Americans can't handle their guns. Time to repeal the 2nd Amendment.
8:00 am EDT Jul. 11, 2022
We must repeal the Second Amendment if we want this country to ever be safe again. 
Whether it's killings by police, like the 60 bullets fired into Jayland Walker, or by civilians like in Highland Park, Illinois, Uvalde, Texas, or Buffalo, New York our national record on gun violence is an international embarrassment. It can't
be reformed without doing away with guns entirely. 
States like California and New York that have tried to set restrictive gun laws can do little when guns are trafficked in from other states. What's more – legislative attempts at restricting gun rights were recently shot down by a Supreme Court 
gone rogue. 
We're way beyond what the framers ever had in mind for gun rights already. And for a selective originalist Supreme Court conservative majority, it's hard to justify glossing over the history behind the Second Amendment.
Much like we did away with the 18th (prohibition) when it no longer served us, it's time to do away with the archaic constitutional amendment holding Americans hostage in their own country. 
It's time to say, "Hey, hey, ho, ho, the Second Amendment's gotta go."
How to prevent the next Derek Chauvin: Weaken unions and make police pay for misconduct
It doesn't get easier: Covering mass shootings has become routine – and endless
The problem: Americans can't handle guns
Americans can't handle their guns. There were a whopping 692 mass shootings in the United States last year, according to the Gun Violence Archive, which defines mass shootings as having "a minimum of four victims shot, either injured or killed, not
including any shooter who may also have been killed or injured in the incident." 
In 2021, more than 45,000 Americans were killed by firearms. And while we have just over 4% of the world's population, as of 2017 we had over 40% of the world's civilian-owned guns. 
There have been 2,069 school shootings in America since 1970, according to the Center for Homeland Defense and Security's Naval Postgraduate School's K-12 School Shooting Database. But after every shooting, all we see from most Republican lawmakers 
is idle talk about "locking doors" and the ever-popular "thoughts and prayers."
Meanwhile, other countries tighten gun laws after mass shootings, including Canada, which still has relatively high gun ownership rates but much lower gun homicide rates compared with the United States.
America's only option is to take drastic action and reform our antiquated Constitution.
We need to take action: Our well-meaning hashtags won't stop racist mass shootings
Highland Park mom's text: 'We're hiding.' Then she and her daughter fled in terror.
The solution: Get rid of these 27 words
27 words.
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." We are often reminded of the last 14 words of the amendment but completely overlook the first 13. But
those 13 words provide critical historical context, which our cherry-picking "originalist" Supreme Court has glossed over in favor of expanding gun rights far beyond what the Founders ever envisioned for the Bill of Rights, and at the expense of American
lives. 
In 1791, when the Second Amendment was adopted, the Founders had one thing in mind: To protect the people against a standing army, specifically, the muskets of the British standing army of King George III. The Second and Third Amendments, meant to be
read together, were about protecting the people from the tyranny of professional, full-time militaries (much like the one we have now). They were not intended to protect the people from one another. They were not intended to protect the people from AR-15-
style weapons. 
Suzette Hackney: Jayland Walker left his gun in the car. Then Akron police shot him 60 times.
Our Constitution is "the world’s longest surviving written charter of government," according to the Senate's website, but it is far from immutable: "The Constitution has been amended 27 times, most recently in 1992."
In order to get rid of the Second Amendment we'd use Article V of the Constitution, which sets out two options: Congress, through a joint resolution passed by a two-thirds vote, or by a congressional convention after petitions from two-thirds of the
state legislatures, could propose the amendment.
I am not the only lawyer to point to the obvious solution. After 14 students and three staff were killed at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland in 2018, none other than the late Justice John Paul Stevens called for repealing the Second
Amendment in an opinion column in The New York Times. 
It took five decades of campaigning for conservatives to get the constitutional right to abortion overturned in the Supreme Court. Repealing the Second Amendment may look like a long shot today, but if progressives and moderates show up in full force
to vote the right people into office over the next couple of decades, nothing is impossible. 
Carli Pierson, a New York licensed attorney, is an opinion writer with USA TODAY, and a member of the USA TODAY Editorial Board. Follow her on Twitter: @CarliPiersonEsq

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On Monday, July 11, 2022 at 6:53:50 AM UTC-7, DirtBag wrote:

Americans can't handle their guns. Time to repeal the 2nd Amendment.
8:00 am EDT Jul. 11, 2022
We must repeal the Second Amendment if we want this country to ever be safe again.
Whether it's killings by police, like the 60 bullets fired into Jayland Walker, or by civilians like in Highland Park, Illinois, Uvalde, Texas, or Buffalo, New York our national record on gun violence is an international embarrassment. It can't be

reformed without doing away with guns entirely.

States like California and New York that have tried to set restrictive gun laws can do little when guns are trafficked in from other states. What's more – legislative attempts at restricting gun rights were recently shot down by a Supreme Court gone

rogue.

We're way beyond what the framers ever had in mind for gun rights already. And for a selective originalist Supreme Court conservative majority, it's hard to justify glossing over the history behind the Second Amendment.
Much like we did away with the 18th (prohibition) when it no longer served us, it's time to do away with the archaic constitutional amendment holding Americans hostage in their own country.
It's time to say, "Hey, hey, ho, ho, the Second Amendment's gotta go."
How to prevent the next Derek Chauvin: Weaken unions and make police pay for misconduct
It doesn't get easier: Covering mass shootings has become routine – and endless
The problem: Americans can't handle guns
Americans can't handle their guns. There were a whopping 692 mass shootings in the United States last year, according to the Gun Violence Archive, which defines mass shootings as having "a minimum of four victims shot, either injured or killed, not

including any shooter who may also have been killed or injured in the incident."

