Canada has introduced a new bill that aims to combat online abuse with
steep penalties for hate crimes - including life in prison for inciting genocide.
The proposed Online Harms Act requires social media platforms to remove posts - such as those which sexualise children - within 24 hours.
The law would regulate social media companies, live streaming platforms
and "user-uploaded adult content" websites.
The bill still needs to be voted on by Canada's Parliament
It lists seven categories of harmful content that providers would be required to remove from their websites. Banned content includes posts made to bully a child or those encouraging self-harm.
The proposed Act would create a "digital safety commission of Canada" to regulate online platforms.
"We know the harms we experience online can have real world impacts with tragic, and sometimes fatal consequences," Justice Minister Arif Virani
said in a news conference on Monday.
"And yet so much of this goes unchecked."
He said that the bill would ban deep-fakes, such as images that recently went viral showing Taylor Swift's head on a naked woman's body. Private messages sent between individuals would fall outside of the law's provisions, he added.
The bill must first be studied by a parliamentary committee and by the Senate - both of which may introduce changes to the final draft of the
bill.
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's government also plans to amend the
criminal code to increase hate crime penalties, including by introducing a new offense punishable by up to life imprisonment for those found guilty
of inciting genocide.
The Canadian Human Rights Act would also be amended to classify hate
speech as discrimination, and would allow the Human Rights Tribunal to handle hate speech offenses.
https://dailystormer.in/canada-trudeaus-government-wants-more-censorship-life-in-prison-for-inciting-genocide/
Canada: Trudeau's Government Wants More Censorship, Life in Prison for "Inciting Genocide"
Snake Baker
March 1, 2024
If you don't like it, the government will be happy to help you kill
yourself.
Seriously, they're going to sentence people to prison for speech crimes and then say "your other option is to kill yourself."
BBC:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68409929
Canada has introduced a new bill that aims to combat online abuse with steep penalties for hate crimes - including life in prison for inciting genocide.
The proposed Online Harms Act requires social media platforms to remove posts - such as those which sexualise children - within 24 hours.
The law would regulate social media companies, live streaming platforms and "user-uploaded adult content" websites.
The bill still needs to be voted on by Canada's Parliament
It lists seven categories of harmful content that providers would be required to remove from their websites. Banned content includes posts made to bully a child or those encouraging self-harm.
Oh, my.
Someone has to think of the children, you know.
The poor children.
The proposed Act would create a "digital safety commission of Canada" to regulate online platforms.
"We know the harms we experience online can have real world impacts with tragic, and sometimes fatal consequences," Justice Minister Arif Virani said in a news conference on Monday.
No, actually, they don't. If someone kills themselves because of something they saw on the internet, that is a decision they made. It's no different than killing yourself because you heard the sound of birds. Actually, it is different, because you can't turn off the sound of birds. You can turn off your internet screen.
There is no such thing as "real world internet harm." It's a total spook, created for the justification of censorship. And the only people who want to censor political speech are liars.
"And yet so much of this goes unchecked."
He said that the bill would ban deep-fakes, such as images that recently went viral showing Taylor Swift's head on a naked woman's body. Private messages sent between individuals would fall outside of the law's provisions, he added.
Banning deep fakes is deranged.
People have a right to make images on their computers.
You could ban porn. Porn isn't protected speech. But they won't ban porn, because porn keeps the male population docile. If it wasn't for porn, men would be rioting over the denial of their sexual needs by the feminist
state.
The bill must first be studied by a parliamentary committee and by the Senate - both of which may introduce changes to the final draft of the bill.
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's government also plans to amend the criminal code to increase hate crime penalties, including by introducing a new offense punishable by up to life imprisonment for those found guilty of inciting genocide.
The Canadian Human Rights Act would also be amended to classify hate speech as discrimination, and would allow the Human Rights Tribunal to handle hate speech offenses.
Life in prison.
For calling for genocide.
Calling for genocide is very reasonable, at least in one specific case I can think of.
But what about the Jews, who are actually committing a genocide? Are they going to be punished? Or is it just going to be people who say the Jews deserve the same treatment they give the Palestinians?
