• Judge says New York can't use 'antiquated, unconstitutional' law to blo

    From useapen@21:1/5 to All on Sun Nov 10 08:54:16 2024
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    NEW YORK (AP) — New York City can't use an unconstitutional, two-
    century-old “anti-pauper” law to block the state of Texas from offering migrants free bus rides to the city from the southern border, a state
    judge has ruled.

    The court on Thursday dismissed a lawsuit brought by Mayor Eric Adams
    in January against charter bus companies contracted by Texas Gov. Greg
    Abbott. It sought to bar them from knowingly dropping off “needy
    persons,” citing an 1817 state law that criminalized bringing an
    indigent person into the state “for the purpose of making him a public
    charge.”

    Justice Mary Rosado said in a sternly worded decision that the law is unconstitutional for several reasons.

    For one, she wrote, states are not permitted to regulate the interstate transportation of people based on their economic status.

    The statute also “violates a fundamental right — the right to travel,”
    she added.

    Rosado said requiring bus operators to screen passengers based on the possibility that they may need public assistance when they get to their destination would infringe on that fundamental right, and punishing the
    bus companies for failing to keep poor people out of the city would be improper.

    The judge concluded by saying that if city officials want to do
    something, they should turn to Congress rather than ask the court to
    enforce “an antiquated, unconstitutional statute to infringe on an
    individual's right to enter New York based on economic status.”

    Starting in 2022, the state of Texas began offering migrants free bus
    rides to cities with Democratic mayors. At least 46,000 were sent to
    New York, 19,000 to Denver, 37,000 to Chicago and over 17,000 to other
    cities, according to Abbott's office.

    At the time, Adams, a Democrat, said the trips were illegal and
    amounted to “political ploys from the state of Texas.”

    It would have been difficult for New York City to sue Texas due to a
    legal doctrine known as sovereign immunity, so it went after the
    private charter companies instead.

    Despite the court loss, the Adams administration said the lawsuit has
    had its desired effect: Fewer charter buses brought immigrants to the
    city after it was filed, and none have been identified since June,
    according to a statement from his office. Adams has not given up on
    further action, either.

    “We are reviewing our legal options to address the costs shifted to New
    York City as a result of the Texas busing scheme,” mayoral spokesperson
    Liz Garcia said in a statement.

    The New York Civil Liberties Union applauded the court's decision.

    “Mayor Adams is not above the law and cannot keep wrongly exploiting
    the plight of newly arrived immigrants to bolster his own political
    agenda,” NYCLU senior staff lawyer Beth Haroules said. “Everyone,
    regardless of their citizenship status or income, has the right to
    freely travel and reside anywhere within the United States.”

    Abbot said during one visit to New York City that Adams was right to be
    upset about the surge in migrants but should be blaming President Joe
    Biden.

    Adams ultimately did criticize the federal government, saying it had an obligation to help the city pay for housing and providing services to
    migrants.

    New York has long provided shelter to more homeless people than any
    other U.S. city, in part because of a 1981 court ruling requiring it to
    shelter anyone who asks for it. City officials say they have provided
    shelter and other services to more than 200,000 immigrants in the past
    two years, only a fraction of whom arrived via Texas-sponsored buses.

    As the new arrivals swelled, New York and other cities ended up
    following Abbott's lead, offering migrants free bus tickets to other
    places. New York paid over 4,800 fares for immigrants to travel to
    Texas, including some who had been bused from there, according to city officials.

    https://www.chron.com/news/article/judge-says-new-york-can-t-use- antiquated-19901371.php

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to useapen on Mon Nov 11 10:58:13 2024
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    "useapen" <yourdime@outlook.com> wrote in message news:XnsB22693325A3BX@135.181.20.170...
    NEW YORK (AP) - New York City can't use an unconstitutional, two-
    century-old "anti-pauper" law to block the state of Texas from offering migrants free bus rides to the city from the southern border, a state
    judge has ruled.

    Besides.. didn't the Mayor of New York and the City council announce that
    NYC was a Sanctuary City that welcomed all immigrants regardless of their
    legal status...

    Must suck that the judge is taking them at their word.

    All I can say is whoever thought of sending a load to Martha's Vineyard
    should have been given a promotion and a raise..

    They couldn't act fast enough to throw those immigrants off the island..