In 2021, more than 45,000 Americans were killed by firearms. And while we have just over 4% of the world's population, as of 2017 we had over 40% of the world's civilian-owned guns.
There have been 2,069 school shootings in America since 1970, according to the Center for Homeland Defense and Security's Naval Postgraduate School's K-12 School Shooting Database. But after every shooting, all we see from most Republican lawmakers is

idle talk about "locking doors" and the ever-popular "thoughts and prayers."

Meanwhile, other countries tighten gun laws after mass shootings, including Canada, which still has relatively high gun ownership rates but much lower gun homicide rates compared with the United States.
America's only option is to take drastic action and reform our antiquated Constitution.
We need to take action: Our well-meaning hashtags won't stop racist mass shootings
Highland Park mom's text: 'We're hiding.' Then she and her daughter fled in terror.
The solution: Get rid of these 27 words
27 words.
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." We are often reminded of the last 14 words of the amendment but completely overlook the first 13. But

those 13 words provide critical historical context, which our cherry-picking "originalist" Supreme Court has glossed over in favor of expanding gun rights far beyond what the Founders ever envisioned for the Bill of Rights, and at the expense of American
lives.

In 1791, when the Second Amendment was adopted, the Founders had one thing in mind: To protect the people against a standing army, specifically, the muskets of the British standing army of King George III. The Second and Third Amendments, meant to be

read together, were about protecting the people from the tyranny of professional, full-time militaries (much like the one we have now). They were not intended to protect the people from one another. They were not intended to protect the people from AR-15-
style weapons.

Suzette Hackney: Jayland Walker left his gun in the car. Then Akron police shot him 60 times.
Our Constitution is "the world’s longest surviving written charter of government," according to the Senate's website, but it is far from immutable: "The Constitution has been amended 27 times, most recently in 1992."
In order to get rid of the Second Amendment we'd use Article V of the Constitution, which sets out two options: Congress, through a joint resolution passed by a two-thirds vote, or by a congressional convention after petitions from two-thirds of the

state legislatures, could propose the amendment.

I am not the only lawyer to point to the obvious solution. After 14 students and three staff were killed at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland in 2018, none other than the late Justice John Paul Stevens called for repealing the Second

Amendment in an opinion column in The New York Times.

It took five decades of campaigning for conservatives to get the constitutional right to abortion overturned in the Supreme Court. Repealing the Second Amendment may look like a long shot today, but if progressives and moderates show up in full force

to vote the right people into office over the next couple of decades, nothing is impossible.

Carli Pierson, a New York licensed attorney, is an opinion writer with USA TODAY, and a member of the USA TODAY Editorial Board. Follow her on Twitter: @CarliPiersonEsq

Outlawing guns will not prevent shootings. Look at Denmark, Abe in Japan and Mexico. Look at Drugs. They are outlawed and look, you can still obtain them. Outlaw guns and folks will just hide them. How about the obvious and cameras, guards,
and metal detectors at schools. Or do politicians not think children are worth it?

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On Tuesday, July 12, 2022 at 4:15:51 PM UTC-7, uncle_vito wrote:

On Monday, July 11, 2022 at 6:53:50 AM UTC-7, DirtBag wrote:

Americans can't handle their guns. Time to repeal the 2nd Amendment.
8:00 am EDT Jul. 11, 2022
We must repeal the Second Amendment if we want this country to ever be safe again.
Whether it's killings by police, like the 60 bullets fired into Jayland Walker, or by civilians like in Highland Park, Illinois, Uvalde, Texas, or Buffalo, New York our national record on gun violence is an international embarrassment. It can't be

reformed without doing away with guns entirely.

States like California and New York that have tried to set restrictive gun laws can do little when guns are trafficked in from other states. What's more – legislative attempts at restricting gun rights were recently shot down by a Supreme Court

gone rogue.

We're way beyond what the framers ever had in mind for gun rights already. And for a selective originalist Supreme Court conservative majority, it's hard to justify glossing over the history behind the Second Amendment.
Much like we did away with the 18th (prohibition) when it no longer served us, it's time to do away with the archaic constitutional amendment holding Americans hostage in their own country.
It's time to say, "Hey, hey, ho, ho, the Second Amendment's gotta go."
How to prevent the next Derek Chauvin: Weaken unions and make police pay for misconduct
It doesn't get easier: Covering mass shootings has become routine – and endless
The problem: Americans can't handle guns
Americans can't handle their guns. There were a whopping 692 mass shootings in the United States last year, according to the Gun Violence Archive, which defines mass shootings as having "a minimum of four victims shot, either injured or killed, not

including any shooter who may also have been killed or injured in the incident."

In 2021, more than 45,000 Americans were killed by firearms. And while we have just over 4% of the world's population, as of 2017 we had over 40% of the world's civilian-owned guns.
There have been 2,069 school shootings in America since 1970, according to the Center for Homeland Defense and Security's Naval Postgraduate School's K-12 School Shooting Database. But after every shooting, all we see from most Republican lawmakers

is idle talk about "locking doors" and the ever-popular "thoughts and prayers."

Meanwhile, other countries tighten gun laws after mass shootings, including Canada, which still has relatively high gun ownership rates but much lower gun homicide rates compared with the United States.
America's only option is to take drastic action and reform our antiquated Constitution.
We need to take action: Our well-meaning hashtags won't stop racist mass shootings
Highland Park mom's text: 'We're hiding.' Then she and her daughter fled in terror.
The solution: Get rid of these 27 words
27 words.
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." We are often reminded of the last 14 words of the amendment but completely overlook the first 13. But

those 13 words provide critical historical context, which our cherry-picking "originalist" Supreme Court has glossed over in favor of expanding gun rights far beyond what the Founders ever envisioned for the Bill of Rights, and at the expense of American
lives.

