• Re: Gangland Killings: Violent Nonstate Actors and Naive Policies Are D

    From 186283@ud0s4.net@21:1/5 to All on Sun Sep 1 18:11:09 2024
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    On 9/1/24 5:35 PM, Leroy N. Soetoro wrote:


    Stuff.

    One note ... the govt/police are not alien robots (yet)
    so it is an error to try and subdivide a 'crime problem'
    into a non-State half.

    'Civvie' criminal orgs seek to improve their position
    through bribery and/or intimidation of State actors.
    Starts with street cops and moves all the way up.

    Al Capone gained unchallenged power in Chicago because he
    owned the key pols and judges. Mexican cartels seem to be
    using similar methods - though are a bit more prone to
    saving cash and going with intimidation instead.

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  • From pothead@21:1/5 to 186282@ud0s4.net on Sun Sep 1 22:26:08 2024
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    On 2024-09-01, 186282@ud0s4.net <186283@ud0s4.net> wrote:
    On 9/1/24 5:35 PM, Leroy N. Soetoro wrote:


    Stuff.

    One note ... the govt/police are not alien robots (yet)
    so it is an error to try and subdivide a 'crime problem'
    into a non-State half.

    'Civvie' criminal orgs seek to improve their position
    through bribery and/or intimidation of State actors.
    Starts with street cops and moves all the way up.

    Al Capone gained unchallenged power in Chicago because he
    owned the key pols and judges. Mexican cartels seem to be
    using similar methods - though are a bit more prone to
    saving cash and going with intimidation instead.

    Interesting.
    Back during the "summer of love" BLM, ANTIFA riots I was wondering the same thing. Were officials
    in high places being paid off to look the other way and stand down?
    Anything is possible.

    --
    pothead
    Kamala Harris Is A Marxist
    Tampon Tim Walz Is A Radical Left Wing Nutjob
    They Are A Match Made In Heaven

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  • From 186283@ud0s4.net@21:1/5 to All on Sun Sep 1 23:29:08 2024
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    On 9/1/24 6:31 PM, % wrote:
    pothead wrote:
    On 2024-09-01, 186282@ud0s4.net <186283@ud0s4.net> wrote:
    On 9/1/24 5:35 PM, Leroy N. Soetoro wrote:


    Stuff.

    One note ... the govt/police are not alien robots (yet)
    so it is an error to try and subdivide a 'crime problem'
    into a non-State half.

    'Civvie' criminal orgs seek to improve their position
    through bribery and/or intimidation of State actors.
    Starts with street cops and moves all the way up.

    Al Capone gained unchallenged power in Chicago because he
    owned the key pols and judges. Mexican cartels seem to be
    using similar methods - though are a bit more prone to
    saving cash and going with intimidation instead.

    Interesting.
    Back during the "summer of love" BLM, ANTIFA riots I was wondering the
    same thing. Were officials
    in high places being paid off to look the other way and stand down?
    Anything is possible.

    there was no such thing as BLM, or ANTIFA in the 60's

    The time of BLM/ANTIFA is ALSO sometimes described
    as the "summer of love". Same idiot neo-hippies,
    screaming rads, same idiocies, same "It's all because
    we LOVE you" attitude.

    Keep up.

    Amazing how circular sociopolitics can be ... a lot
    of it must be "built in", wired into the species.
    The knees jerk in harmony ......

    Or is that too deep for you - ruin the "It's all
    OUR idea !" hubris ?

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  • From 186283@ud0s4.net@21:1/5 to pothead on Sun Sep 1 23:20:24 2024
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    On 9/1/24 6:26 PM, pothead wrote:
    On 2024-09-01, 186282@ud0s4.net <186283@ud0s4.net> wrote:
    On 9/1/24 5:35 PM, Leroy N. Soetoro wrote:


    Stuff.

    One note ... the govt/police are not alien robots (yet)
    so it is an error to try and subdivide a 'crime problem'
    into a non-State half.

    'Civvie' criminal orgs seek to improve their position
    through bribery and/or intimidation of State actors.
    Starts with street cops and moves all the way up.