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  • From pothead@21:1/5 to Scout on Mon Nov 11 18:31:41 2024
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    On 2024-11-11, Scout <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:


    "useapen" <yourdime@outlook.com> wrote in message news:XnsB22693325A3BX@135.181.20.170...
    NEW YORK (AP) - New York City can't use an unconstitutional, two-
    century-old "anti-pauper" law to block the state of Texas from offering
    migrants free bus rides to the city from the southern border, a state
    judge has ruled.

    Besides.. didn't the Mayor of New York and the City council announce that
    NYC was a Sanctuary City that welcomed all immigrants regardless of their legal status...

    Must suck that the judge is taking them at their word.

    All I can say is whoever thought of sending a load to Martha's Vineyard should have been given a promotion and a raise..

    Yep.
    It was brilliant.

    They couldn't act fast enough to throw those immigrants off the island..

    Indeed.
    I've been to MV and it makes much of The Hamptons look like a slum.




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  • From pothead@21:1/5 to 186282@ud0s4.net on Tue Nov 12 03:23:41 2024
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    On 2024-11-12, 186282@ud0s4.net <186283@ud0s4.net> wrote:
    On 11/11/24 1:31 PM, pothead wrote:
    On 2024-11-11, Scout <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:


    "useapen" <yourdime@outlook.com> wrote in message
    news:XnsB22693325A3BX@135.181.20.170...
    NEW YORK (AP) - New York City can't use an unconstitutional, two-
    century-old "anti-pauper" law to block the state of Texas from offering >>>> migrants free bus rides to the city from the southern border, a state
    judge has ruled.

    Besides.. didn't the Mayor of New York and the City council announce that >>> NYC was a Sanctuary City that welcomed all immigrants regardless of their >>> legal status...

    Must suck that the judge is taking them at their word.

    All I can say is whoever thought of sending a load to Martha's Vineyard
    should have been given a promotion and a raise..

    Yep.
    It was brilliant.


    It was DeSantis.


    They couldn't act fast enough to throw those immigrants off the island..

    Indeed.
    I've been to MV and it makes much of The Hamptons look like a slum.


    Yep ... the deep deep hypocrisy of the wunnerful
    all-so-superior left was instantly exposed during
    the Martha's event. "We LOVE all the poor immigrants
    of the world - so long as they don't show up in
    OUR back yard"

    Between DeSantis and Abbott sending the wetbacks north
    en-masse ... indeed genius and, politically, VERY
    effective.

    The working class has finally woken up and realized that the democrats
    and the elite have been playing them for suckers for decades.

    Good for them.



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  • From 186283@ud0s4.net@21:1/5 to pothead on Mon Nov 11 22:18:39 2024
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    On 11/11/24 1:31 PM, pothead wrote:
    On 2024-11-11, Scout <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:


    "useapen" <yourdime@outlook.com> wrote in message
    news:XnsB22693325A3BX@135.181.20.170...
    NEW YORK (AP) - New York City can't use an unconstitutional, two-
    century-old "anti-pauper" law to block the state of Texas from offering
    migrants free bus rides to the city from the southern border, a state
    judge has ruled.

    Besides.. didn't the Mayor of New York and the City council announce that
    NYC was a Sanctuary City that welcomed all immigrants regardless of their
    legal status...

    Must suck that the judge is taking them at their word.

    All I can say is whoever thought of sending a load to Martha's Vineyard
    should have been given a promotion and a raise..

    Yep.
    It was brilliant.


    It was DeSantis.


    They couldn't act fast enough to throw those immigrants off the island..

    Indeed.
    I've been to MV and it makes much of The Hamptons look like a slum.


    Yep ... the deep deep hypocrisy of the wunnerful
    all-so-superior left was instantly exposed during
    the Martha's event. "We LOVE all the poor immigrants
    of the world - so long as they don't show up in
    OUR back yard"

    Between DeSantis and Abbott sending the wetbacks north
    en-masse ... indeed genius and, politically, VERY
    effective.

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  • From 186283@ud0s4.net@21:1/5 to pothead on Tue Nov 12 00:14:01 2024
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    XPost: alt.politics.usa

    On 11/11/24 10:23 PM, pothead wrote:
    On 2024-11-12, 186282@ud0s4.net <186283@ud0s4.net> wrote:
    On 11/11/24 1:31 PM, pothead wrote:
    On 2024-11-11, Scout <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote: >>>>

    "useapen" <yourdime@outlook.com> wrote in message
    news:XnsB22693325A3BX@135.181.20.170...
    NEW YORK (AP) - New York City can't use an unconstitutional, two-
    century-old "anti-pauper" law to block the state of Texas from offering >>>>> migrants free bus rides to the city from the southern border, a state >>>>> judge has ruled.