In 1791, when the Second Amendment was adopted, the Founders had one thing in mind: To protect the people against a standing army, specifically, the muskets of the British standing army of King George III. The Second and Third Amendments, meant to be

read together, were about protecting the people from the tyranny of professional, full-time militaries (much like the one we have now). They were not intended to protect the people from one another. They were not intended to protect the people from AR-15-
style weapons.

Suzette Hackney: Jayland Walker left his gun in the car. Then Akron police shot him 60 times.
Our Constitution is "the world’s longest surviving written charter of government," according to the Senate's website, but it is far from immutable: "The Constitution has been amended 27 times, most recently in 1992."
In order to get rid of the Second Amendment we'd use Article V of the Constitution, which sets out two options: Congress, through a joint resolution passed by a two-thirds vote, or by a congressional convention after petitions from two-thirds of the

state legislatures, could propose the amendment.

I am not the only lawyer to point to the obvious solution. After 14 students and three staff were killed at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland in 2018, none other than the late Justice John Paul Stevens called for repealing the Second

Amendment in an opinion column in The New York Times.

It took five decades of campaigning for conservatives to get the constitutional right to abortion overturned in the Supreme Court. Repealing the Second Amendment may look like a long shot today, but if progressives and moderates show up in full force

to vote the right people into office over the next couple of decades, nothing is impossible.

Carli Pierson, a New York licensed attorney, is an opinion writer with USA TODAY, and a member of the USA TODAY Editorial Board. Follow her on Twitter: @CarliPiersonEsq

Outlawing guns will not prevent shootings. Look at Denmark, Abe in Japan and Mexico. Look at Drugs. They are outlawed and look, you can still obtain them. Outlaw guns and folks will just hide them. How about the obvious and cameras, guards, and metal

detectors at schools. Or do politicians not think children are worth it?


America has far too many guns... How on earth did they allow the AR15? I suggest they only allow shotguns and .22 cal.

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On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 9:23:43 AM UTC-7, DirtBag wrote:

On Tuesday, July 12, 2022 at 4:15:51 PM UTC-7, uncle_vito wrote:

On Monday, July 11, 2022 at 6:53:50 AM UTC-7, DirtBag wrote:

Americans can't handle their guns. Time to repeal the 2nd Amendment. 8:00 am EDT Jul. 11, 2022
We must repeal the Second Amendment if we want this country to ever be safe again.
Whether it's killings by police, like the 60 bullets fired into Jayland Walker, or by civilians like in Highland Park, Illinois, Uvalde, Texas, or Buffalo, New York our national record on gun violence is an international embarrassment. It can't be

reformed without doing away with guns entirely.

States like California and New York that have tried to set restrictive gun laws can do little when guns are trafficked in from other states. What's more – legislative attempts at restricting gun rights were recently shot down by a Supreme Court

gone rogue.

We're way beyond what the framers ever had in mind for gun rights already. And for a selective originalist Supreme Court conservative majority, it's hard to justify glossing over the history behind the Second Amendment.
Much like we did away with the 18th (prohibition) when it no longer served us, it's time to do away with the archaic constitutional amendment holding Americans hostage in their own country.
It's time to say, "Hey, hey, ho, ho, the Second Amendment's gotta go." How to prevent the next Derek Chauvin: Weaken unions and make police pay for misconduct
It doesn't get easier: Covering mass shootings has become routine – and endless
The problem: Americans can't handle guns
Americans can't handle their guns. There were a whopping 692 mass shootings in the United States last year, according to the Gun Violence Archive, which defines mass shootings as having "a minimum of four victims shot, either injured or killed, not

including any shooter who may also have been killed or injured in the incident."

In 2021, more than 45,000 Americans were killed by firearms. And while we have just over 4% of the world's population, as of 2017 we had over 40% of the world's civilian-owned guns.
There have been 2,069 school shootings in America since 1970, according to the Center for Homeland Defense and Security's Naval Postgraduate School's K-12 School Shooting Database. But after every shooting, all we see from most Republican lawmakers

is idle talk about "locking doors" and the ever-popular "thoughts and prayers."

Meanwhile, other countries tighten gun laws after mass shootings, including Canada, which still has relatively high gun ownership rates but much lower gun homicide rates compared with the United States.
America's only option is to take drastic action and reform our antiquated Constitution.
We need to take action: Our well-meaning hashtags won't stop racist mass shootings
Highland Park mom's text: 'We're hiding.' Then she and her daughter fled in terror.
The solution: Get rid of these 27 words
27 words.
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." We are often reminded of the last 14 words of the amendment but completely overlook the first 13.

But those 13 words provide critical historical context, which our cherry-picking "originalist" Supreme Court has glossed over in favor of expanding gun rights far beyond what the Founders ever envisioned for the Bill of Rights, and at the expense of
American lives.

In 1791, when the Second Amendment was adopted, the Founders had one thing in mind: To protect the people against a standing army, specifically, the muskets of the British standing army of King George III. The Second and Third Amendments, meant to

be read together, were about protecting the people from the tyranny of professional, full-time militaries (much like the one we have now). They were not intended to protect the people from one another. They were not intended to protect the people from AR-
15-style weapons.

Suzette Hackney: Jayland Walker left his gun in the car. Then Akron police shot him 60 times.
Our Constitution is "the world’s longest surviving written charter of government," according to the Senate's website, but it is far from immutable: "The Constitution has been amended 27 times, most recently in 1992."
In order to get rid of the Second Amendment we'd use Article V of the Constitution, which sets out two options: Congress, through a joint resolution passed by a two-thirds vote, or by a congressional convention after petitions from two-thirds of

the state legislatures, could propose the amendment.

