• Florida Gov. DeSantis signs sweeping immigration bills

    From P. Coonan@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 14 20:23:40 2025
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    TALLAHASSEE - Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis signed into law two far-reaching immigration enforcement bills on Thursday, paving the way for stricter penalties, new enforcement measures and the creation of a state
    immigration board designed to coordinate with federal officials.

    "Today the state has passed the strongest legislation to combat illegal immigration of any state in the country," DeSantis told reporters.

    The legislation aims to position Florida as a key player in helping former President Donald Trump identify and deport undocumented immigrants.

    The bills, passed by the Florida House and Senate, include stiffer
    penalties for undocumented immigrants who commit crimes, tougher
    enforcement requirements for local officials and changes to the state's controversial migrant transport program.

    The approvals of the legislation culminated three special sessions in two
    weeks on the immigration issue. The efforts got off to a rocky start last
    month after DeSantis called a special session.

    Creation of a state immigration board
    The State Board of Immigration Enforcement will be made up of the
    governor, agriculture commissioner, attorney general and state chief
    financial officer.

    The board would coordinate immigration enforcement activities with federal officials and dole out $250 million in grants to local law-enforcement
    agencies to assist federal enforcement efforts. Decisions made by the
    board would have to be unanimous.

    Death penalty for convicted criminals
    One of the more controversial bills requires that undocumented immigrants convicted of first-degree murder or raping children face a mandatory death sentence in Florida.

    House Democrats questioned the constitutionality of the death penalty requirement. Minority Leader Fentrice Driskell pointed to a House staff analysis that said the U.S. Supreme Court has ruled that mandatory death sentences are unconstitutional.

    Rep. Sam Garrison, attorney whohelped sponsor the bill, acknowledged the
    issue would be litigated but said nothing in the bill "erodes the rights"
    of people in the criminal justice system

    The bill also makes it a misdemeanor for undocumented immigrants over age
    18 to "knowingly" enter Florida "after entering the U.S. by eluding or
    avoiding examination or inspection by immigration officers." The measure carries a nine-month jail sentence for first-time violators. Second-time offenders would face felony charges carrying a minimum sentence of a year
    and a day behind bars.

    Changes to migrant transport program
    Another bill makes significant changes to a 2023 law that created the "Unauthorized Alien Transport Program" within the state Division of
    Emergency Management. Lawmakers in 2023 steered $12 million to the agency, bolstering DeSantis' efforts to relocate undocumented immigrants to places
    such as Martha's Vineyard in Massachusetts.

    Under the new plan, the state agency can only transport migrants out of
    the state if federal immigration officials "specifically request
    assistance," cover the costs of the travel and oversee the operations.

    Tougher penalties and enforcement measures
    Another measure requires sheriffs and county jail administrators to
    cooperate with federal immigration officials and participate in what is
    known as the 287(g) program and report undocumented immigrants to federal authorities.

    The bill would impose $5,000 fines and suspension from office for county
    or municipal officials who refuse to comply with immigration detainers
    issued by a federal agency.

    It also increases penalties and requires pretrial detention for
    undocumented immigrants who commit forcible felonies, something already required for other serious violent crimes.

    The measure also does away with in-state tuition for undocumented
    immigrant students.

    The bills have the support of Governor Ron DeSantis, ending two weeks of tension between the governor and top Republican leadership.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/miami/news/desantis-signs-lawmakers-approve- sweeping-new-immigration-crackdowns/?intcid=CNR-01-0623

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to P. Coonan on Fri Feb 14 15:47:31 2025
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    On 2/14/25 15:23, P. Coonan wrote:
    TALLAHASSEE - Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis signed into law two far-reaching immigration enforcement bills on Thursday, paving the way for stricter penalties, new enforcement measures and the creation of a state
    immigration board designed to coordinate with federal officials.

    "Today the state has passed the strongest legislation to combat illegal immigration of any state in the country," DeSantis told reporters.

    The legislation aims to position Florida as a key player in helping former President Donald Trump identify and deport undocumented immigrants.

    The bills, passed by the Florida House and Senate, include stiffer
    penalties for undocumented immigrants who commit crimes, tougher
    enforcement requirements for local officials and changes to the state's controversial migrant transport program.