On Fri, 1 Mar 2024 23:01:26 -0500
Here is the News <news@here.anon> wrote:
https://dailystormer.in/canada-trudeaus-government-wants-more-censorship-life-in-prison-for-inciting-genocide/
Canada: Trudeau's Government Wants More Censorship, Life in Prison for
"Inciting Genocide"
Censorship? No, that's a misread of the proposed
act. What they're doing is updating the laws to
make them properly-effective in dealing with the
incitement of hate, comitting sexual harassment,
and posting child pornography on social media.
Inciting genocide is already illegal in Canada,
and the changes are extending the punishment to a
"maximum" sentence of life in prison from the
current maximum of 5 years.
Are you offended that people who incite genocide
could be convicted and put in prison? Does it
On Sat, 2 Mar 2024 03:48:15 -0800, Randolf Richardson ??? <randolf@canadianatheists.ca> wrote:
On Fri, 1 Mar 2024 23:01:26 -0500
Here is the News <news@here.anon> wrote:
https://dailystormer.in/canada-trudeaus-government-wants-more-censorship-life-in-prison-for-inciting-genocide/
Canada: Trudeau's Government Wants More Censorship, Life in Prison for
"Inciting Genocide"
Censorship? No, that's a misread of the proposed
act. What they're doing is updating the laws to
make them properly-effective in dealing with the
incitement of hate, comitting sexual harassment,
and posting child pornography on social media.
The end result IS censorship. Odd that you would deny this.
Inciting genocide is already illegal in Canada,
and the changes are extending the punishment to a
"maximum" sentence of life in prison from the
current maximum of 5 years.
Are you offended that people who incite genocide
could be convicted and put in prison? Does it
Misgendering someone in Canada is now a crime. How much do you trust
the politicians to not redefine "incite genocide"? I have little
confidence that they won't do this.
Alan wrote:
On 2024-03-02 08:07, NoBody wrote:
On Sat, 2 Mar 2024 03:48:15 -0800, Randolf Richardson ???
<randolf@canadianatheists.ca> wrote:
On Fri, 1 Mar 2024 23:01:26 -0500
Here is the News <news@here.anon> wrote:
https://dailystormer.in/canada-trudeaus-government-wants-more-censorship-life-in-prison-for-inciting-genocide/
Canada: Trudeau's Government Wants More Censorship, Life in Prison for >>>>> "Inciting Genocide"
Censorship? No, that's a misread of the proposed
act. What they're doing is updating the laws to
make them properly-effective in dealing with the
incitement of hate, comitting sexual harassment,
and posting child pornography on social media.
The end result IS censorship. Odd that you would deny this.
Inciting genocide is already illegal in Canada,
and the changes are extending the punishment to a
"maximum" sentence of life in prison from the
current maximum of 5 years.
Are you offended that people who incite genocide
could be convicted and put in prison? Does it
Misgendering someone in Canada is now a crime. How much do you trust
the politicians to not redefine "incite genocide"? I have little
confidence that they won't do this.
I suggest you start reading something other than Newsmax:
'Fact check: No, new Canadian bill won't allow prosecution of those
who misgender others'
<https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2023/04/17/fact-check-post-misrepresents-new-canadian-lgbtq-bill/11648841002/>
'Contrary to the tweet's claim, the bill doesn't prohibit misgendering
or criticizing members of the LGBTQ community, nor does it mention
prosecution. Instead, it allows the attorney general to designate
"2SLGBTQI+ community safety zones."
The bill allows for a fine of up to $25,000 for those that "perform an
act of intimidation" within 100 meters of the safety zones.
"Acts of intimidation" are defined by the bill as creating a criminal
disturbance, distributing hate propaganda, uttering threats on the
basis of social orientation or gender roles, or engaging in homophobic
or transphobic protests or demonstrations.'
if you don't like the government where you live , move
On Sat, 2 Mar 2024 03:48:15 -0800, Randolf Richardson ??? <randolf@canadianatheists.ca> wrote:
On Fri, 1 Mar 2024 23:01:26 -0500
Here is the News <news@here.anon> wrote:
https://dailystormer.in/canada-trudeaus-government-wants-more-censorship-life-in-prison-for-inciting-genocide/
Canada: Trudeau's Government Wants More Censorship, Life in Prison for
"Inciting Genocide"
Censorship? No, that's a misread of the proposed
act. What they're doing is updating the laws to
make them properly-effective in dealing with the
incitement of hate, comitting sexual harassment,
and posting child pornography on social media.