I am not the only lawyer to point to the obvious solution. After 14 students and three staff were killed at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland in 2018, none other than the late Justice John Paul Stevens called for repealing the Second

Amendment in an opinion column in The New York Times.

It took five decades of campaigning for conservatives to get the constitutional right to abortion overturned in the Supreme Court. Repealing the Second Amendment may look like a long shot today, but if progressives and moderates show up in full

force to vote the right people into office over the next couple of decades, nothing is impossible.

Carli Pierson, a New York licensed attorney, is an opinion writer with USA TODAY, and a member of the USA TODAY Editorial Board. Follow her on Twitter: @CarliPiersonEsq

Outlawing guns will not prevent shootings. Look at Denmark, Abe in Japan and Mexico. Look at Drugs. They are outlawed and look, you can still obtain them. Outlaw guns and folks will just hide them. How about the obvious and cameras, guards, and metal

detectors at schools. Or do politicians not think children are worth it?

America has far too many guns... How on earth did they allow the AR15? I suggest they only allow shotguns and .22 cal.

Look up Ruger Mini 14. The AR is just like it but scary looking.

My firearm collection has been my best investment. I think its value has tripled in the lase few years.


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On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 3:47:48 AM UTC-7, uncle_vito wrote:

On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 9:23:43 AM UTC-7, DirtBag wrote:

On Tuesday, July 12, 2022 at 4:15:51 PM UTC-7, uncle_vito wrote:

On Monday, July 11, 2022 at 6:53:50 AM UTC-7, DirtBag wrote:

Americans can't handle their guns. Time to repeal the 2nd Amendment. 8:00 am EDT Jul. 11, 2022
We must repeal the Second Amendment if we want this country to ever be safe again.
Whether it's killings by police, like the 60 bullets fired into Jayland Walker, or by civilians like in Highland Park, Illinois, Uvalde, Texas, or Buffalo, New York our national record on gun violence is an international embarrassment. It can't

be reformed without doing away with guns entirely.

States like California and New York that have tried to set restrictive gun laws can do little when guns are trafficked in from other states. What's more – legislative attempts at restricting gun rights were recently shot down by a Supreme Court

gone rogue.

We're way beyond what the framers ever had in mind for gun rights already. And for a selective originalist Supreme Court conservative majority, it's hard to justify glossing over the history behind the Second Amendment.
Much like we did away with the 18th (prohibition) when it no longer served us, it's time to do away with the archaic constitutional amendment holding Americans hostage in their own country.
It's time to say, "Hey, hey, ho, ho, the Second Amendment's gotta go." How to prevent the next Derek Chauvin: Weaken unions and make police pay for misconduct
It doesn't get easier: Covering mass shootings has become routine – and endless
The problem: Americans can't handle guns
Americans can't handle their guns. There were a whopping 692 mass shootings in the United States last year, according to the Gun Violence Archive, which defines mass shootings as having "a minimum of four victims shot, either injured or killed,

not including any shooter who may also have been killed or injured in the incident."

In 2021, more than 45,000 Americans were killed by firearms. And while we have just over 4% of the world's population, as of 2017 we had over 40% of the world's civilian-owned guns.
There have been 2,069 school shootings in America since 1970, according to the Center for Homeland Defense and Security's Naval Postgraduate School's K-12 School Shooting Database. But after every shooting, all we see from most Republican

lawmakers is idle talk about "locking doors" and the ever-popular "thoughts and prayers."

Meanwhile, other countries tighten gun laws after mass shootings, including Canada, which still has relatively high gun ownership rates but much lower gun homicide rates compared with the United States.
America's only option is to take drastic action and reform our antiquated Constitution.
We need to take action: Our well-meaning hashtags won't stop racist mass shootings
Highland Park mom's text: 'We're hiding.' Then she and her daughter fled in terror.
The solution: Get rid of these 27 words
27 words.
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." We are often reminded of the last 14 words of the amendment but completely overlook the first 13.

But those 13 words provide critical historical context, which our cherry-picking "originalist" Supreme Court has glossed over in favor of expanding gun rights far beyond what the Founders ever envisioned for the Bill of Rights, and at the expense of
American lives.

In 1791, when the Second Amendment was adopted, the Founders had one thing in mind: To protect the people against a standing army, specifically, the muskets of the British standing army of King George III. The Second and Third Amendments, meant

to be read together, were about protecting the people from the tyranny of professional, full-time militaries (much like the one we have now). They were not intended to protect the people from one another. They were not intended to protect the people from
AR-15-style weapons.

Suzette Hackney: Jayland Walker left his gun in the car. Then Akron police shot him 60 times.
Our Constitution is "the world’s longest surviving written charter of government," according to the Senate's website, but it is far from immutable: "The Constitution has been amended 27 times, most recently in 1992."
In order to get rid of the Second Amendment we'd use Article V of the Constitution, which sets out two options: Congress, through a joint resolution passed by a two-thirds vote, or by a congressional convention after petitions from two-thirds of

the state legislatures, could propose the amendment.

I am not the only lawyer to point to the obvious solution. After 14 students and three staff were killed at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland in 2018, none other than the late Justice John Paul Stevens called for repealing the

Second Amendment in an opinion column in The New York Times.

It took five decades of campaigning for conservatives to get the constitutional right to abortion overturned in the Supreme Court. Repealing the Second Amendment may look like a long shot today, but if progressives and moderates show up in full

force to vote the right people into office over the next couple of decades, nothing is impossible.