    The approvals of the legislation culminated three special sessions in two weeks on the immigration issue. The efforts got off to a rocky start last month after DeSantis called a special session.

    Creation of a state immigration board
    The State Board of Immigration Enforcement will be made up of the
    governor, agriculture commissioner, attorney general and state chief financial officer.

    The board would coordinate immigration enforcement activities with federal officials and dole out $250 million in grants to local law-enforcement agencies to assist federal enforcement efforts. Decisions made by the
    board would have to be unanimous.

    Death penalty for convicted criminals
    One of the more controversial bills requires that undocumented immigrants convicted of first-degree murder or raping children face a mandatory death sentence in Florida.

    House Democrats questioned the constitutionality of the death penalty requirement. Minority Leader Fentrice Driskell pointed to a House staff analysis that said the U.S. Supreme Court has ruled that mandatory death sentences are unconstitutional.

    Rep. Sam Garrison, attorney whohelped sponsor the bill, acknowledged the issue would be litigated but said nothing in the bill "erodes the rights"
    of people in the criminal justice system

    The bill also makes it a misdemeanor for undocumented immigrants over age
    18 to "knowingly" enter Florida "after entering the U.S. by eluding or avoiding examination or inspection by immigration officers." The measure carries a nine-month jail sentence for first-time violators. Second-time offenders would face felony charges carrying a minimum sentence of a year
    and a day behind bars.

    Changes to migrant transport program
    Another bill makes significant changes to a 2023 law that created the "Unauthorized Alien Transport Program" within the state Division of
    Emergency Management. Lawmakers in 2023 steered $12 million to the agency, bolstering DeSantis' efforts to relocate undocumented immigrants to places such as Martha's Vineyard in Massachusetts.

    Under the new plan, the state agency can only transport migrants out of
    the state if federal immigration officials "specifically request
    assistance," cover the costs of the travel and oversee the operations.

    Tougher penalties and enforcement measures
    Another measure requires sheriffs and county jail administrators to
    cooperate with federal immigration officials and participate in what is
    known as the 287(g) program and report undocumented immigrants to federal authorities.

    The bill would impose $5,000 fines and suspension from office for county
    or municipal officials who refuse to comply with immigration detainers
    issued by a federal agency.

    It also increases penalties and requires pretrial detention for
    undocumented immigrants who commit forcible felonies, something already required for other serious violent crimes.

    The measure also does away with in-state tuition for undocumented
    immigrant students.

    The bills have the support of Governor Ron DeSantis, ending two weeks of tension between the governor and top Republican leadership.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/miami/news/desantis-signs-lawmakers-approve- sweeping-new-immigration-crackdowns/?intcid=CNR-01-0623


    I'm not about to tread through all of the above, but the last I'd heard
    on FL's immigration policy, a business caught hiring illegals had to be
    caught three (3) times before there would be any penalties assigned, and
    even then, they had a +30 day grace period to correct the problem before
    those could be applied.

    Translation:
    3 strikes + 30 day grace period = "Bob, go set up a new LLC for $150 to
    reset the violations clock."


    -hh

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  • From prunes@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 14 21:45:46 2025
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    On 14 Feb 2025, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> posted some news:vooa53$3j4nk$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2/14/25 15:23, P. Coonan wrote:
    TALLAHASSEE - Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis signed into law two
    far-reaching immigration enforcement bills on Thursday, paving the
    way for stricter penalties, new enforcement measures and the creation
    of a state immigration board designed to coordinate with federal
    officials.

    Under the new plan, the state agency can only transport migrants out
    of the state if federal immigration officials "specifically request
    assistance," cover the costs of the travel and oversee the
    operations.

    Tougher penalties and enforcement measures
    Another measure requires sheriffs and county jail administrators to
    cooperate with federal immigration officials and participate in what
    is known as the 287(g) program and report undocumented immigrants to
    federal authorities.

    The bill would impose $5,000 fines and suspension from office for
    county or municipal officials who refuse to comply with immigration
    detainers issued by a federal agency.

