From the «stay away you menaces» department:
Feed: Slashdot
Title: The Rise and Fall of Usenet
Author: BeauHD
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2023 19:02:00 -0500
Link:
An anonymous reader quotes a report from ZDNet: Long before
Facebook existed, or even before the Internet, there was Usenet.
Usenet was the first social network. Now, with Google Groups
abandoning Usenet, this oldest of all social networks is doomed to
disappear. Some might say it's well past time. As Google declared,
"Over the last several years, legitimate activity in text-based
Usenet groups has declined significantly because users have moved
to more modern technologies and formats such as social media and
web-based forums. Much of the content being disseminated via Usenet
today is binary (non-text) file sharing, which Google Groups does
not support, as well as spam." True, these days, Usenet's content
is almost entirely spam, but in its day, Usenet was everything that
Twitter and Reddit would become and more. In 1979, Duke University
computer science graduate students Tom Truscott and Jim Ellis
conceived of a network of shared messages under various topics.
These messages, also known as articles or posts, were submitted to
topic categories, which became known as newsgroups. Within those
groups, messages were bound together in threads and sub-threads.
[...] In 1980, Truscott and Ellis, using the Unix to Unix Copy
Protocol (UUCP), hooked up with the University of North Carolina to
form the first Usenet nodes. From there, it would rapidly spread
over the pre-Internet ARPANet and other early networks. These
messages would be stored and retrieved from news servers. These
would "peer" to each other so that messages to a newsgroup would be
shared from server to server and to user to user so that within
hours, your messages would reach the entire networked world. Usenet
would evolve its own network protocol, Network News Transfer
Protocol (NNTP), to speed the transfer of these messages. Today,
the social network Mastodon uses a similar approach with the
ActivityPub protocol, while other social networks, such as Threads,
are exploring using ActivityPub to connect with Mastodon and the
other social networks that support ActivityPub. As the saying goes, everything old is new again. [...] Usenet was never an organized
social network. Each server owner could -- and did -- set its own
rules. Mind you, there was some organization to begin with. The
first 'mainstream' Usenet groups, comp, misc, news, rec, soc, and
sci hierarchies, were widely accepted and disseminated until 1987.
Then, faced with a flood of new groups, a new naming plan emerged
in what was called the Great Renaming. This led to a lot of
disputes and the creation of the talk hierarchy. This and the first
six became known as the Big Seven. Then the alt groups emerged as a
free speech protest. Afterward, fewer Usenet sites made it possible
to access all the newsgroups. Instead, maintainers and users would
have to decide which one they'd support. Over the years, Usenet
began to decline as discussions were replaced both by spam and
flame wars. Group discussions were also overwhelmed by flame wars.
the binaries groups are popular and they are the
main reason for the growth in Usenet traffic.
From the «stay away you menaces» department:[]
Feed: Slashdot
Title: The Rise and Fall of Usenet
Author: BeauHD
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2023 19:02:00 -0500
Link: https://tech.slashdot.org/story/23/12/20/2147253/the-rise-and-fall-of-usenet?utm_source=rss1.0mainlinkanon&utm_medium=feed
An anonymous reader quotes a report from ZDNet: Long before Facebook existed, or
even before the Internet, there was Usenet. Usenet was the first social network.
Retrograde wrote:https://tech.slashdot.org/story/23/12/20/2147253/the-rise-and-fall-of-usenet?utm_source=rss1.0mainlinkanon&utm_medium=feed
From the «stay away you menaces» department:
Feed: Slashdot
Title: The Rise and Fall of Usenet
Author: BeauHD
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2023 19:02:00 -0500
Link:
An anonymous reader quotes a report from ZDNet: Long beforeFacebook existed, or
even before the Internet, there was Usenet. Usenet was the firstsocial network.