Carli Pierson, a New York licensed attorney, is an opinion writer with USA TODAY, and a member of the USA TODAY Editorial Board. Follow her on Twitter: @CarliPiersonEsq

Outlawing guns will not prevent shootings. Look at Denmark, Abe in Japan and Mexico. Look at Drugs. They are outlawed and look, you can still obtain them. Outlaw guns and folks will just hide them. How about the obvious and cameras, guards, and

metal detectors at schools. Or do politicians not think children are worth it?

America has far too many guns... How on earth did they allow the AR15? I suggest they only allow shotguns and .22 cal.

Look up Ruger Mini 14. The AR is just like it but scary looking.

My firearm collection has been my best investment. I think its value has tripled in the lase few years.

-----------------
What have you?
Here is a story that keeps me awake still.

I recall my father GIVING AWAY a matched set of (Black Powder) Parker Shotguns ( 10 gauge and 12 gauge) to a guy who was painting our house. They were sitting in a bucket in the corner of the garage. The painter saw them and my father told he he could
have them. He was afraid we ( me and my brother) would try to shoot modern ammo in them.. They were fully etched Parker shotguns... Belonging to may Great Grandfather. This was around 1968 He Just GAVE them away.

I looked up there value a few years back and they were worth $100,000 for the matched pair. I just knew that he made a mistake. :(. Every now and again I think about them... They were fully etched guns.... He just GAVE them away.... I
still groan about it..

I still think about it every time someone talks about guns....

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On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 7:39:53 AM UTC-7, DirtBag wrote:

On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 3:47:48 AM UTC-7, uncle_vito wrote:

On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 9:23:43 AM UTC-7, DirtBag wrote:

On Tuesday, July 12, 2022 at 4:15:51 PM UTC-7, uncle_vito wrote:

On Monday, July 11, 2022 at 6:53:50 AM UTC-7, DirtBag wrote:

Americans can't handle their guns. Time to repeal the 2nd Amendment. 8:00 am EDT Jul. 11, 2022
We must repeal the Second Amendment if we want this country to ever be safe again.
Whether it's killings by police, like the 60 bullets fired into Jayland Walker, or by civilians like in Highland Park, Illinois, Uvalde, Texas, or Buffalo, New York our national record on gun violence is an international embarrassment. It can't

be reformed without doing away with guns entirely.

States like California and New York that have tried to set restrictive gun laws can do little when guns are trafficked in from other states. What's more – legislative attempts at restricting gun rights were recently shot down by a Supreme

Court gone rogue.

We're way beyond what the framers ever had in mind for gun rights already. And for a selective originalist Supreme Court conservative majority, it's hard to justify glossing over the history behind the Second Amendment.
Much like we did away with the 18th (prohibition) when it no longer served us, it's time to do away with the archaic constitutional amendment holding Americans hostage in their own country.
It's time to say, "Hey, hey, ho, ho, the Second Amendment's gotta go."
How to prevent the next Derek Chauvin: Weaken unions and make police pay for misconduct
It doesn't get easier: Covering mass shootings has become routine – and endless
The problem: Americans can't handle guns
Americans can't handle their guns. There were a whopping 692 mass shootings in the United States last year, according to the Gun Violence Archive, which defines mass shootings as having "a minimum of four victims shot, either injured or killed,

not including any shooter who may also have been killed or injured in the incident."

In 2021, more than 45,000 Americans were killed by firearms. And while we have just over 4% of the world's population, as of 2017 we had over 40% of the world's civilian-owned guns.
There have been 2,069 school shootings in America since 1970, according to the Center for Homeland Defense and Security's Naval Postgraduate School's K-12 School Shooting Database. But after every shooting, all we see from most Republican

lawmakers is idle talk about "locking doors" and the ever-popular "thoughts and prayers."

Meanwhile, other countries tighten gun laws after mass shootings, including Canada, which still has relatively high gun ownership rates but much lower gun homicide rates compared with the United States.
America's only option is to take drastic action and reform our antiquated Constitution.
We need to take action: Our well-meaning hashtags won't stop racist mass shootings
Highland Park mom's text: 'We're hiding.' Then she and her daughter fled in terror.
The solution: Get rid of these 27 words
27 words.
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." We are often reminded of the last 14 words of the amendment but completely overlook the first 13.

But those 13 words provide critical historical context, which our cherry-picking "originalist" Supreme Court has glossed over in favor of expanding gun rights far beyond what the Founders ever envisioned for the Bill of Rights, and at the expense of
American lives.

In 1791, when the Second Amendment was adopted, the Founders had one thing in mind: To protect the people against a standing army, specifically, the muskets of the British standing army of King George III. The Second and Third Amendments, meant

to be read together, were about protecting the people from the tyranny of professional, full-time militaries (much like the one we have now). They were not intended to protect the people from one another. They were not intended to protect the people from
AR-15-style weapons.

Suzette Hackney: Jayland Walker left his gun in the car. Then Akron police shot him 60 times.
Our Constitution is "the world’s longest surviving written charter of government," according to the Senate's website, but it is far from immutable: "The Constitution has been amended 27 times, most recently in 1992."
In order to get rid of the Second Amendment we'd use Article V of the Constitution, which sets out two options: Congress, through a joint resolution passed by a two-thirds vote, or by a congressional convention after petitions from two-thirds

of the state legislatures, could propose the amendment.

I am not the only lawyer to point to the obvious solution. After 14 students and three staff were killed at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland in 2018, none other than the late Justice John Paul Stevens called for repealing the

Second Amendment in an opinion column in The New York Times.

It took five decades of campaigning for conservatives to get the constitutional right to abortion overturned in the Supreme Court. Repealing the Second Amendment may look like a long shot today, but if progressives and moderates show up in full

force to vote the right people into office over the next couple of decades, nothing is impossible.