    It also increases penalties and requires pretrial detention for
    undocumented immigrants who commit forcible felonies, something
    already required for other serious violent crimes.

    The measure also does away with in-state tuition for undocumented
    immigrant students.

    The bills have the support of Governor Ron DeSantis, ending two weeks
    of tension between the governor and top Republican leadership.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/miami/news/desantis-signs-lawmakers-approve-
    sweeping-new-immigration-crackdowns/?intcid=CNR-01-0623


    I'm not about to tread through all of the above, but the last I'd
    heard on FL's immigration policy, a business caught hiring illegals
    had to be caught three (3) times before there would be any penalties assigned, and even then, they had a +30 day grace period to correct
    the problem before those could be applied.

    Translation:
    3 strikes + 30 day grace period = "Bob, go set up a new LLC for $150
    to reset the violations clock."

    You can be incredibly dense sometimes, you know that?

    The most recent legislation modifies the penalties for illegal aliens, not business. Business was changed last year.

    The 2024 Florida Statutes

    Title XXXI
    LABOR
    Chapter 448
    GENERAL LABOR REGULATIONS
    View Entire Chapter
    448.09 Unauthorized aliens; employment prohibited.—
    (1) It is unlawful for any person to knowingly employ, hire, recruit, or
    refer, either for herself or himself or on behalf of another, for private
    or public employment within this state, an alien who is not duly
    authorized to work by the immigration laws of the United States, the
    Attorney General of the United States, or the United States Secretary of
    the Department of Homeland Security.
    (2) If the Department of Commerce finds or is notified by an entity
    specified in s. 448.095(3)(a) that an employer has knowingly employed an unauthorized alien without verifying the employment eligibility of such
    person, the department must enter an order pursuant to chapter 120 making
    such determination and require repayment of any economic development
    incentive pursuant to s. 288.061(6).
    (3) For a violation of this section, the department shall place the
    employer on probation for a 1-year period and require that the employer
    report quarterly to the department to demonstrate compliance with the requirements of subsection (1) and s. 448.095.
    (4) Any violation of this section which takes place within 24 months after
    a previous violation constitutes grounds for the suspension or revocation
    of all licenses issued by a licensing agency subject to chapter 120. The department shall take the following actions for a violation involving:
    (a) One to ten unauthorized aliens, suspension of all applicable licenses
    held by a private employer for up to 30 days by the respective agencies
    that issued them.
    (b) Eleven to fifty unauthorized aliens, suspension of all applicable
    licenses held by a private employer for up to 60 days by the respective agencies that issued them.
    (c) More than fifty unauthorized aliens, revocation of all applicable
    licenses held by a private employer by the respective agencies that issued them.
    (5) An alien who is not duly authorized to work by the immigration laws of
    the United States, the Attorney General of the United States, or the
    United States Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security and who knowingly uses a false identification document or who fraudulently uses an identification document of another person for the purpose of obtaining employment commits a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in
    s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.
    History.—ss. 1, 2, 3, ch. 77-250; s. 193, ch. 79-400; s. 82, ch. 91-224;
    s. 168, ch. 97-103; s. 6, ch. 2023-40; s. 217, ch. 2024-6.

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  • From pothead@21:1/5 to -hh on Sat Feb 15 01:32:46 2025
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    On 2025-02-14, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
    On 2/14/25 15:23, P. Coonan wrote:
    TALLAHASSEE - Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis signed into law two far-reaching
    immigration enforcement bills on Thursday, paving the way for stricter
    penalties, new enforcement measures and the creation of a state
    immigration board designed to coordinate with federal officials.

    "Today the state has passed the strongest legislation to combat illegal
    immigration of any state in the country," DeSantis told reporters.

    -snip

    Translation:
    3 strikes + 30 day grace period = "Bob, go set up a new LLC for $150 to
    reset the violations clock."


    -hh

    'Bob' can ring up one of the Biden crime family as ask how to set up
    LLC's and shell companies.
    They are experts at it!

    See that, I found something that Biden is good at !