The end result IS censorship. Odd that you would deny this.
Inciting genocide is already illegal in Canada,
and the changes are extending the punishment to a
"maximum" sentence of life in prison from the
current maximum of 5 years.
Are you offended that people who incite genocide
could be convicted and put in prison? Does it
Misgendering someone in Canada is now a crime. How much do you trust
the politicians to not redefine "incite genocide"? I have little
confidence that they won't do this.
On Fri, 1 Mar 2024 23:01:26 -0500
Here is the News <news@here.anon> wrote:
https://dailystormer.in/canada-trudeaus-government-wants-more-censorship-life-in-prison-for-inciting-genocide/
Canada: Trudeau's Government Wants More Censorship, Life in Prison for
"Inciting Genocide"
Censorship? No, that's a misread of the proposed
act. What they're doing is updating the laws to
make them properly-effective in dealing with the
incitement of hate, comitting sexual harassment,
and posting child pornography on social media.
Inciting genocide is already illegal in Canada,
and the changes are extending the punishment to a
"maximum" sentence of life in prison from the
current maximum of 5 years.
Are you offended that people who incite genocide
could be convicted and put in prison? Does it
offend you that inciting hate, committing sexual
harassment, or posting child pornography is being
explicitly classified as a criminal act? If so,
why does it offend you? Frankly, I think this is
good because people who advocate for genocide,
sexually harass others, or post child pornography
should be held accountable for those crimes.
Snake Baker
March 1, 2024
If you don't like it, the government will be happy to help you kill
yourself.
Seriously, they're going to sentence people to prison for speech crimes and >> then say "your other option is to kill yourself."
Your accusation that this new legislation is
somehow encouraging people to kill themselves
isn't commensurate with reality, because the act
doesn't prescribe such an outcome at all.
You obviously haven't read the proposed
legislation -- I suggest that you stop following
Dr. Jordan Peterson's approach because he was
dead-wrong about Canadian laws in the past, and
if he's been giving his opinions on these new
laws (I don't know because I don't follow him)
then it won't surprise anyone with half-a-brain
that he's wrong again.
BBC:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68409929
Canada has introduced a new bill that aims to combat online abuse with
steep penalties for hate crimes - including life in prison for inciting >> > genocide.
The proposed Online Harms Act requires social media platforms to remove >> > posts - such as those which sexualise children - within 24 hours.
The law would regulate social media companies, live streaming platforms >> > and "user-uploaded adult content" websites.
The bill still needs to be voted on by Canada's Parliament
It lists seven categories of harmful content that providers would be
required to remove from their websites. Banned content includes posts made
to bully a child or those encouraging self-harm.
Oh, my.
Someone has to think of the children, you know.
The poor children.
The legislation is clarifying what social media
companies have mostly been doing already, albeit
with various inconsistencies. So, a baseline is
needed to ensure certain practices are in place,
such as reporting back to the user who flagged
content as to the outcome of whether the content
of concern was removed or left in place.
The legislation also formalizes recourse for
users to report to the Government of Canada when
a social media operator doesn't provide an easy
means of reporting that violates the act.
The proposed Act would create a "digital safety commission of Canada" to >> > regulate online platforms.
"We know the harms we experience online can have real world impacts with >> > tragic, and sometimes fatal consequences," Justice Minister Arif Virani >> > said in a news conference on Monday.
No, actually, they don't. If someone kills themselves because of something >> they saw on the internet, that is a decision they made. It's no different
than killing yourself because you heard the sound of birds. Actually, it is >> different, because you can't turn off the sound of birds. You can turn off >> your internet screen.
There is no such thing as "real world internet harm." It's a total spook,
created for the justification of censorship. And the only people who want to >> censor political speech are liars.
Again, you obviously haven't read the act, which
clearly states in the "Purpposes of [the] Act"
section that freedom of expression is respected
in [the first reading of] section 9(c):
"considering that exposure to harmful content
online impacts the safety and well-being of
persons in Canada, mitigate the risk that
persons in Canada will be exposed to harmful
content online while respecting their
freedom of expression;"
Your paranoia comes across as a Conservative Party
talking point that plays on peoples' fears. You
really should read the proposed legislation and do
some basic research instead of relying on someone
else's faulty opinions.
