Trump at rally today:

"One of the presidents of a big country stood up and said, 'Well, sir,
if we don't pay and were attacked by Russia, will you protect us?' I
said... 'No I would not protect you. In fact, I would encourage them
to do whatever the hell they want.'"

https://twitter.com/BeschlossDC/status/1756455880642498747

"An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him
last." - Churchill
===============================

He does not understand the reality of this situation.

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On Sat, 10 Feb 2024, JAB wrote:

Trump at rally today:

"One of the presidents of a big country stood up and said, 'Well, sir,
if we don't pay and were attacked by Russia, will you protect us?' I
said... 'No I would not protect you. In fact, I would encourage them
to do whatever the hell they want.'"

https://twitter.com/BeschlossDC/status/1756455880642498747

"An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him
last." - Churchill
===============================

He does not understand the reality of this situation.

I would argue that that is exactly what he does! The world cannot use the
US for free protection any longer. He is basically saying, if you expect
to freeload on the US, that is no longer possible. I want you to make the effort to protect yourself, and then I'll help you.

Trump moves on from yet another victory!

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Trump at rally today:

The Guardian US
Donald Trump says he would encourage Russia to attack Nato allies who
pay too little

The Atlantic
Trump Encourages Putin to Attack NATO Members

The Washington Post
Trump suggests he'd disregard NATO treaty, urge Russian attacks on
allies

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On Sun, 11 Feb 2024 11:56:31 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

He is basically saying, if you expect
to freeload on the US, that is no longer possible.

Rhetoric favors Putin....and favors US businesses selling arms

FWIW: Europe needs a nuclear deterrent of its own https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/new-atlanticist/europe-needs-a-nuclear-deterrent-of-its-own/

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On Sun, 11 Feb 2024, JAB wrote:

On Sun, 11 Feb 2024 11:56:31 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

He is basically saying, if you expect
to freeload on the US, that is no longer possible.

Rhetoric favors Putin....and favors US businesses selling arms

FWIW: Europe needs a nuclear deterrent of its own https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/new-atlanticist/europe-needs-a-nuclear-deterrent-of-its-own/

I'm all in favour of europe getting nuclear weapons. Sadly there's too
many socialists in europe so that will most likely never happen. However!
There is a right/nationalist wave at the moment, so just with the miracle
of Brexit, maybe one or two countries do manage to get some nuclear bombs built! =)

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On Sun, 11 Feb 2024 18:40:31 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

I'm all in favour of europe getting nuclear weapons.

Nuclear weapons in Germany

Germany is one of five NATO members to host US nuclear weapons on its
territory as part of a nuclear-sharing agreement. The German air force
is assigned approximately 15 B61 nuclear bombs, which are deployed at
the Buchel air base.

https://www.icanw.org/germany#

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On Sun, 11 Feb 2024, JAB wrote:

On Sun, 11 Feb 2024 18:40:31 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

I'm all in favour of europe getting nuclear weapons.

Nuclear weapons in Germany

Germany is one of five NATO members to host US nuclear weapons on its territory as part of a nuclear-sharing agreement. The German air force
is assigned approximately 15 B61 nuclear bombs, which are deployed at
the Buchel air base.

https://www.icanw.org/germany#

Hosting is one thing (and a good thing), but I doubt they have control.

On the other hand there's UK and France if memory serves, but I do say
that they could both have made decisions to dismantle them the last decade
or so since I last checked so don't take my word for it.

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On Sun, 11 Feb 2024 11:56:31 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

He is basically saying, if you expect
to freeload on the US, that is no longer possible.

Laurence Tribe @tribelaw

A brilliant retired lawyer from Minnesota, Albert T. Goins, has given
me permission to quote this excerpt from his latest observations about
Mr. Trump's willingness to to give aid and support to those who would
attack our allies:


"Perhaps, Mr. Trump forgot (if he ever knew) that our international
obligations and treaties--such as those we undertook as members of the
North Atlantic Treaty Organization--are themselves the supreme law of
the land as recognized at Article VI of our Constitution.

As the so-called supremacy clause states in relevant part:

"This Constitution, and the laws of the United States which shall be
made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be
made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme
law of the land...." Article VI, Clause 2 of the U. S. Constitution.

Now, Mr. Trump's inane remarks are likely well with the zone of
protected political speech under our First Amendment rights, but his
South Carolina statement evinces Trump's fundamental unfitness to
serve as President--and reveals his willingness to turn our treaty
obligations into a seamy political 'protection racket.'