    --
    pothead

    Why did Joe Biden pardon his family?
    Read below to learn the reason.
    The Biden Crime Family Timeline here: https://oversight.house.gov/the-bidens-influence-peddling-timeline/

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to prunes on Fri Feb 14 22:03:53 2025
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    On 2/14/25 16:45, prunes wrote:
    On 14 Feb 2025, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> posted some news:vooa53$3j4nk$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2/14/25 15:23, P. Coonan wrote:
    TALLAHASSEE - Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis signed into law two
    far-reaching immigration enforcement bills on Thursday, paving the
    way for stricter penalties, new enforcement measures and the creation
    of a state immigration board designed to coordinate with federal
    officials.

    Under the new plan, the state agency can only transport migrants out
    of the state if federal immigration officials "specifically request
    assistance," cover the costs of the travel and oversee the
    operations.

    Tougher penalties and enforcement measures
    Another measure requires sheriffs and county jail administrators to
    cooperate with federal immigration officials and participate in what
    is known as the 287(g) program and report undocumented immigrants to
    federal authorities.

    The bill would impose $5,000 fines and suspension from office for
    county or municipal officials who refuse to comply with immigration
    detainers issued by a federal agency.

    It also increases penalties and requires pretrial detention for
    undocumented immigrants who commit forcible felonies, something
    already required for other serious violent crimes.

    The measure also does away with in-state tuition for undocumented
    immigrant students.

    The bills have the support of Governor Ron DeSantis, ending two weeks
    of tension between the governor and top Republican leadership.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/miami/news/desantis-signs-lawmakers-approve-
    sweeping-new-immigration-crackdowns/?intcid=CNR-01-0623


    I'm not about to tread through all of the above, but the last I'd
    heard on FL's immigration policy, a business caught hiring illegals
    had to be caught three (3) times before there would be any penalties
    assigned, and even then, they had a +30 day grace period to correct
    the problem before those could be applied.

    Translation:
    3 strikes + 30 day grace period = "Bob, go set up a new LLC for $150
    to reset the violations clock."

    You can be incredibly dense sometimes, you know that?

    The most recent legislation modifies the penalties for illegal aliens, not business. Business was changed last year.

    I'll see if I can find where I heard about it...ah, here's an example:

    "A graphic on the governor's website states that employers who fail to
    use E-Verify will be fined $1,000 a day. For workers, it will be a
    felony to use a false ID to get a job....But a closer look at the
    legislation clarifies that these penalties apply only after an employer
    fails to use the database three or more times within two years."

    <https://www.npr.org/2023/05/30/1177657218/florida-anti-immigration-law-1718-desantis>

    Similarly, there was SB1718 ... although its not clear if it is the same
    as what you've pasted below, since you failed to provide a URL cite for traceability:


    <https://www.flsenate.gov/committees/billsummaries/2023/html/3092>

    The above makes it clear that it only applies to employers with 25 or
    more employees too. I'd venture to opine that a lot of GCs who
    extensively hire day laborers are "< 25 employee" enterprises, so that's potentially a big old gaping loophole.


    The 2024 Florida Statutes

    Title XXXI
    LABOR
    Chapter 448
    GENERAL LABOR REGULATIONS
    View Entire Chapter
    448.09 Unauthorized aliens; employment prohibited.—
    (1) It is unlawful for any person to knowingly employ, hire, recruit, or refer, either for herself or himself or on behalf of another, for private
    or public employment within this state, an alien who is not duly
    authorized to work by the immigration laws of the United States, the
    Attorney General of the United States, or the United States Secretary of
    the Department of Homeland Security.
    (2) If the Department of Commerce finds or is notified by an entity
    specified in s. 448.095(3)(a) that an employer has knowingly employed an unauthorized alien without verifying the employment eligibility of such person, the department must enter an order pursuant to chapter 120 making such determination and require repayment of any economic development incentive pursuant to s. 288.061(6).
    (3) For a violation of this section, the department shall place the
    employer on probation for a 1-year period and require that the employer report quarterly to the department to demonstrate compliance with the requirements of subsection (1) and s. 448.095.
    (4) Any violation of this section which takes place within 24 months after
    a previous violation constitutes grounds for the suspension or revocation
    of all licenses issued by a licensing agency subject to chapter 120. The department shall take the following actions for a violation involving:
    (a) One to ten unauthorized aliens, suspension of all applicable licenses held by a private employer for up to 30 days by the respective agencies
    that issued them.
    (b) Eleven to fifty unauthorized aliens, suspension of all applicable licenses held by a private employer for up to 60 days by the respective agencies that issued them.
    (c) More than fifty unauthorized aliens, revocation of all applicable licenses held by a private employer by the respective agencies that issued them.
    (5) An alien who is not duly authorized to work by the immigration laws of the United States, the Attorney General of the United States, or the
    United States Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security and who knowingly uses a false identification document or who fraudulently uses an identification document of another person for the purpose of obtaining employment commits a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in
    s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.
    History.—ss. 1, 2, 3, ch. 77-250; s. 193, ch. 79-400; s. 82, ch. 91-224;
    s. 168, ch. 97-103; s. 6, ch. 2023-40; s. 217, ch. 2024-6.