Now, with Google Groups abandoning Usenet, this oldest of allsocial networks is
doomed to disappear. Some might say it's well past time. As Googledeclared,
"Over the last several years, legitimate activity intext-based Usenet groups
has declined significantly because users have moved to more moderntechnologies
and formats such as social media and web-based forums. Much of thecontent being
disseminated via Usenet today is binary (non-text) file sharing,which Google
Groups does not support, as well as spam." True, these days,Usenet's content is
almost entirely spam, but in its day, Usenet was everything thatTwitter and
Reddit would become and more. In 1979, Duke University computerscience graduate
students Tom Truscott and Jim Ellis conceived of a network ofshared messages
under various topics. These messages, also known as articles orposts, were
submitted to topic categories, which became known as newsgroups.Within those
groups, messages were bound together in threads and sub-threads.[...] In 1980,
Truscott and Ellis, using the Unix to Unix Copy Protocol (UUCP),hooked up with
the University of North Carolina to form the first Usenet nodes.From there, it
would rapidly spread over the pre-Internet ARPANet and other earlynetworks.
These messages would be stored and retrieved from news servers.These would
"peer" to each other so that messages to a newsgroupwould be shared from server
to server and to user to user so that within hours, your messageswould reach
the entire networked world. Usenet would evolve its own networkprotocol,
Network News Transfer Protocol (NNTP), to speed the transfer ofthese messages.
Today, the social network Mastodon uses a similar approach with theActivityPub
protocol, while other social networks, such as Threads, areexploring using
ActivityPub to connect with Mastodon and the other social networksthat support
ActivityPub. As the saying goes, everything old is new again. [...]Usenet was
never an organized social network. Each server owner could -- anddid -- set its
own rules. Mind you, there was some organization to begin with. Thefirst
'mainstream' Usenet groups, comp, misc, news, rec, soc, and scihierarchies,
were widely accepted and disseminated until 1987. Then, faced witha flood of
new groups, a new naming plan emerged in what was called the GreatRenaming.
This led to a lot of disputes and the creation of the talkhierarchy. This and
the first six became known as the Big Seven. Then the alt groupsemerged as a
free speech protest. Afterward, fewer Usenet sites made it possibleto access
all the newsgroups. Instead, maintainers and users would have todecide which
one they'd support. Over the years, Usenet began to decline asdiscussions were
replaced both by spam and flame wars. Group discussions were alsooverwhelmed by
flame wars. "If, going forward, you want to keep an eye onUsenet -- things
could change, miracles can happen -- you'll need to get an accountfrom a Usenet
provider," writes ZDNet's Steven Vaughan-Nichols. "Ifavor Eternal September,
which offers free access to the discussion Usenet groups;NewsHosting, $9.99 a
month with access to all the Usenet groups; EasyNews, $9.98 a monthwith fast
downloads, and a good search engine; and Eweka, 9.50 Euros a monthand EU only
servers." "You'll also need a Usenet client. One popularfree one is Mozilla's
Thunderbird E-Mail client, which doubles as a Usenet client.EasyNews also
offers a client as part of its service. If you're all aboutdownloading files,
check out SABnzbd."http://twitter.com/home?status=The+Rise+and+Fall+of+Usenet%3A+https%3A%2F%2Ftech.slashdot.org%2Fstory%2F23%2F12%2F20%2F2147253%2F%3Futm_source%3Dtwitter%26utm_medium%3Dtwitter
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This is a response to the post seen at: http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=657627588#657627588
On 2023-12-21, MummyChunk <mummycullen> wrote:
This is a response to the post seen at: http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=657627588#657627588
Retrograde wrote:
.... which is why you missed the joke, that the previous messagehad been
posted via NNTP and an actual newsreader. But hey, happy holidays,amigo.
Happy Holidays to you too Compadre!
On Thu, 21 Dec 2023 19:47:59 +0000, mummycullen@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (MummyChunk) wrote:
Happy Holidays to you too Compadre!
JAB wrote:
https://twitter.com/crazyclipsonly/status/1737593293268041786
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Users: | 546 |
Nodes: | 16 (2 / 14) |
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