"And yet so much of this goes unchecked."
He said that the bill would ban deep-fakes, such as images that recently >> > went viral showing Taylor Swift's head on a naked woman's body. Private >> > messages sent between individuals would fall outside of the law's
provisions, he added.
Banning deep fakes is deranged.
There isn't a direct banishment on deepfakes
in general. Deepfakes are included as one of
the methods of generating "intimate content
communicated without consent," which is what's
actually being regulated.
People have a right to make images on their computers.
That's correct, ableit with the exception of
making child pornography -- that's illegal, and
it can land you in prison for 1 to 14 years.
You could ban porn. Porn isn't protected speech. But they won't ban porn,
because porn keeps the male population docile. If it wasn't for porn, men
would be rioting over the denial of their sexual needs by the feminist
state.
That's a non-sequitur. Pornography is not
illegal in Canada, and responsible publishers
(e.g., Playboy, PornHub, etc.) are thriving in
the Canadian markets, publishing content that
complies with Canadian law.
The bill must first be studied by a parliamentary committee and by the
Senate - both of which may introduce changes to the final draft of the
bill.
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's government also plans to amend the
criminal code to increase hate crime penalties, including by introducing a
new offense punishable by up to life imprisonment for those found guilty >> > of inciting genocide.
The Canadian Human Rights Act would also be amended to classify hate
speech as discrimination, and would allow the Human Rights Tribunal to
handle hate speech offenses.
Life in prison.
For calling for genocide.
That's a maximum sentence, and when one considers
the consequences, the victims of genocide aren't
being resurrected nor brought back to life in any
other fashion.
Calling for genocide is very reasonable, at least in one specific case I can >> think of.
What case would that be? From my perspective,
genocide is not a reasonable option.
But what about the Jews, who are actually committing a genocide? Are they
going to be punished? Or is it just going to be people who say the Jews
deserve the same treatment they give the Palestinians?
You seem to be pushing propaganda. I could ask
you "What about ending the 80-year long war?" but
I suspect you don't care about this because it
wasn't the focus of the rest of what you wrote.
But, please, feel free to correct me and tell me
that you favour a complete end to the war between
Palestine and Israel, with a result being that
people from both sides can live in peace, with
the Jews and the Muslims co-existing without any
animosity. That is possible, right? Or do you
prefer to use genocide as a tool of resolution?
On Sat, 2 Mar 2024 03:48:15 -0800, Randolf Richardson ??? <randolf@canadianatheists.ca> wrote:
On Fri, 1 Mar 2024 23:01:26 -0500
Here is the News <news@here.anon> wrote:
https://dailystormer.in/canada-trudeaus-government-wants-more-censorship-life-in-prison-for-inciting-genocide/
Canada: Trudeau's Government Wants More Censorship, Life in Prison for
"Inciting Genocide"
Censorship? No, that's a misread of the proposed
act. What they're doing is updating the laws to
make them properly-effective in dealing with the
incitement of hate, comitting sexual harassment,
and posting child pornography on social media.
Inciting genocide is already illegal in Canada,
and the changes are extending the punishment to a
"maximum" sentence of life in prison from the
current maximum of 5 years.
Are you offended that people who incite genocide
could be convicted and put in prison? Does it
offend you that inciting hate, committing sexual
harassment, or posting child pornography is being
explicitly classified as a criminal act? If so,
why does it offend you? Frankly, I think this is
good because people who advocate for genocide,
sexually harass others, or post child pornography
should be held accountable for those crimes.
Snake Baker
March 1, 2024
If you don't like it, the government will be happy to help you kill
yourself.
Seriously, they're going to sentence people to prison for speech crimes and >>> then say "your other option is to kill yourself."
Your accusation that this new legislation is
somehow encouraging people to kill themselves
isn't commensurate with reality, because the act
doesn't prescribe such an outcome at all.
You obviously haven't read the proposed
legislation -- I suggest that you stop following
Dr. Jordan Peterson's approach because he was
dead-wrong about Canadian laws in the past, and
if he's been giving his opinions on these new
laws (I don't know because I don't follow him)
then it won't surprise anyone with half-a-brain
that he's wrong again.
