• Car Lovers Rejoice! After 50 Miserable Years, CAFE Standards Are Dead

    From John Smyth@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 30 09:58:53 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.republicans, alt.computer.workshop

    Thank you Trump!

    'Car Lovers Rejoice! After 50 Miserable Years, CAFE Standards Are Dead'

    <https://issuesinsights.com/2025/07/25/car-lovers-rejoice-after-50-miserable-years-cafe-standards-are-dead/>

    'One of the most important provisions in the One Big Beautiful Bill has
    gone completely unnoticed, but promises to make the auto industry great
    again.

    For 50 years, the federal government has been forcing fuel economy
    standards on auto companies. If the average fuel economy of the cars
    sold in a year exceeded a federal standard, the companies had to cough
    up enormous penalties.

    Passed in 1975 as a way to deal with an energy crisis (that was caused
    by government price controls), “corporate average fuel economy” (CAFE) standards – required the fleet of cars sold by an automaker to achieve
    an arbitrary miles-per-gallon goal. If they missed the goal, they paid
    hefty annual fines.

    From the beginning, these standards were a disaster, forcing automakers
    to radically downsize their fleet, which research showed cost thousands
    of lives because, all things being equal, smaller, lighter cars are less
    safe than larger ones.

    In fact, a 2002 National Academy of Sciences found that these fuel
    economy standards not only boosted the cost of cars, but may have caused
    as many as 2,600 more traffic fatalities just in 1993.

    The standards, which were ratcheted up year after year, also wildly
    distorted the car market. To meet them, automakers had to sell more
    small cars than consumers wanted to buy, which meant heavily discounting
    them, and then making the cost up by jacking up prices on the bigger
    cars most buyers wanted or needed. Carmakers routinely paid extravagant
    fines for failing to meet the standards. Last year, Chryster had to
    write a check to Uncle Sam for more than $190 million.

    And because the government set tighter standards for passenger cars than
    light trucks, the industry responded by killing station wagons and
    replacing them with gas-hogging minivans and SUVs – negating much of the
    fuel savings the CAFE standards were supposed to produce.

    Worse, while Republican administrations would sometimes try to dial the
    mandate back, Democrats would crank them up. Obama imposed a fuel
    economy mandate that was supposed to hit 54.5 mpg for cars and
    light-duty trucks by 2025, which, as we pointed out in the pages of Investor’s Business Daily at the time, was designed to force EVs onto
    the market, because even compact hybrid cars can’t get that kind of
    mileage.

    In this first term, Trump rolled the standard back a bit, only to have
    Joe Biden come in and impose standards specifically designed to force
    most cars sold to be electric. The standards would have cost automakers billions in fines for failing to meet the fuel-economy targets.

    This time around, Trump is again planning to roll the CAFE standards
    back. But Congress did him one better. Rather than wait for regulators
    to rewrite the rule, which can take years and be subject be endless
    lobbying and litigation from various interest groups – lawmakers simply zeroed out the penalty as part of the One Big Beautiful Bill.

    Now, if a car company sells cars that, on average, exceed whatever the fuel-economy limit is technically in force in a given year, they pay… nothing. The mandate is still in place, but the penalty is now $0.00. (Republicans pulled off the same trick with the dreaded Obamacare
    insurance mandate — zeroing out the penalty rather than trying to get
    the mandate repealed.)

    Yet, despite this breakthrough, the death of CAFE got no coverage – as
    in zero – from the mainstream press, which was too busy trying to find birthday cards that Donald Trump allegedly sent to Jeffrey Epstein.

    But automakers noticed. As one car enthusiast noted on Instagram: “The immediate industry response proves how quickly things can change when regulations lose their bite. Stellantis just brought its legendary Hemi
    V8 engines ‘back from exile’ and announced the return of its SRT speed shop, famous for cranking V8s to extreme power levels. This marks a
    dramatic reversal of the downsizing trend that saw turbocharged
    4-cylinder engines replace V6 powerplants across midsize cars, SUVs, and
    even large pickups over the past decade.?”

    Environmentalist scolds and Democratic socialists won’t be happy with
    this turn of events, and Trump still needs to officially end the federal
    CAFE mandate. But, car buyers should rejoice because consumers, not
    faceless bureaucrats, will once again be in the driver’s seat.