    Besides.. didn't the Mayor of New York and the City council announce that >>>> NYC was a Sanctuary City that welcomed all immigrants regardless of their >>>> legal status...

    Must suck that the judge is taking them at their word.

    All I can say is whoever thought of sending a load to Martha's Vineyard >>>> should have been given a promotion and a raise..

    Yep.
    It was brilliant.


    It was DeSantis.


    They couldn't act fast enough to throw those immigrants off the island.. >>>
    Indeed.
    I've been to MV and it makes much of The Hamptons look like a slum.


    Yep ... the deep deep hypocrisy of the wunnerful
    all-so-superior left was instantly exposed during
    the Martha's event. "We LOVE all the poor immigrants
    of the world - so long as they don't show up in
    OUR back yard"

    Between DeSantis and Abbott sending the wetbacks north
    en-masse ... indeed genius and, politically, VERY
    effective.

    The working class has finally woken up and realized that the democrats
    and the elite have been playing them for suckers for decades.

    Good for them.

    The Dem IDEA was to flood those horrible 'red' states
    with 'immigrants' - THAT'LL TEACH 'EM !

    However DeSantis and Abbott figured out how to turn
    that scheme on its head. NOW the blue states are
    relatively hip-deep in 'immigrants' (yet, despite
    their upset, it's still not as bad as it's been
    for the red states). Revolt against 'immigrants'
    in the blue DID help swing the election. Imagine
    if it had been possible to send even MORE there !

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  • From Siri Cruise@21:1/5 to 186282@ud0s4.net on Mon Nov 11 23:10:37 2024
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    186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
      The Dem IDEA was to flood those horrible 'red' states
      with 'immigrants' - THAT'LL TEACH 'EM !

    California is a red state?

      However DeSantis and Abbott figured out how to turn
      that scheme on its head. NOW the blue states are
      relatively hip-deep in 'immigrants' (yet, despite
      their upset, it's still not as bad as it's been
      for the red states). Revolt against 'immigrants'
      in the blue DID help swing the election. Imagine
      if it had been possible to send even MORE there !

    <https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article287896095.html>

    Some of the 49 migrants flown to Martha’s Vineyard by the state of
    Florida are now able to legally work in the United States and have
    temporary protections from deportation — because they are
    considered victims of a potential crime, their attorney says. The
    migrants are eligible for protections because they applied for a
    special kind of visa meant for crime victims who are helping law
    enforcement in the investigation of suspected criminal activity.
    They applied for what are known as U visas last year after they
    said they had been tricked into taking charter flights from San
    Antonio, Texas to the Massachusetts island with false promises of
    jobs and other aid, said Rachel Self, an attorney for the
    migrants. The migrant flight program — a taxpayer-funded operation
    led by Gov. Ron DeSantis and a politically connected private
    contractor — was designed to remove “unauthorized aliens” from
    Florida. But critics, including immigration advocacy groups, have
    pointed out that the migrants had legal status in the United
    States as asylum seekers and that they were found in Texas, not
    Florida.

    Read more at: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article287896095.html#storylink=cpy
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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to All on Mon Nov 11 11:55:04 2024
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    "Klaus Schadenfreude" <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentöter.@gmail.com> wrote
    in message news:8me4jjd9gr5n238hi0b3cq0sggdj2sukgi@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging.cocksucking.dwarf.com...
    [Default] "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> typed:



    "useapen" <yourdime@outlook.com> wrote in message >>news:XnsB22693325A3BX@135.181.20.170...
    NEW YORK (AP) - New York City can't use an unconstitutional, two-
    century-old "anti-pauper" law to block the state of Texas from offering
    migrants free bus rides to the city from the southern border, a state
    judge has ruled.

    Besides.. didn't the Mayor of New York and the City council announce that >>NYC was a Sanctuary City that welcomed all immigrants regardless of their >>legal status...

    Must suck that the judge is taking them at their word.

    All I can say is whoever thought of sending a load to Martha's Vineyard >>should have been given a promotion and a raise..

    They couldn't act fast enough to throw those immigrants off the island..

    Don't places like Australia require a certain amount of income before
    letting you into the country to apply for citizenship?

    I believe so, and I think some immigrants may even need a sponsor who
    promises them employment.

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