BBC:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68409929
> Canada has introduced a new bill that aims to combat online abuse with >>> > steep penalties for hate crimes - including life in prison for inciting >>> > genocide.
>
> The proposed Online Harms Act requires social media platforms to remove >>> > posts - such as those which sexualise children - within 24 hours.
>
> The law would regulate social media companies, live streaming platforms >>> > and "user-uploaded adult content" websites.
>
> The bill still needs to be voted on by Canada's Parliament
>
> It lists seven categories of harmful content that providers would be >>> > required to remove from their websites. Banned content includes posts made
> to bully a child or those encouraging self-harm.
Oh, my.
Someone has to think of the children, you know.
The poor children.
The legislation is clarifying what social media
companies have mostly been doing already, albeit
with various inconsistencies. So, a baseline is
needed to ensure certain practices are in place,
such as reporting back to the user who flagged
content as to the outcome of whether the content
of concern was removed or left in place.
The legislation also formalizes recourse for
users to report to the Government of Canada when
a social media operator doesn't provide an easy
means of reporting that violates the act.
> The proposed Act would create a "digital safety commission of Canada" to
> regulate online platforms.
>
> "We know the harms we experience online can have real world impacts with
> tragic, and sometimes fatal consequences," Justice Minister Arif Virani >>> > said in a news conference on Monday.
No, actually, they don't. If someone kills themselves because of something >>> they saw on the internet, that is a decision they made. It's no different >>> than killing yourself because you heard the sound of birds. Actually, it is >>> different, because you can't turn off the sound of birds. You can turn off >>> your internet screen.
There is no such thing as "real world internet harm." It's a total spook, >>> created for the justification of censorship. And the only people who want to
censor political speech are liars.
Again, you obviously haven't read the act, which
clearly states in the "Purpposes of [the] Act"
section that freedom of expression is respected
in [the first reading of] section 9(c):
"considering that exposure to harmful content
online impacts the safety and well-being of
persons in Canada, mitigate the risk that
persons in Canada will be exposed to harmful
content online while respecting their
freedom of expression;"
Your paranoia comes across as a Conservative Party
talking point that plays on peoples' fears. You
really should read the proposed legislation and do
some basic research instead of relying on someone
else's faulty opinions.
> "And yet so much of this goes unchecked."
>
> He said that the bill would ban deep-fakes, such as images that recently
> went viral showing Taylor Swift's head on a naked woman's body. Private >>> > messages sent between individuals would fall outside of the law's
> provisions, he added.
Banning deep fakes is deranged.
There isn't a direct banishment on deepfakes
in general. Deepfakes are included as one of
the methods of generating "intimate content
communicated without consent," which is what's
actually being regulated.
People have a right to make images on their computers.
That's correct, ableit with the exception of
making child pornography -- that's illegal, and
it can land you in prison for 1 to 14 years.
You could ban porn. Porn isn't protected speech. But they won't ban porn, >>> because porn keeps the male population docile. If it wasn't for porn, men >>> would be rioting over the denial of their sexual needs by the feminist
state.
That's a non-sequitur. Pornography is not
illegal in Canada, and responsible publishers
(e.g., Playboy, PornHub, etc.) are thriving in
the Canadian markets, publishing content that
complies with Canadian law.
> The bill must first be studied by a parliamentary committee and by the >>> > Senate - both of which may introduce changes to the final draft of the >>> > bill.
>
> Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's government also plans to amend the
> criminal code to increase hate crime penalties, including by introducing a
> new offense punishable by up to life imprisonment for those found guilty
> of inciting genocide.
>
> The Canadian Human Rights Act would also be amended to classify hate >>> > speech as discrimination, and would allow the Human Rights Tribunal to >>> > handle hate speech offenses.
Life in prison.
For calling for genocide.
That's a maximum sentence, and when one considers
the consequences, the victims of genocide aren't
being resurrected nor brought back to life in any
other fashion.
Calling for genocide is very reasonable, at least in one specific case I can
think of.
What case would that be? From my perspective,
genocide is not a reasonable option.
But what about the Jews, who are actually committing a genocide? Are they >>> going to be punished? Or is it just going to be people who say the Jews
deserve the same treatment they give the Palestinians?
