• Getting Trump elected speaker would be a tougher task

    From JAB@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 5 20:37:31 2023
    Fact Check: Do Donald Trump Indictments Bar Him From House Speaker
    Role?
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    "Rule 26--Temporary Step Aside of a Member of Leadership who is
    Indicted (a) A member of the Republican Leadership shall step aside if
    indicted for a felony for which a sentence of two or more years
    imprisonment may be imposed."

    The text quoted by Snell is from the House Republican Conference for
    the 118th Congress, internal congressional rules agreed upon by the
    GOP.
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    However, these rules are not statute and can be changed by the GOP. It
    would require the creation of an ad hoc committee, appointed by the
    speaker and chaired by a senior Republican member of the Committee on
    Rules of the House.
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    Politics professor Todd Landman, of the University of Nottingham, told
    Newsweek that while it's possible to change the rules, this would not
    be without risk for the GOP.

    "Changing the indictment rule risks charges of hypocrisy towards the
    Republican Party," Landman said.

    David Andersen, an associate professor of U.S. politics at Durham
    University, told Newsweek that there were "enough never-Trumpers and
    long-term members who respect the institution of the House within the
    GOP" to create division and opposition in the event that such a change
    was proposed.

    "Even for those who support Trump, this would be akin to turning over
    the House majority to someone who would only use the office to run a presidential campaign," Andersen said. "What this would lead to is a
    deep internal divide about whether to remove the rule or not, but
    Trump would likely win this battle."
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    Even after such a corralling, Trump would need to be voted in and the likelihood of that would be a significant challenge, as Iwan Morgan,
    professor emeritus of U.S. studies at University College London told
    Newsweek.

    "Getting Trump elected speaker would be a tougher task--every Democrat
    would vote no, and it only requires five non-MAGA GOPs to follow
    suit," Morgan said.

    "And some conservative Republicans would think twice, too, about the
    likely damage to the reputation of Congress if this were done. Note
    that House Rules Chairman Tom Cole (R-OK), who voted for McCarthy to
    retain his office, warned that his ouster was 'simply a vote for
    chaos.'"

    https://www.newsweek.com/kevin-mccarthy-donald-trump-indictments-bar-house-speaker-fact-check-1832140

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  • From Michael Trew@21:1/5 to JAB on Fri Oct 6 18:03:20 2023
    On 10/5/2023 9:37 PM, JAB wrote:
    Fact Check: Do Donald Trump Indictments Bar Him From House Speaker
    Role?
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    "Rule 26--Temporary Step Aside of a Member of Leadership who is
    Indicted (a) A member of the Republican Leadership shall step aside if indicted for a felony for which a sentence of two or more years
    imprisonment may be imposed." (snip)

    "Getting Trump elected speaker would be a tougher task--every Democrat
    would vote no, and it only requires five non-MAGA GOPs to follow
    suit," Morgan said.

    Why would they want to do that? I've heard Trump speak. Much like
    Biden, he stumbles worse than Bush in public. His speeches are
    embarrassing, at best.

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