And, Trump's claims that he would encourage an adversary to attack an
ally based on his personal view that they were 'delinquent' in making
financial contributions to that alliance raise more serious concerns.

Donald Trump's statements in South Carolina may not themselves rise to
the level of an insurrection, but they clearly reveal the fact that if
he regains office Mr. Trump is poised to unravel the binding
obligations which the Constitution has imposed upon every president
from Washington to Biden."

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On Sun, 11 Feb 2024, JAB wrote:

On Sun, 11 Feb 2024 11:56:31 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

He is basically saying, if you expect
to freeload on the US, that is no longer possible.

Laurence Tribe @tribelaw

A brilliant retired lawyer from Minnesota, Albert T. Goins, has given

Never heard of. Is he some US expert on Nato?

As for Natos law being binding, there are two options:

1. Ignore them.
2. Leave Nato.

That is why Trump is so visionary. In the EU, when citizens of a country complain, it is very common for the politicians to shrug and say "it's
EU-law, we can never change it".

But what they don't realize, and people like mr Tribe above, is that politicians have the power to change/remove/create laws, so that does
not apply to them.

I'm pretty sure Trump can just ignore the law, because without the US
Nato collapses. What is Jens of Nato fame going to do? If Trump
withdraws, he loses his comfy enormous salary, so of course he'll grant
the US an exception or will politely ignore it.

Looking forward to Trump, once again, also leaving the BS Paris climate
deal which is successfully used by China and developing nations to
decrease the quality of life and wealth of the US.

Best regards,
Daniel

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On Mon, 12 Feb 2024 10:00:35 +0100
D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

On Sun, 11 Feb 2024, JAB wrote:

On Sun, 11 Feb 2024 11:56:31 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

He is basically saying, if you expect
to freeload on the US, that is no longer possible.

Laurence Tribe @tribelaw

A brilliant retired lawyer from Minnesota, Albert T. Goins, has given

Never heard of. Is he some US expert on Nato?

As for Natos law being binding, there are two options:

1. Ignore them.
2. Leave Nato.

That is why Trump is so visionary. In the EU, when citizens of a country complain, it is very common for the politicians to shrug and say "it's EU-law, we can never change it".

But what they don't realize, and people like mr Tribe above, is that politicians have the power to change/remove/create laws, so that does
not apply to them.

I'm pretty sure Trump can just ignore the law, because without the US
Nato collapses. What is Jens of Nato fame going to do? If Trump
withdraws, he loses his comfy enormous salary, so of course he'll grant
the US an exception or will politely ignore it.

Looking forward to Trump, once again, also leaving the BS Paris climate
deal which is successfully used by China and developing nations to
decrease the quality of life and wealth of the US.

Best regards,
Daniel

You are far too late, trolling with right-wing BS just doesn't
twitch even a small hackle on usenet these days.


--
Bah, and indeed Humbug.

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On Mon, 12 Feb 2024 10:20:50 +0000, "Kerr-Mudd, John"
<admin@127.0.0.1> wrote:

trolling with right-wing BS just doesn't
twitch even a small hackle on usenet these days.

RE

Best regards,
Daniel

While some conservative scholars hold that Daniel existed and his book
was written in the 6th century BCE,[2][3] most scholars agree that
Daniel is not a historical figure and that much of the book is a
cryptic allusion to the reign of the 2nd century BCE Hellenistic king
Antiochus IV Epiphanes.[4][5] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_(biblical_figure)

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On Mon, 12 Feb 2024, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:

On Mon, 12 Feb 2024 10:00:35 +0100
D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

On Sun, 11 Feb 2024, JAB wrote:

On Sun, 11 Feb 2024 11:56:31 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

He is basically saying, if you expect
to freeload on the US, that is no longer possible.

Laurence Tribe @tribelaw

A brilliant retired lawyer from Minnesota, Albert T. Goins, has given

Never heard of. Is he some US expert on Nato?

As for Natos law being binding, there are two options:

1. Ignore them.
2. Leave Nato.

That is why Trump is so visionary. In the EU, when citizens of a country
complain, it is very common for the politicians to shrug and say "it's
EU-law, we can never change it".

But what they don't realize, and people like mr Tribe above, is that
politicians have the power to change/remove/create laws, so that does
not apply to them.

I'm pretty sure Trump can just ignore the law, because without the US
Nato collapses. What is Jens of Nato fame going to do? If Trump
withdraws, he loses his comfy enormous salary, so of course he'll grant
the US an exception or will politely ignore it.