You seem to be pushing propaganda. I could ask
you "What about ending the 80-year long war?" but
I suspect you don't care about this because it
wasn't the focus of the rest of what you wrote.
But, please, feel free to correct me and tell me
that you favour a complete end to the war between
Palestine and Israel, with a result being that
people from both sides can live in peace, with
the Jews and the Muslims co-existing without any
animosity. That is possible, right? Or do you
prefer to use genocide as a tool of resolution?
The Jews do not commit genocide or any other wrongs. We are the chosen
people and it is a hate crime for anyone to suggest otherwise. If
anyone chooses to argue the point, I have just one word to say:
"HOLOCAUST".
On Sat, 02 Mar 2024 11:07:30 -0500
NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Sat, 2 Mar 2024 03:48:15 -0800, Randolf Richardson ??? <randolf@canadianatheists.ca> wrote:
On Fri, 1 Mar 2024 23:01:26 -0500
Here is the News <news@here.anon> wrote:
https://dailystormer.in
[]Canada: Trudeau's Government Wants More Censorship, Life in Prison for >> "Inciting Genocide"
Misgendering people in Canada isn't a crime. What is
a crime is harassing people, and the various forms of
harassment include intentionally misgendering someone
as part of that harassment effort. (If you actually
read the relevant Canadian laws you would know this.)
On Sat, 02 Mar 2024 11:07:30 -0500
NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Sat, 2 Mar 2024 03:48:15 -0800, Randolf Richardson ??? <randolf@canadianatheists.ca> wrote:
On Fri, 1 Mar 2024 23:01:26 -0500
Here is the News <news@here.anon> wrote:
https://dailystormer.in/canada-trudeaus-government-wants-more-censorship-life-in-prison-for-inciting-genocide/
Canada: Trudeau's Government Wants More Censorship, Life in Prison for >> "Inciting Genocide"
Censorship? No, that's a misread of the proposed
act. What they're doing is updating the laws to
make them properly-effective in dealing with the
incitement of hate, comitting sexual harassment,
and posting child pornography on social media.
The end result IS censorship. Odd that you would deny this.
So, based on your reasoning ... for inciting genocide,
a maximum penalty of 5 years in prison is not censorship,
but the new maximum penalty of life in prison is?
Inciting genocide is already illegal, producing or
ditributing or possessing child porngraphy is already
illegal, and inciting hate is already illegal. Are you
opposed to these laws, and think that people should be
exempt from accountability when commiting the very acts
that both the current and updated laws prohibit?
Inciting genocide is already illegal in Canada,
and the changes are extending the punishment to a
"maximum" sentence of life in prison from the
current maximum of 5 years.
Are you offended that people who incite genocide
could be convicted and put in prison? Does it
Misgendering someone in Canada is now a crime. How much do you trust
the politicians to not redefine "incite genocide"? I have little confidence that they won't do this.
Dr. Jordan Peterson is wrong about that -- he doesn't
understand Canadian law (and it's not his background),
so you should really stop paying any attention to his
opinions on this matter (which are trivially debunked
by simply reading the laws he blathers on about).
Misgendering people in Canada isn't a crime. What is
a crime is harassing people, and the various forms of
harassment include intentionally misgendering someone
as part of that harassment effort. (If you actually
read the relevant Canadian laws you would know this.)
On Sat, 02 Mar 2024 11:07:30 -0500
NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Sat, 2 Mar 2024 03:48:15 -0800, Randolf Richardson ???
<randolf@canadianatheists.ca> wrote:
On Fri, 1 Mar 2024 23:01:26 -0500
Here is the News <news@here.anon> wrote:
https://dailystormer.in/canada-trudeaus-government-wants-more-censorship-life-in-prison-for-inciting-genocide/
Canada: Trudeau's Government Wants More Censorship, Life in Prison for
"Inciting Genocide"
Censorship? No, that's a misread of the proposed
act. What they're doing is updating the laws to
make them properly-effective in dealing with the
incitement of hate, comitting sexual harassment,
and posting child pornography on social media.
The end result IS censorship. Odd that you would deny this.
So, based on your reasoning ... for inciting genocide,
a maximum penalty of 5 years in prison is not censorship,
but the new maximum penalty of life in prison is?''
