• Cuts to Medicaid - THE SPECIFICS and How every Democrat and mainstream

    From John Smyth@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jul 3 09:32:14 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.republicans, alt.computer.workshop

    'When you actually read the Big Beautiful Bill “Cuts to Medicaid” you’ll realize every Democrat and mainstream media outlet is lying through
    their teeth'

    'No American would ever be against any of this, here are the facts
    “Here is just the first page of the cuts:'

    <https://patriots.win/p/19BZl15vOy/when-you-actually-read-the-big-b/c>

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to smythlejon2@hotmail.com on Fri Jul 4 08:53:56 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.republicans, alt.computer.workshop

    On Thu, 03 Jul 2025 09:32:14 -0400, John Smyth
    <smythlejon2@hotmail.com> wrote:

    'When you actually read the Big Beautiful Bill Cuts to Medicaid youll >realize every Democrat and mainstream media outlet is lying through
    their teeth'

    'No American would ever be against any of this, here are the facts
    Here is just the first page of the cuts:'

    <https://patriots.win/p/19BZl15vOy/when-you-actually-read-the-big-b/c>

    Democrats lying to us?

    Say it ain't so.

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  • From pothead@21:1/5 to NoBody on Fri Jul 4 13:27:57 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.republicans

    On 2025-07-04, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 03 Jul 2025 09:32:14 -0400, John Smyth
    <smythlejon2@hotmail.com> wrote:

    'When you actually read the Big Beautiful Bill “Cuts to Medicaid” you’ll >>realize every Democrat and mainstream media outlet is lying through
    their teeth'

    'No American would ever be against any of this, here are the facts
    “Here is just the first page of the cuts:'

    <https://patriots.win/p/19BZl15vOy/when-you-actually-read-the-big-b/c>

    Democrats lying to us?

    Say it ain't so.

    ACW removed.

    The democrats have been using the same old worn out playbook for decades
    and with the media behind them they have been relatively successful at it.


    Things have changed though. The legacy media is no longer trusted and people are getting their news from multiple Internet sources like podcasts etc.
    So in effect, people can now hear both sides of the issues if they choose to.

    And the democrats can blame their parties collapse on the Joe Biden administration
    and the ultra far left policies they supported. Couple this with the clear policy
    of America last and it's no wonder Trump got elected.

    Currently the democrat party is in disarray with no leadership, no platform other
    than oppose and attack anything Trump does. And the media still have not learned
    their lesson as they are now tripling down on the same old Trump's a "Nazi" style
    rhetoric that lost them the 2020 election.

    The people are no longer falling for it.
    Even democrats are seeing a POTUS accomplish more in 6 months than Biden did in 4 years.
    Is everything going to be a success?
    Of course not.
    But the point is that Trump *IS* trying to correct the disasters caused by the Biden
    administration.

    His border policy is working big time in terms of encounters/crossings.
    It's effectively been shut down to illegal migrants.
    etc.

    It's going to take time to bring the US back to the icon of power, strength
    and prosperity but as long as the far left policies don't begin to take root again, we will make it happen.



    --
    "No Kings" Protests.....
    Brought to you by the party who anointed
    Kamala to be their candidate w/o a single vote....

    Let *that* sink in.

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  • From super70s@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jul 4 09:38:27 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.republicans

    On Thu, 03 Jul 2025 09:32:14 -0400, John Smyth
    <smythlejon2@hotmail.com> wrote:

    'When you actually read the Big Beautiful Bill Cuts to Medicaid youll
    realize every Democrat and mainstream media outlet is lying through
    their teeth'

    'No American would ever be against any of this, here are the facts
    Here is just the first page of the cuts:'

    <https://patriots.win/p/19BZl15vOy/when-you-actually-read-the-big-b/c>

    <laugh> The propaganda campaign has begun.

    You boys have a lot of 'splainin' to do, even with your own voters.

    Good luck.