Looking forward to Trump, once again, also leaving the BS Paris climate
deal which is successfully used by China and developing nations to
decrease the quality of life and wealth of the US.

Best regards,
Daniel

You are far too late, trolling with right-wing BS just doesn't
twitch even a small hackle on usenet these days.

Trolling? It's the truth. Blaming trolling is just the socialists way of
not having to think.

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On Mon, 12 Feb 2024, JAB wrote:

On Mon, 12 Feb 2024 10:20:50 +0000, "Kerr-Mudd, John"
<admin@127.0.0.1> wrote:

trolling with right-wing BS just doesn't
twitch even a small hackle on usenet these days.

RE

Best regards,
Daniel

While some conservative scholars hold that Daniel existed and his book
was written in the 6th century BCE,[2][3] most scholars agree that
Daniel is not a historical figure and that much of the book is a
cryptic allusion to the reign of the 2nd century BCE Hellenistic king Antiochus IV Epiphanes.[4][5] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_(biblical_figure)

How did you know? You're good!

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On Mon, 12 Feb 2024 10:00:35 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

Trump

"The problem with Trump's comments is not only that they gave Putin
succor and hope, about Ukraine and Europe in general, but they could
also lead to deterrence failure -- and war -- if Putin decides to try
his luck given Trump's encouragement," O'Hanlon said.

"In other words, it doesn't really matter what other Republicans
think. It matters what Putin thinks and how he decides to act," he
added. "Trump's comments are therefore playing with fire whether the
GOP thinks so or not."

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/4463649-trumps-nato-threats-split-gop/

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On Mon, 12 Feb 2024, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:

On Mon, 12 Feb 2024 10:00:35 +0100
D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

On Sun, 11 Feb 2024, JAB wrote:

On Sun, 11 Feb 2024 11:56:31 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

He is basically saying, if you expect
to freeload on the US, that is no longer possible.

Laurence Tribe @tribelaw

A brilliant retired lawyer from Minnesota, Albert T. Goins, has given

Never heard of. Is he some US expert on Nato?

As for Natos law being binding, there are two options:

1. Ignore them.
2. Leave Nato.

That is why Trump is so visionary. In the EU, when citizens of a country
complain, it is very common for the politicians to shrug and say "it's
EU-law, we can never change it".

But what they don't realize, and people like mr Tribe above, is that
politicians have the power to change/remove/create laws, so that does
not apply to them.

I'm pretty sure Trump can just ignore the law, because without the US
Nato collapses. What is Jens of Nato fame going to do? If Trump
withdraws, he loses his comfy enormous salary, so of course he'll grant
the US an exception or will politely ignore it.

Looking forward to Trump, once again, also leaving the BS Paris climate
deal which is successfully used by China and developing nations to
decrease the quality of life and wealth of the US.

Best regards,
Daniel

You are far too late, trolling with right-wing BS just doesn't
twitch even a small hackle on usenet these days.

Don't know in which universe you live, but I'm just crushing it here! =)

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On Tue, 13 Feb 2024 09:59:39 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

but I'm just crushing it here! =)

Be Brief
Never say in ten words what you can say in fewer. Say it succinctly
and it will have a greater impact. Remember that the longer you make
your article, the fewer people will bother to read it.

Cite Appropriate References
If you are using facts to support a cause, state where they came from. ======================

Oh, your Usenet etiquette and style needs improvement....old timers
know who is who.

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On Tue, 13 Feb 2024, JAB wrote:

On Tue, 13 Feb 2024 09:59:39 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

but I'm just crushing it here! =)

Be Brief
Never say in ten words what you can say in fewer. Say it succinctly
and it will have a greater impact. Remember that the longer you make
your article, the fewer people will bother to read it.

Cite Appropriate References
If you are using facts to support a cause, state where they came from. ======================

Oh, your Usenet etiquette and style needs improvement....old timers
know who is who.

Come mothers and fathers
Throughout the land
And don't criticize
What you can't understand
Your sons and your daughters
Are beyond your command
Your old road is rapidly agin'
Please get out of the new one if you can't lend your hand
For the times they are a-changin'.

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On Tue, 13 Feb 2024 17:17:06 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

For the times they are a-changin'.

Yep, that person has been a Capitalist at heart.

The "times" have always been "a-changin"

And when he went to China, like Tesla, they adhered to the party's
rules.

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