    Lots of text ... but how about including the URL for the cite next time?


    -hh

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to pothead on Sat Feb 15 02:51:10 2025
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    pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
    news:vooqru$3ne99$3@dont-email.me:

    On 2025-02-14, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
    On 2/14/25 15:23, P. Coonan wrote:
    TALLAHASSEE - Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis signed into law two
    far-reaching immigration enforcement bills on Thursday, paving the
    way for stricter penalties, new enforcement measures and the
    creation of a state immigration board designed to coordinate with
    federal officials.

    "Today the state has passed the strongest legislation to combat
    illegal immigration of any state in the country," DeSantis told
    reporters.

    -snip

    Translation:
    3 strikes + 30 day grace period = "Bob, go set up a new LLC for $150
    to reset the violations clock."


    -hh

    'Bob' can ring up one of the Biden


    In posts about Trump you change the subject to Biden.

    In posts about DeSantis you change the subject to Biden.

    Your fixation on Biden is a psychosis.

    Seek help.

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  • From pothead@21:1/5 to Mitchell Holman on Sat Feb 15 03:15:02 2025
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    On 2025-02-15, Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> wrote:
    pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
    news:vooqru$3ne99$3@dont-email.me:

    On 2025-02-14, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
    On 2/14/25 15:23, P. Coonan wrote:
    TALLAHASSEE - Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis signed into law two
    far-reaching immigration enforcement bills on Thursday, paving the
    way for stricter penalties, new enforcement measures and the
    creation of a state immigration board designed to coordinate with
    federal officials.

    "Today the state has passed the strongest legislation to combat
    illegal immigration of any state in the country," DeSantis told
    reporters.

    -snip

    Translation:
    3 strikes + 30 day grace period = "Bob, go set up a new LLC for $150
    to reset the violations clock."


    -hh

    'Bob' can ring up one of the Biden


    In posts about Trump you change the subject to Biden.

    In posts about DeSantis you change the subject to Biden.

    I didn't change the subject nor the subject line.
    I simply offered advice for "Bob". He can take it or leave it.

    Your fixation on Biden is a psychosis.

    Projecting again Holllow?
    It's a classic democrat / libby trait.

    Seek help.

    LOL!



    --
    pothead

    Why did Joe Biden pardon his family?
    Read below to learn the reason.
    The Biden Crime Family Timeline here: https://oversight.house.gov/the-bidens-influence-peddling-timeline/

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  • From Vincent@21:1/5 to Mitchell Holman on Fri Feb 14 20:05:52 2025
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    On 2/14/2025 6:51 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
    news:vooqru$3ne99$3@dont-email.me:

    On 2025-02-14, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
    On 2/14/25 15:23, P. Coonan wrote:
    TALLAHASSEE - Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis signed into law two
    far-reaching immigration enforcement bills on Thursday, paving the
    way for stricter penalties, new enforcement measures and the
    creation of a state immigration board designed to coordinate with
    federal officials.

    "Today the state has passed the strongest legislation to combat
    illegal immigration of any state in the country," DeSantis told
    reporters.

    -snip

    Translation:
    3 strikes + 30 day grace period = "Bob, go set up a new LLC for $150
    to reset the violations clock."


    -hh

    'Bob' can ring up one of the Biden


    In posts about Trump you change the subject to Biden.