Carli Pierson, a New York licensed attorney, is an opinion writer with USA TODAY, and a member of the USA TODAY Editorial Board. Follow her on Twitter: @CarliPiersonEsq

Outlawing guns will not prevent shootings. Look at Denmark, Abe in Japan and Mexico. Look at Drugs. They are outlawed and look, you can still obtain them. Outlaw guns and folks will just hide them. How about the obvious and cameras, guards, and

metal detectors at schools. Or do politicians not think children are worth it?

America has far too many guns... How on earth did they allow the AR15? I suggest they only allow shotguns and .22 cal.

Look up Ruger Mini 14. The AR is just like it but scary looking.

My firearm collection has been my best investment. I think its value has tripled in the lase few years.

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What have you?
Here is a story that keeps me awake still.

I recall my father GIVING AWAY a matched set of (Black Powder) Parker Shotguns ( 10 gauge and 12 gauge) to a guy who was painting our house. They were sitting in a bucket in the corner of the garage. The painter saw them and my father told he he could

have them. He was afraid we ( me and my brother) would try to shoot modern ammo in them.. They were fully etched Parker shotguns... Belonging to may Great Grandfather. This was around 1968 He Just GAVE them away.

I looked up there value a few years back and they were worth $100,000 for the matched pair. I just knew that he made a mistake. :(. Every now and again I think about them... They were fully etched guns.... He just GAVE them away.... I still groan about

it..

I still think about it every time someone talks about guns....

I just looked. OMG!
https://www.bonhams.com/auctions/20066/lot/3392/

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On Tuesday, July 12, 2022 at 4:15:51 PM UTC-7, uncle_vito wrote:

On Monday, July 11, 2022 at 6:53:50 AM UTC-7, DirtBag wrote:

Americans can't handle their guns. Time to repeal the 2nd Amendment.
8:00 am EDT Jul. 11, 2022
We must repeal the Second Amendment if we want this country to ever be safe again.
Whether it's killings by police, like the 60 bullets fired into Jayland Walker, or by civilians like in Highland Park, Illinois, Uvalde, Texas, or Buffalo, New York our national record on gun violence is an international embarrassment. It can't be

reformed without doing away with guns entirely.

States like California and New York that have tried to set restrictive gun laws can do little when guns are trafficked in from other states. What's more – legislative attempts at restricting gun rights were recently shot down by a Supreme Court

gone rogue.

We're way beyond what the framers ever had in mind for gun rights already. And for a selective originalist Supreme Court conservative majority, it's hard to justify glossing over the history behind the Second Amendment.
Much like we did away with the 18th (prohibition) when it no longer served us, it's time to do away with the archaic constitutional amendment holding Americans hostage in their own country.
It's time to say, "Hey, hey, ho, ho, the Second Amendment's gotta go."
How to prevent the next Derek Chauvin: Weaken unions and make police pay for misconduct
It doesn't get easier: Covering mass shootings has become routine – and endless
The problem: Americans can't handle guns
Americans can't handle their guns. There were a whopping 692 mass shootings in the United States last year, according to the Gun Violence Archive, which defines mass shootings as having "a minimum of four victims shot, either injured or killed, not

including any shooter who may also have been killed or injured in the incident."

In 2021, more than 45,000 Americans were killed by firearms. And while we have just over 4% of the world's population, as of 2017 we had over 40% of the world's civilian-owned guns.
There have been 2,069 school shootings in America since 1970, according to the Center for Homeland Defense and Security's Naval Postgraduate School's K-12 School Shooting Database. But after every shooting, all we see from most Republican lawmakers

is idle talk about "locking doors" and the ever-popular "thoughts and prayers."

Meanwhile, other countries tighten gun laws after mass shootings, including Canada, which still has relatively high gun ownership rates but much lower gun homicide rates compared with the United States.
America's only option is to take drastic action and reform our antiquated Constitution.
We need to take action: Our well-meaning hashtags won't stop racist mass shootings
Highland Park mom's text: 'We're hiding.' Then she and her daughter fled in terror.
The solution: Get rid of these 27 words
27 words.
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." We are often reminded of the last 14 words of the amendment but completely overlook the first 13. But

those 13 words provide critical historical context, which our cherry-picking "originalist" Supreme Court has glossed over in favor of expanding gun rights far beyond what the Founders ever envisioned for the Bill of Rights, and at the expense of American
lives.

In 1791, when the Second Amendment was adopted, the Founders had one thing in mind: To protect the people against a standing army, specifically, the muskets of the British standing army of King George III. The Second and Third Amendments, meant to be

read together, were about protecting the people from the tyranny of professional, full-time militaries (much like the one we have now). They were not intended to protect the people from one another. They were not intended to protect the people from AR-15-
style weapons.

Suzette Hackney: Jayland Walker left his gun in the car. Then Akron police shot him 60 times.
Our Constitution is "the world’s longest surviving written charter of government," according to the Senate's website, but it is far from immutable: "The Constitution has been amended 27 times, most recently in 1992."
In order to get rid of the Second Amendment we'd use Article V of the Constitution, which sets out two options: Congress, through a joint resolution passed by a two-thirds vote, or by a congressional convention after petitions from two-thirds of the

state legislatures, could propose the amendment.

I am not the only lawyer to point to the obvious solution. After 14 students and three staff were killed at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland in 2018, none other than the late Justice John Paul Stevens called for repealing the Second

Amendment in an opinion column in The New York Times.