    Al Capone gained unchallenged power in Chicago because he
    owned the key pols and judges. Mexican cartels seem to be
    using similar methods - though are a bit more prone to
    saving cash and going with intimidation instead.

    Interesting.
    Back during the "summer of love" BLM, ANTIFA riots I was wondering the same thing. Were officials
    in high places being paid off to look the other way and stand down?
    Anything is possible.


    Check the Soros bank accounts ...

    The old shit has ONE mission now - to destroy
    US/Western civ.

    Should have been extradited LONG ago. I wonder why
    that never happened ? Always "complications" ...

    I keep getting this picture of 'emperor Palpatine',
    pulling strings, arranging circumstances, just
    behind the veil. A true Machiavellian.

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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Mon Sep 2 08:14:20 2024
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    Governor Swill wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

    On Sun, 1 Sep 2024 23:20:24 -0400, "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> wrote:

    Should have been extradited LONG ago.

    <laughs and points>

    I love it when you lose control of your emotions! Your jokes are MUCH funnier
    then!

    He seems to have SDS.

    --
    Q: What's the contour integral around Western Europe?
    A: Zero, because all the Poles are in Eastern Europe!
    Q: An English mathematician (I forgot who) was asked by his
    very religious colleague: Do you believe in one God?
    A: Yes, up to isomorphism!

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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Mon Sep 2 10:09:37 2024
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    Governor Swill wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

    On Mon, 2 Sep 2024 08:14:20 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:

    Governor Swill wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

    On Sun, 1 Sep 2024 23:20:24 -0400, "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> wrote:

    Should have been extradited LONG ago.

    <laughs and points>

    I love it when you lose control of your emotions! Your jokes are MUCH funnier
    then!

    He seems to have SDS.

    SDS?

    Soros Derangedment Syndrome. (I made that up).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Soros_conspiracy_theories

    "For two decades, some have seen Soros as a kind of puppet master secretly
    controlling the global economy and politics." The New York Times
    describes the allegations as moving "from the dark corners of the internet
    and talk radio" to "the very center of the political debate" by 2018.
    Professor Armin Langer has noted that Soros is "the perfect code word" for
    conspiracy theories that unite antisemitism and Islamophobia.

    SDS used to mean "Students for a Democratic Society" where the democratic part meant democracy, not the Democratic party.

    1960's stuff.

    --
    But I was there and I saw what you did, I saw it with my own two eyes.
    So you can wipe off that grin; I know where you've been--
    It's all been a pack of lies!

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  • From Alan Bond@21:1/5 to All on Mon Sep 2 07:32:43 2024
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    On 9/1/2024 8:20 PM, 186282@ud0s4.net took his hands and mouth off Xi's dick long enough to peck:

    On 9/1/24 6:26 PM, pothead wrote:
    On 2024-09-01, 186282@ud0s4.net took his hands and mouth off Xi's dick long enough to peck:

    On 9/1/24 5:35 PM, Leroy N. Soetoro wrote:


    Stuff.

    One note ... the govt/police are not alien robots (yet)
    so it is an error to try and subdivide a 'crime problem'
    into a non-State half.

    'Civvie' criminal orgs seek to improve their position
    through bribery and/or intimidation of State actors.
    Starts with street cops and moves all the way up.

    Al Capone gained unchallenged power in Chicago because he
    owned the key pols and judges. Mexican cartels seem to be
    using similar methods - though are a bit more prone to
    saving cash and going with intimidation instead.

    Interesting.
    Back during the "summer of love" BLM, ANTIFA riots I was wondering the same >> thing. Were officials
    in high places being paid off to look the other way and stand down?
    Anything is possible.


      Check the Soros bank accounts

    Ha ha ha ha ha!


      The old shit has ONE mission now - to destroy
      US/Western civ.

    Ha ha ha ha ha!


      Should have been extradited LONG ago.

    He *lives* in the U.S., you stupid fuck.

    < I wonder why that never happened ?

    Because he *lives* in the U.S., you stupid fuck.