    The death of CAFE could very well signal the rebirth of the U.S. auto
    industry.

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  • From pothead@21:1/5 to John Smyth on Wed Jul 30 20:19:57 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.republicans, alt.computer.workshop

    On 2025-07-30, John Smyth <smythlejon2@hotmail.com> wrote:
    Thank you Trump!

    'Car Lovers Rejoice! After 50 Miserable Years, CAFE Standards Are Dead'

    <https://issuesinsights.com/2025/07/25/car-lovers-rejoice-after-50-miserable-years-cafe-standards-are-dead/>

    'One of the most important provisions in the One Big Beautiful Bill has
    gone completely unnoticed, but promises to make the auto industry great again.

    For 50 years, the federal government has been forcing fuel economy
    standards on auto companies. If the average fuel economy of the cars
    sold in a year exceeded a federal standard, the companies had to cough
    up enormous penalties.

    Passed in 1975 as a way to deal with an energy crisis (that was caused
    by government price controls), “corporate average fuel economy” (CAFE) standards – required the fleet of cars sold by an automaker to achieve
    an arbitrary miles-per-gallon goal. If they missed the goal, they paid
    hefty annual fines.

    From the beginning, these standards were a disaster, forcing automakers
    to radically downsize their fleet, which research showed cost thousands
    of lives because, all things being equal, smaller, lighter cars are less
    safe than larger ones.

    In fact, a 2002 National Academy of Sciences found that these fuel
    economy standards not only boosted the cost of cars, but may have caused
    as many as 2,600 more traffic fatalities just in 1993.

    The standards, which were ratcheted up year after year, also wildly
    distorted the car market. To meet them, automakers had to sell more
    small cars than consumers wanted to buy, which meant heavily discounting them, and then making the cost up by jacking up prices on the bigger
    cars most buyers wanted or needed. Carmakers routinely paid extravagant
    fines for failing to meet the standards. Last year, Chryster had to
    write a check to Uncle Sam for more than $190 million.

    And because the government set tighter standards for passenger cars than light trucks, the industry responded by killing station wagons and
    replacing them with gas-hogging minivans and SUVs – negating much of the fuel savings the CAFE standards were supposed to produce.

    Worse, while Republican administrations would sometimes try to dial the mandate back, Democrats would crank them up. Obama imposed a fuel
    economy mandate that was supposed to hit 54.5 mpg for cars and
    light-duty trucks by 2025, which, as we pointed out in the pages of Investor’s Business Daily at the time, was designed to force EVs onto
    the market, because even compact hybrid cars can’t get that kind of mileage.

    In this first term, Trump rolled the standard back a bit, only to have
    Joe Biden come in and impose standards specifically designed to force
    most cars sold to be electric. The standards would have cost automakers billions in fines for failing to meet the fuel-economy targets.

    This time around, Trump is again planning to roll the CAFE standards
    back. But Congress did him one better. Rather than wait for regulators
    to rewrite the rule, which can take years and be subject be endless
    lobbying and litigation from various interest groups – lawmakers simply zeroed out the penalty as part of the One Big Beautiful Bill.

    Now, if a car company sells cars that, on average, exceed whatever the fuel-economy limit is technically in force in a given year, they pay… nothing. The mandate is still in place, but the penalty is now $0.00. (Republicans pulled off the same trick with the dreaded Obamacare
    insurance mandate — zeroing out the penalty rather than trying to get
    the mandate repealed.)

    Yet, despite this breakthrough, the death of CAFE got no coverage – as
    in zero – from the mainstream press, which was too busy trying to find birthday cards that Donald Trump allegedly sent to Jeffrey Epstein.

    But automakers noticed. As one car enthusiast noted on Instagram: “The immediate industry response proves how quickly things can change when regulations lose their bite. Stellantis just brought its legendary Hemi
    V8 engines ‘back from exile’ and announced the return of its SRT speed shop, famous for cranking V8s to extreme power levels. This marks a
    dramatic reversal of the downsizing trend that saw turbocharged
    4-cylinder engines replace V6 powerplants across midsize cars, SUVs, and
    even large pickups over the past decade.?”