Inciting genocide is already illegal, producing or
ditributing or possessing child porngraphy is already
illegal, and inciting hate is already illegal. Are you
opposed to these laws, and think that people should be
exempt from accountability when commiting the very acts
that both the current and updated laws prohibit?
Inciting genocide is already illegal in Canada,
and the changes are extending the punishment to a
"maximum" sentence of life in prison from the
current maximum of 5 years.
Are you offended that people who incite genocide
could be convicted and put in prison? Does it
Misgendering someone in Canada is now a crime. How much do you trust
the politicians to not redefine "incite genocide"? I have little
confidence that they won't do this.
Dr. Jordan Peterson is wrong about that -- he doesn't
understand Canadian law (and it's not his background),
so you should really stop paying any attention to his
opinions on this matter (which are trivially debunked
by simply reading the laws he blathers on about).
Misgendering people in Canada isn't a crime.
What is
a crime is harassing people, and the various forms of
harassment include intentionally misgendering someone
as part of that harassment effort. (If you actually
read the relevant Canadian laws you would know this.)
On Sat, 2 Mar 2024 09:12:52 -0800
Randolf Richardson ??? <randolf@canadianatheists.ca> wrote:
On Sat, 02 Mar 2024 11:07:30 -0500
NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Sat, 2 Mar 2024 03:48:15 -0800, Randolf Richardson ???
<randolf@canadianatheists.ca> wrote:
On Fri, 1 Mar 2024 23:01:26 -0500
Here is the News <news@here.anon> wrote:
https://dailystormer.in
[]
Already a bad sgin.
[]Canada: Trudeau's Government Wants More Censorship, Life in Prison for >> > >> "Inciting Genocide"
Misgendering people in Canada isn't a crime. What is
a crime is harassing people, and the various forms of
harassment include intentionally misgendering someone
as part of that harassment effort. (If you actually
read the relevant Canadian laws you would know this.)
It's a tough job correcting people who spread misinformation (aka lies) on >the internet; but someone has to do it.
xkcd386
On 2024-03-02 08:07, NoBody wrote:
On Sat, 2 Mar 2024 03:48:15 -0800, Randolf Richardson ???
<randolf@canadianatheists.ca> wrote:
On Fri, 1 Mar 2024 23:01:26 -0500
Here is the News <news@here.anon> wrote:
https://dailystormer.in/canada-trudeaus-government-wants-more-censorship-life-in-prison-for-inciting-genocide/
Canada: Trudeau's Government Wants More Censorship, Life in Prison for >>>> "Inciting Genocide"
Censorship? No, that's a misread of the proposed
act. What they're doing is updating the laws to
make them properly-effective in dealing with the
incitement of hate, comitting sexual harassment,
and posting child pornography on social media.
The end result IS censorship. Odd that you would deny this.
Inciting genocide is already illegal in Canada,
and the changes are extending the punishment to a
"maximum" sentence of life in prison from the
current maximum of 5 years.
Are you offended that people who incite genocide
could be convicted and put in prison? Does it
Misgendering someone in Canada is now a crime. How much do you trust
the politicians to not redefine "incite genocide"? I have little
confidence that they won't do this.
I suggest you start reading something other than Newsmax:
'Fact check: No, new Canadian bill won't allow prosecution of those who >misgender others'
<https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2023/04/17/fact-check-post-misrepresents-new-canadian-lgbtq-bill/11648841002/>
'Contrary to the tweet's claim, the bill doesn't prohibit misgendering
or criticizing members of the LGBTQ community, nor does it mention >prosecution. Instead, it allows the attorney general to designate
"2SLGBTQI+ community safety zones."
The bill allows for a fine of up to $25,000 for those that "perform an
act of intimidation" within 100 meters of the safety zones.
On 2024-03-02 08:07, NoBody wrote:
On Sat, 2 Mar 2024 03:48:15 -0800, Randolf Richardson ???
<randolf@canadianatheists.ca> wrote:
On Fri, 1 Mar 2024 23:01:26 -0500
Here is the News <news@here.anon> wrote:
https://dailystormer.in/canada-trudeaus-government-wants-more-censorship-life-in-prison-for-inciting-genocide/
Canada: Trudeau's Government Wants More Censorship, Life in Prison for >>>> "Inciting Genocide"
Censorship? No, that's a misread of the proposed
act. What they're doing is updating the laws to
make them properly-effective in dealing with the
incitement of hate, comitting sexual harassment,
and posting child pornography on social media.