    What do you want him charged with, you stupid Little Person fuck?


      I keep getting this picture of 'emperor Palpatine',
      pulling strings, arranging circumstances, just
      behind the veil. A true Machiavellian.

    Spoken like a classic Little Person.

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  • From Lil dwarf Rudey@21:1/5 to Alan Bond on Mon Sep 2 10:28:03 2024
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    Alan Bond wrote:
    you stupid Little Person


    Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A
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    socks wrote:

    Multiple death threats against Trump: --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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    Oh poor me I got shot at ...

    Swill ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


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    Cheer up, maybe someone else will try.

    Swill

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    From: J Carlson <j_carlson@gmx.com>
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    No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
    thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
    is an important step to getting there.

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    That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:


    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
    18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the Presidency
    U.S. Code
    Notes
    prev | next
    (a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
    or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
    letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
    threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
    the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
    President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
    of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
    knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
    President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
    order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
    shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
    or both.
    (b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
    candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
    respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
    held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
    accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
    phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
    order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
    United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
    (June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
    Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L. 97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

    9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
    Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
    Service Protectees
    The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
    supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
    caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
    the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
    U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
    United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
    involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
    settlement involving a § 871 charge.


    https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

    PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
    for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
    Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
    counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
    and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

    The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
    living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
    to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
    November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
    statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
    U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
    crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
    series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

    Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
    Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
    up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
    of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
    five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release.

    A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
    criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
    presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
    guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

    The United States Secret Service is conducting the investigation in this
    case. The United States Attorney’s Office, District of Arizona, is
    handling the prosecution.


    Those can be reported here:

    https://tips.fbi.gov/home

    https://www.justice.gov/action-center/report-crime-or-submit-complaint

    https://www.secretservice.gov/contact

    https://www.dhs.gov/see-something-say-something/reporting/california


    Fellow citizens, won't you join in ending Rudey's terrorism here?

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  • From Lil dwarf Rudey@21:1/5 to Alan Bond on Mon Sep 2 10:19:05 2024
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    Alan Bond wrote:
    Spoken like a classic Little Person.


    Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A
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    Oh poor me I got shot at ...

    Swill ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


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    Cheer up, maybe someone else will try.

    Swill

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    From: J Carlson <j_carlson@gmx.com>
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    No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
    thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
    is an important step to getting there.

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    That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:


    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
    18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the Presidency
    U.S. Code
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    (a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
    or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
    letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
    threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
    the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
    President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
    of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
    knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
    President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
    order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
    shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
    or both.
    (b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
    candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
    respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
    held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
    accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
    phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
    order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
    United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
    (June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
    Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L. 97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

    9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
    Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
    Service Protectees
    The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
    supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
    caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
    the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
    U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
    United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
    involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
    settlement involving a § 871 charge.


    https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

    PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
    for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
    Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
    counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
    and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

    The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
    living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
    to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
    November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
    statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
    U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
    crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
    series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

    Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
    Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
    up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
    of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
    five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release.

    A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
    criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
    presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
    guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

    The United States Secret Service is conducting the investigation in this
    case. The United States Attorney’s Office, District of Arizona, is
    handling the prosecution.


    Those can be reported here:

    https://tips.fbi.gov/home

    https://www.justice.gov/action-center/report-crime-or-submit-complaint

    https://www.secretservice.gov/contact

    https://www.dhs.gov/see-something-say-something/reporting/california


    Fellow citizens, won't you join in ending Rudey's terrorism here?

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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Tue Sep 3 06:32:59 2024
    XPost: alt.politics.elections, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics
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    Governor Swill wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

    On Mon, 2 Sep 2024 10:09:37 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:

    SDS used to mean "Students for a Democratic Society" where the democratic part
    meant democracy, not the Democratic party.

    1960's stuff.

    Don't make me feel old again or I'll have to hurt you.

    Too late. I already got three plates in my neck and artificial hips. Partly due to too much soccer and pavement running.

    --
    With a rubber duck, one's never alone.
    -- "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy"

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