    Environmentalist scolds and Democratic socialists won’t be happy with
    this turn of events, and Trump still needs to officially end the federal
    CAFE mandate. But, car buyers should rejoice because consumers, not
    faceless bureaucrats, will once again be in the driver’s seat.

    The death of CAFE could very well signal the rebirth of the U.S. auto industry.

    Good.
    Nothing stunts development like piles of useless regulations.

    ICE cars are very clean burning these days.
    Now diesel vehicles are another can of worms.
    Horrible IMHO.

    And like everything involved in green energy and renewables you
    have to investigate the entire manufacturing chain.
    Simply claiming EV cars have zero emissions is not enough.
    And lastly there is of course the dependency on foreign countries
    for raw materials and parts. Some of these countries are our
    adversaries.

    I support green energy but only when it is viable and not at the expense
    of attacking fossil fuels.
    Let the market decide as when green energy will save consumers money
    and work better overall, the market will move that way.





    --
    pothead

    "Our lives are fashioned by our choices. First we make our choices.
    Then our choices make us."
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  • From chine.bleu@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Thu Jul 31 17:57:28 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.republicans, alt.computer.workshop

    Governor Swill wrote:
    On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 20:19:57 -0000 (UTC), pothead
    <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:

    On 2025-07-30, John Smyth <smythlejon2@hotmail.com> wrote:
    <snip>
    The death of CAFE could very well signal the rebirth of the U.S. auto
    industry.

    And enslave us once again to OPEC and Russia.

    Good.
    Nothing stunts development like piles of useless regulations.

    ICE cars are very clean burning these days.
    Now diesel vehicles are another can of worms.
    Horrible IMHO.

    And like everything involved in green energy and renewables you
    have to investigate the entire manufacturing chain.
    Simply claiming EV cars have zero emissions is not enough.
    And lastly there is of course the dependency on foreign countries
    for raw materials and parts. Some of these countries are our
    adversaries.

    I support green energy but only when it is viable and not at the expense
    of attacking fossil fuels.
    Let the market decide as when green energy will save consumers money
    and work better overall, the market will move that way.

    "Ugh! Finger burn! Fire BAD!"


    Perpetually lurching out of reach.

    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMUnbNPCoSw>

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  • From Marmalade King@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Fri Aug 1 02:57:04 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.republicans, alt.computer.workshop

    Governor Swill wrote:

    On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 20:19:57 -0000 (UTC), pothead
    <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:

    On 2025-07-30, John Smyth <smythlejon2@hotmail.com> wrote:
    <snip>
    The death of CAFE could very well signal the rebirth of the U.S.
    auto
    industry.

    And enslave us once again to OPEC and Russia.

    Good.
    Nothing stunts development like piles of useless regulations.

    ICE cars are very clean burning these days.
    Now diesel vehicles are another can of worms.
    Horrible IMHO.

    And like everything involved in green energy and renewables you
    have to investigate the entire manufacturing chain.
    Simply claiming EV cars have zero emissions is not enough.
    And lastly there is of course the dependency on foreign countries
    for raw materials and parts. Some of these countries are our
    adversaries.

    I support green energy but only when it is viable and not at the
    expense
    of attacking fossil fuels.
    Let the market decide as when green energy will save consumers money
    and work better overall, the market will move that way.

    "Ugh! Finger burn! Fire BAD!"

    Everybody's going to make cars for the American market and forget the
    world. Trump wins again man!!!!


    We need cars that burn COAL!!!!!

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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Fri Aug 1 06:22:48 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.republicans

    Governor Swill wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 20:19:57 -0000 (UTC), pothead
    <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:

    <snip>

    I support green energy but only when it is viable and not at the expense
    of attacking fossil fuels.

    <snip>

    Crockpot sounds like a paid corporate shill.

    <alt.computer.workshop snipped>

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  • From chine.bleu@21:1/5 to Chris Ahlstrom on Fri Aug 1 07:22:38 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.republicans

    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    Governor Swill wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 20:19:57 -0000 (UTC), pothead
    <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:

    <snip>

    I support green energy but only when it is viable and not at the expense >>> of attacking fossil fuels.

    <snip>

    Crockpot sounds like a paid corporate shill.

    <alt.computer.workshop snipped>


    Worse. They do it free without recompense.

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