 08:38:19 2024
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    On Wed, 06 Mar 2024 23:31:42 -0500
    Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:

    It's common knowledge that
    ...another tRudy sock puppet:


    From: Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com>
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    Now tRudy, can you fire up your Gunner Asch sock too?

    You pathetic traitor to America.

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  • From Phil Hendry's Chop Shop@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Mon Apr 8 08:18:45 2024
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    On Wed, 06 Mar 2024 23:31:42 -0500
    Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:

    Then isn't it about time we CHANGED that system?
    Why do we share something as vital to national security as our SPACE
    PROGRAM with the Russians?

    Why would any nation do something like THAT with their alleged "mortal frenemies"?

    https://www.nasa.gov/history/50-years-ago-the-united-states-and-the-soviet-union-sign-a-space-cooperation-agreement/


    "On May 24, 1972, during their summit meeting in Moscow, the leaders of
    the United States and the Soviet Union, President Richard M. Nixon and
    Premier Aleksei N. Kosygin, signed an agreement on cooperation in
    space. One of its articles called for the development of a joint system
    to allow their spacecraft to dock with each other in orbit, laying the groundwork for the Apollo-Soyuz Test Project, the first international
    human spaceflight carried out in July 1975."

    Wakey, wakey cupcake - not only did Tricky Dick open the door to the
    Chicoms he put us in "outer" space with the USSR!

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