It took five decades of campaigning for conservatives to get the constitutional right to abortion overturned in the Supreme Court. Repealing the Second Amendment may look like a long shot today, but if progressives and moderates show up in full force

to vote the right people into office over the next couple of decades, nothing is impossible.

Carli Pierson, a New York licensed attorney, is an opinion writer with USA TODAY, and a member of the USA TODAY Editorial Board. Follow her on Twitter: @CarliPiersonEsq

Outlawing guns will not prevent shootings. Look at Denmark, Abe in Japan and Mexico. Look at Drugs. They are outlawed and look, you can still obtain them. Outlaw guns and folks will just hide them. How about the obvious and cameras, guards, and metal

detectors at schools. Or do politicians not think children are worth it?

Some good points.. BUT there are Millions of old guns in closets that get stolen and used for crime. The AR15 are the favorite today and they are killing machines. They NEVER should have been introduced to a modern society. We fucked are selves.
Now we need to fix it. Solutions? How do your disarm a country FULL of guns... Start with the AR15's. They seem to be the favorite killing machines. Raise Taxes and use the money for disarming America. Anyone WITH an idea about how to
disarm the USA?

SOMETHING HAS TO GIVE IN RESPECT TO GUNS! And everyone knows it!

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On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 3:47:48 AM UTC-7, uncle_vito wrote:

On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 9:23:43 AM UTC-7, DirtBag wrote:

On Tuesday, July 12, 2022 at 4:15:51 PM UTC-7, uncle_vito wrote:

On Monday, July 11, 2022 at 6:53:50 AM UTC-7, DirtBag wrote:

Americans can't handle their guns. Time to repeal the 2nd Amendment. 8:00 am EDT Jul. 11, 2022
We must repeal the Second Amendment if we want this country to ever be safe again.
Whether it's killings by police, like the 60 bullets fired into Jayland Walker, or by civilians like in Highland Park, Illinois, Uvalde, Texas, or Buffalo, New York our national record on gun violence is an international embarrassment. It can't

be reformed without doing away with guns entirely.

States like California and New York that have tried to set restrictive gun laws can do little when guns are trafficked in from other states. What's more – legislative attempts at restricting gun rights were recently shot down by a Supreme Court

gone rogue.

We're way beyond what the framers ever had in mind for gun rights already. And for a selective originalist Supreme Court conservative majority, it's hard to justify glossing over the history behind the Second Amendment.
Much like we did away with the 18th (prohibition) when it no longer served us, it's time to do away with the archaic constitutional amendment holding Americans hostage in their own country.
It's time to say, "Hey, hey, ho, ho, the Second Amendment's gotta go." How to prevent the next Derek Chauvin: Weaken unions and make police pay for misconduct
It doesn't get easier: Covering mass shootings has become routine – and endless
The problem: Americans can't handle guns
Americans can't handle their guns. There were a whopping 692 mass shootings in the United States last year, according to the Gun Violence Archive, which defines mass shootings as having "a minimum of four victims shot, either injured or killed,

not including any shooter who may also have been killed or injured in the incident."

In 2021, more than 45,000 Americans were killed by firearms. And while we have just over 4% of the world's population, as of 2017 we had over 40% of the world's civilian-owned guns.
There have been 2,069 school shootings in America since 1970, according to the Center for Homeland Defense and Security's Naval Postgraduate School's K-12 School Shooting Database. But after every shooting, all we see from most Republican

lawmakers is idle talk about "locking doors" and the ever-popular "thoughts and prayers."

Meanwhile, other countries tighten gun laws after mass shootings, including Canada, which still has relatively high gun ownership rates but much lower gun homicide rates compared with the United States.
America's only option is to take drastic action and reform our antiquated Constitution.
We need to take action: Our well-meaning hashtags won't stop racist mass shootings
Highland Park mom's text: 'We're hiding.' Then she and her daughter fled in terror.
The solution: Get rid of these 27 words
27 words.
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." We are often reminded of the last 14 words of the amendment but completely overlook the first 13.

But those 13 words provide critical historical context, which our cherry-picking "originalist" Supreme Court has glossed over in favor of expanding gun rights far beyond what the Founders ever envisioned for the Bill of Rights, and at the expense of
American lives.

In 1791, when the Second Amendment was adopted, the Founders had one thing in mind: To protect the people against a standing army, specifically, the muskets of the British standing army of King George III. The Second and Third Amendments, meant

to be read together, were about protecting the people from the tyranny of professional, full-time militaries (much like the one we have now). They were not intended to protect the people from one another. They were not intended to protect the people from
AR-15-style weapons.

Suzette Hackney: Jayland Walker left his gun in the car. Then Akron police shot him 60 times.
Our Constitution is "the world’s longest surviving written charter of government," according to the Senate's website, but it is far from immutable: "The Constitution has been amended 27 times, most recently in 1992."
In order to get rid of the Second Amendment we'd use Article V of the Constitution, which sets out two options: Congress, through a joint resolution passed by a two-thirds vote, or by a congressional convention after petitions from two-thirds of

the state legislatures, could propose the amendment.

I am not the only lawyer to point to the obvious solution. After 14 students and three staff were killed at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland in 2018, none other than the late Justice John Paul Stevens called for repealing the

Second Amendment in an opinion column in The New York Times.

It took five decades of campaigning for conservatives to get the constitutional right to abortion overturned in the Supreme Court. Repealing the Second Amendment may look like a long shot today, but if progressives and moderates show up in full

force to vote the right people into office over the next couple of decades, nothing is impossible.

Carli Pierson, a New York licensed attorney, is an opinion writer with USA TODAY, and a member of the USA TODAY Editorial Board. Follow her on Twitter: @CarliPiersonEsq

Outlawing guns will not prevent shootings. Look at Denmark, Abe in Japan and Mexico. Look at Drugs. They are outlawed and look, you can still obtain them. Outlaw guns and folks will just hide them. How about the obvious and cameras, guards, and

metal detectors at schools. Or do politicians not think children are worth it?

