• Trump vowed he'd 'never' help Europe

    From JAB@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jan 10 09:55:03 2024
    Trump vowed he'd 'never' help Europe if it's attacked, top EU official
    says

    'By the way NATO is dead,' the former (and potential future) US
    president added in private meeting.

    https://www.politico.eu/article/donald-trump-vow-never-help-europe-attack-thierry-breton/

    He's pro Putin, but he does not understand consequences. Russia and
    China (et.al) would like to overthrow USA.

    He's not looking out for US's interest, as a POTUS.

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  • From Anonymous@21:1/5 to JAB on Wed Jan 10 21:05:48 2024
    JAB wrote:
    Trump vowed he'd 'never' help Europe if it's attacked, top EU official
    says

    'By the way NATO is dead,' the former (and potential future) US
    president added in private meeting.

    https://www.politico.eu/article/donald-trump-vow-never-help-europe-attack-thierry-breton/

    He's pro Putin, but he does not understand consequences. Russia and
    China (et.al) would like to overthrow USA.

    No they don't. You and the neocons are warmongers who want to overthrow
    Russia and China and install global faggotry.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to Anonymous on Wed Jan 10 20:26:56 2024
    On Wed, 10 Jan 2024 21:05:48 -0500, Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote:

    warmongers who want to overthrow
    Russia and China and install global faggotry.

    Tongzhi (term), a term that could mean either "comrade" or
    "homosexual" in modern Chinese language

    Russia Declares Gay Rights Movement as 'Extremist'
    The New York Times Nov 30, 2023

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  • From Retrograde@21:1/5 to JAB on Thu Jan 11 02:54:25 2024
    On 2024-01-10, JAB <here@is.invalid> wrote:
    Trump vowed he'd 'never' help Europe if it's attacked, top EU official
    says 'By the way NATO is dead,' the former (and potential future) US president added in private meeting. He's pro Putin, but he does not understand consequences. Russia and China (et.al) would like to
    overthrow USA.

    He's not looking out for US's interest, as a POTUS.

    Hell, he's not even looking out for the nation. He's only ever looked
    out for himself.

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  • From MummyChunk@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jan 12 06:04:29 2024
    JAB wrote:
    Trump vowed he'd 'never' help Europe if it's attacked, top EU
    official
    says

    'By the way NATO is dead,' the former (and potential future) US
    president added in private meeting.


    https://www.politico.eu/article/donald-trump-vow-never-help-europe-attack-thierry-breton/

    He's pro Putin, but he does not understand consequences. Russia
    and
    China (et.al) would like to overthrow USA.

    He's not looking out for US's interest, as a POTUS.

    The
    topic of Trump's attitude towards Europe and NATO is a controversial
    one, especially in light of his potential run for the presidency in
    2024. According to a senior EU official, Trump told European leaders
    in 2020 that the US would never help Europe if it was attacked, and
    that NATO was dead. This statement, if true, would undermine the core
    principle of collective defense that has been the foundation of the transatlantic alliance since 1949. It would also signal a major shift
    in US foreign policy, away from its traditional allies and towards a
    more isolationist and unilateralist stance.

    However, some might argue that Trump's remarks were not meant to be
    taken literally, but rather as a way of pressuring European countries
    to increase their defense spending and share more of the burden of
    NATO. Trump has repeatedly criticized European allies, especially
    Germany, for not meeting the agreed target of spending 2% of their GDP
    on defense. He has also claimed that the US pays too much for NATO and
    that other members are taking advantage of it. Therefore, some might
    see Trump's comments as a negotiating tactic, rather than a serious
    threat to abandon Europe.

    Another point of view might be that Trump's views on Europe and NATO
    reflect his admiration for Putin and his desire to improve relations
    with Russia. Trump has often praised Putin as a strong leader and
    expressed skepticism about the US intelligence community's findings
    that Russia interfered in the 2016 and 2020 elections. He has also
    advocated for inviting Russia back to the G7 and for withdrawing US
    troops from Germany. Some might interpret these actions as a sign of
    Trump's pro-Putin agenda, which could endanger the security and
    stability of Europe and the US.


    This is a response to the post seen at: http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=658765378#658765378

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to MummyChunk on Fri Jan 12 06:08:44 2024
    On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 06:04:29 +0000,
    mummycullen@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (MummyChunk) wrote:

    However, some might argue that Trump's remarks were not meant to be
    taken literally, but rather as a way of pressuring European countries
    to increase their defense spending and share more of the burden of
    NATO

    Trump won't commit to backing Ukraine in war with Russia
    CNN.com
    2023/05/10

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