    In posts about DeSantis you change the subject to Biden.

    So what? You snip groups. Groups restored.

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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to Mitchell Holman on Sat Feb 15 10:13:28 2025
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    Mitchell Holman wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in news:vop0rl$3ocef$2@dont-email.me:

    'Bob' can ring up one of the Biden

    In posts about Trump you change the subject to Biden.
    In posts about DeSantis you change the subject to Biden.

    I didn't change the subject nor the subject line.

    The article is about DeSantis.
    The reply is about DeSantis.
    And you change the subject to Biden.
    Always, you change the subject to Biden.

    Maybe crockpot is yearning for some of that "weak Biden drizzle".

    --
    Air Force Inertia Axiom:
    Consistency is always easier to defend than correctness.

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to pothead on Sat Feb 15 14:31:58 2025
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    pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in news:vop0rl$3ocef$2@dont-email.me:

    On 2025-02-15, Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> wrote:
    pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
    news:vooqru$3ne99$3@dont-email.me:

    On 2025-02-14, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
    On 2/14/25 15:23, P. Coonan wrote:
    TALLAHASSEE - Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis signed into law two
    far-reaching immigration enforcement bills on Thursday, paving the
    way for stricter penalties, new enforcement measures and the
    creation of a state immigration board designed to coordinate with
    federal officials.

    "Today the state has passed the strongest legislation to combat
    illegal immigration of any state in the country," DeSantis told
    reporters.

    -snip

    Translation:
    3 strikes + 30 day grace period = "Bob, go set up a new LLC for $150
    to reset the violations clock."


    -hh

    'Bob' can ring up one of the Biden


    In posts about Trump you change the subject to Biden.

    In posts about DeSantis you change the subject to Biden.

    I didn't change the subject nor the subject line.


    The article is about DeSantis.

    The reply is about DeSantis.

    And you change the subject to Biden.

    Always, you change the subject to Biden.

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  • From pothead@21:1/5 to Chris Ahlstrom on Sat Feb 15 17:47:01 2025
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    On 2025-02-15, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
    Mitchell Holman wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in news:vop0rl$3ocef$2@dont-email.me: >>
    'Bob' can ring up one of the Biden

    In posts about Trump you change the subject to Biden.
    In posts about DeSantis you change the subject to Biden.

    I didn't change the subject nor the subject line.

    The article is about DeSantis.
    The reply is about DeSantis.
    And you change the subject to Biden.
    Always, you change the subject to Biden.

    Maybe crockpot is yearning for some of that "weak Biden drizzle".

    You try to be funny but you and up looking stupid and in this case
    vulgar.
    Your poor wife.

    --
    pothead

    Why did Joe Biden pardon his family?
    Read below to learn the reason.
    The Biden Crime Family Timeline here: https://oversight.house.gov/the-bidens-influence-peddling-timeline/

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  • From Democrat Employment Interruptus@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 16 04:05:01 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.republicans, fl.politics
    XPost: talk.politics.guns

    On 15 Feb 2025, Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> posted some news:XnsB2875508D8DD1629555@185.151.15.160:

    pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
    news:vop0rl$3ocef$2@dont-email.me:

    On 2025-02-15, Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> wrote:
    pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
    news:vooqru$3ne99$3@dont-email.me:

    On 2025-02-14, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
    On 2/14/25 15:23, P. Coonan wrote:
    TALLAHASSEE - Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis signed into law two
    far-reaching immigration enforcement bills on Thursday, paving
    the way for stricter penalties, new enforcement measures and the
    creation of a state immigration board designed to coordinate with
    federal officials.

    "Today the state has passed the strongest legislation to combat
    illegal immigration of any state in the country," DeSantis told
    reporters.

    -snip

    Translation:
    3 strikes + 30 day grace period = "Bob, go set up a new LLC for
    $150 to reset the violations clock."


    -hh

    'Bob' can ring up one of the Biden


    In posts about Trump you change the subject to Biden.

    In posts about DeSantis you change the subject to Biden.

    I didn't change the subject nor the subject line.

    The article is about DeSantis.

    Are you having another stupid attack?

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