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to pothead on Fri Jul 4 14:16:02 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.republicans

    pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
    news:1048kss$r5vg$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2025-07-04, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 03 Jul 2025 09:32:14 -0400, John Smyth
    <smythlejon2@hotmail.com> wrote:

    'When you actually read the Big Beautiful Bill “Cuts to Medicaid” >>>you’ll realize every Democrat and mainstream media outlet is lying >>>through their teeth'

    'No American would ever be against any of this, here are the facts
    “Here is just the first page of the cuts:'

    <https://patriots.win/p/19BZl15vOy/when-you-actually-read-the-big-b/c>

    Democrats lying to us?

    Say it ain't so.

    ACW removed.

    The democrats have been using the same old worn out playbook for
    decades and with the media behind them they have been relatively
    successful at it.


    What, no mention of Biden?



    Things have changed though. The legacy media is no longer trusted and
    people are getting their news from multiple Internet sources like
    podcasts etc. So in effect, people can now hear both sides of the
    issues if they choose to.


    Where is your "what about Bdien" diversion?



    And the democrats can blame their parties collapse on the Joe Biden administration and the ultra far left policies they supported.


    Oh, there it is!

    You had us worried there for a minute.

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  • From Pluted Pup@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jul 4 18:24:56 2025
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.computer.workshop

    Many now say that Americans never deserved medical science in the first
    place which is why nobody takes vaccines and we all take politicians advice over scientists like Faucci.

    Trump is right. This is a good thing. More dead Americans means there
    will be more resources for the rest of us.

    Soon our government will be drafting you for service, hard labor in the
    fields because we need to prove that we never needed immigrants in the
    first place.

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to Mitchell Holman on Sat Jul 5 16:56:55 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.republicans

    On 7/4/25 10:16, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
    news:1048kss$r5vg$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2025-07-04, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 03 Jul 2025 09:32:14 -0400, John Smyth
    <smythlejon2@hotmail.com> wrote:

    'When you actually read the Big Beautiful Bill “Cuts to Medicaid”
    you’ll realize every Democrat and mainstream media outlet is lying
    through their teeth'

    'No American would ever be against any of this, here are the facts
    “Here is just the first page of the cuts:'

    <https://patriots.win/p/19BZl15vOy/when-you-actually-read-the-big-b/c>

    Democrats lying to us?

    Say it ain't so.

    ACW removed.

    The democrats have been using the same old worn out playbook for
    decades and with the media behind them they have been relatively
    successful at it.


    What, no mention of Biden?



    Things have changed though. The legacy media is no longer trusted and
    people are getting their news from multiple Internet sources like
    podcasts etc. So in effect, people can now hear both sides of the
    issues if they choose to.


    Where is your "what about Bdien" diversion?



    And the democrats can blame their parties collapse on the Joe Biden
    administration and the ultra far left policies they supported.


    Oh, there it is!

    You had us worried there for a minute.


    What's telling about the "big reforms" in the BBB's Medicare section is
    that their implementation has been deliberately delayed until after 31
    December 2026.

    Thus, a contradiction:

    Is it that there's huge amounts of fraud from lazy Americans and illegal immigrants/etc which makes getting the reforms in place urgent?

    Or is it that there isn't much fraud at all, so since these are real
    cuts being made to vulnerable populations, to limit the fallout, it is
    being delayed until after the Nov 2026 Midterm elections?

    In the meantime, the "no taxes on SS" is bogus math: they're relying on
    the existing STD tax deduction and a few plus-up's (all temporary?) for
    their "no taxes on SS" claim: one already gets the STD deduction
    regardless of if one is collecting SS.

    Likewise, the "no taxes on Overtime" details are scummy too. One of its provisions is that the only portion that's become untaxed is the
    difference in hourly rate between one's standard rate and the OT rate.
    For example, if straight time is $20/hr and OT is $30/hr, its just the
    (30-20 = 10) difference that's not being hit with taxes.

    Finally, on tips: this provision only applies to cash tips, not tips
    put on credit cards. Plus the IRS estimates that 84% of tip income is
    never reported anyway. As such, they're simply creating forgiveness on
    money that wasn't really being taxed in the first place.

    <http://archives.cpajournal.com/old/10428232.htm>

    -hh

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