America has far too many guns... How on earth did they allow the AR15? I suggest they only allow shotguns and .22 cal.

Look up Ruger Mini 14. The AR is just like it but scary looking.

My firearm collection has been my best investment. I think its value has tripled in the lase few years.

What have in your collection?

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On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 3:47:48 AM UTC-7, uncle_vito wrote:

On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 9:23:43 AM UTC-7, DirtBag wrote:

On Tuesday, July 12, 2022 at 4:15:51 PM UTC-7, uncle_vito wrote:

On Monday, July 11, 2022 at 6:53:50 AM UTC-7, DirtBag wrote:

Americans can't handle their guns. Time to repeal the 2nd Amendment. 8:00 am EDT Jul. 11, 2022
We must repeal the Second Amendment if we want this country to ever be safe again.
Whether it's killings by police, like the 60 bullets fired into Jayland Walker, or by civilians like in Highland Park, Illinois, Uvalde, Texas, or Buffalo, New York our national record on gun violence is an international embarrassment. It can't

be reformed without doing away with guns entirely.

States like California and New York that have tried to set restrictive gun laws can do little when guns are trafficked in from other states. What's more – legislative attempts at restricting gun rights were recently shot down by a Supreme Court

gone rogue.

We're way beyond what the framers ever had in mind for gun rights already. And for a selective originalist Supreme Court conservative majority, it's hard to justify glossing over the history behind the Second Amendment.
Much like we did away with the 18th (prohibition) when it no longer served us, it's time to do away with the archaic constitutional amendment holding Americans hostage in their own country.
It's time to say, "Hey, hey, ho, ho, the Second Amendment's gotta go." How to prevent the next Derek Chauvin: Weaken unions and make police pay for misconduct
It doesn't get easier: Covering mass shootings has become routine – and endless
The problem: Americans can't handle guns
Americans can't handle their guns. There were a whopping 692 mass shootings in the United States last year, according to the Gun Violence Archive, which defines mass shootings as having "a minimum of four victims shot, either injured or killed,

not including any shooter who may also have been killed or injured in the incident."

In 2021, more than 45,000 Americans were killed by firearms. And while we have just over 4% of the world's population, as of 2017 we had over 40% of the world's civilian-owned guns.
There have been 2,069 school shootings in America since 1970, according to the Center for Homeland Defense and Security's Naval Postgraduate School's K-12 School Shooting Database. But after every shooting, all we see from most Republican

lawmakers is idle talk about "locking doors" and the ever-popular "thoughts and prayers."

Meanwhile, other countries tighten gun laws after mass shootings, including Canada, which still has relatively high gun ownership rates but much lower gun homicide rates compared with the United States.
America's only option is to take drastic action and reform our antiquated Constitution.
We need to take action: Our well-meaning hashtags won't stop racist mass shootings
Highland Park mom's text: 'We're hiding.' Then she and her daughter fled in terror.
The solution: Get rid of these 27 words
27 words.
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." We are often reminded of the last 14 words of the amendment but completely overlook the first 13.

But those 13 words provide critical historical context, which our cherry-picking "originalist" Supreme Court has glossed over in favor of expanding gun rights far beyond what the Founders ever envisioned for the Bill of Rights, and at the expense of
American lives.

In 1791, when the Second Amendment was adopted, the Founders had one thing in mind: To protect the people against a standing army, specifically, the muskets of the British standing army of King George III. The Second and Third Amendments, meant

to be read together, were about protecting the people from the tyranny of professional, full-time militaries (much like the one we have now). They were not intended to protect the people from one another. They were not intended to protect the people from
AR-15-style weapons.

Suzette Hackney: Jayland Walker left his gun in the car. Then Akron police shot him 60 times.
Our Constitution is "the world’s longest surviving written charter of government," according to the Senate's website, but it is far from immutable: "The Constitution has been amended 27 times, most recently in 1992."
In order to get rid of the Second Amendment we'd use Article V of the Constitution, which sets out two options: Congress, through a joint resolution passed by a two-thirds vote, or by a congressional convention after petitions from two-thirds of

the state legislatures, could propose the amendment.

I am not the only lawyer to point to the obvious solution. After 14 students and three staff were killed at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland in 2018, none other than the late Justice John Paul Stevens called for repealing the

Second Amendment in an opinion column in The New York Times.

It took five decades of campaigning for conservatives to get the constitutional right to abortion overturned in the Supreme Court. Repealing the Second Amendment may look like a long shot today, but if progressives and moderates show up in full

force to vote the right people into office over the next couple of decades, nothing is impossible.

Carli Pierson, a New York licensed attorney, is an opinion writer with USA TODAY, and a member of the USA TODAY Editorial Board. Follow her on Twitter: @CarliPiersonEsq

Outlawing guns will not prevent shootings. Look at Denmark, Abe in Japan and Mexico. Look at Drugs. They are outlawed and look, you can still obtain them. Outlaw guns and folks will just hide them. How about the obvious and cameras, guards, and

metal detectors at schools. Or do politicians not think children are worth it?

America has far too many guns... How on earth did they allow the AR15? I suggest they only allow shotguns and .22 cal.

Look up Ruger Mini 14. The AR is just like it but scary looking.

My firearm collection has been my best investment. I think its value has tripled in the lase few years.

I am ambivalent about these modern WEAPONS ... Like deadly TOYS made to further break up our society further.
Yes !! Let's all be ALL be packing and we can see what fun that might be. -sick-

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