The end result IS censorship. Odd that you would deny this.
Inciting genocide is already illegal in Canada,
and the changes are extending the punishment to a
"maximum" sentence of life in prison from the
current maximum of 5 years.
Are you offended that people who incite genocide
could be convicted and put in prison? Does it
Misgendering someone in Canada is now a crime. How much do you trust
the politicians to not redefine "incite genocide"? I have little
confidence that they won't do this.
I suggest you start reading something other than Newsmax:
'Fact check: No, new Canadian bill won't allow prosecution of those who misgender others'
<https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2023/04/17/fact-check-post-misrepresents-new-canadian-lgbtq-bill/11648841002/>
'Contrary to the tweet's claim, the bill doesn't prohibit misgendering or criticizing members of the LGBTQ community, nor does it mention prosecution. Instead, it allows the attorney general to designate "2SLGBTQI+ community safety
zones."
The bill allows for a fine of up to $25,000 for those that "perform an act of intimidation" within 100 meters of the safety zones.
"Acts of intimidation" are defined by the bill as creating a criminal disturbance, distributing hate propaganda, uttering threats on the basis of social orientation or gender roles, or engaging in homophobic or transphobic protests or demonstrations.'
On Sun, 3 Mar 2024 09:23:34 +0000, "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1>
wrote:
On Sat, 2 Mar 2024 09:12:52 -0800
Randolf Richardson ??? <randolf@canadianatheists.ca> wrote:
On Sat, 02 Mar 2024 11:07:30 -0500
NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Sat, 2 Mar 2024 03:48:15 -0800, Randolf Richardson ???
<randolf@canadianatheists.ca> wrote:
On Fri, 1 Mar 2024 23:01:26 -0500
Here is the News <news@here.anon> wrote:
https://dailystormer.in
[]
Already a bad sgin.
[]Canada: Trudeau's Government Wants More Censorship, Life in Prison for >>> > >> "Inciting Genocide"
Misgendering people in Canada isn't a crime. What is
a crime is harassing people, and the various forms of
harassment include intentionally misgendering someone
as part of that harassment effort. (If you actually
read the relevant Canadian laws you would know this.)
It's a tough job correcting people who spread misinformation (aka lies) on >>the internet; but someone has to do it.
xkcd386
Yup, a Canadian court ruling that you must call a woman a man isn't a
law. It matters not what the wording of a law is if a court
interprets to mean something else. The Court decides what the law
actually means.
How does your brain resolve this obvious inconsistancy?
On Sat, 2 Mar 2024 08:41:00 -0800, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2024-03-02 08:07, NoBody wrote:
On Sat, 2 Mar 2024 03:48:15 -0800, Randolf Richardson ???
<randolf@canadianatheists.ca> wrote:
On Fri, 1 Mar 2024 23:01:26 -0500
Here is the News <news@here.anon> wrote:
https://dailystormer.in/canada-trudeaus-government-wants-more-censorship-life-in-prison-for-inciting-genocide/
Canada: Trudeau's Government Wants More Censorship, Life in Prison for >>>>> "Inciting Genocide"
Censorship? No, that's a misread of the proposed
act. What they're doing is updating the laws to
make them properly-effective in dealing with the
incitement of hate, comitting sexual harassment,
and posting child pornography on social media.
The end result IS censorship. Odd that you would deny this.
Inciting genocide is already illegal in Canada,
and the changes are extending the punishment to a
"maximum" sentence of life in prison from the
current maximum of 5 years.
Are you offended that people who incite genocide
could be convicted and put in prison? Does it
Misgendering someone in Canada is now a crime. How much do you trust
the politicians to not redefine "incite genocide"? I have little
confidence that they won't do this.
I suggest you start reading something other than Newsmax:
'Fact check: No, new Canadian bill won't allow prosecution of those who
misgender others'
<https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2023/04/17/fact-check-post-misrepresents-new-canadian-lgbtq-bill/11648841002/>
'Contrary to the tweet's claim, the bill doesn't prohibit misgendering
or criticizing members of the LGBTQ community, nor does it mention
prosecution. Instead, it allows the attorney general to designate
"2SLGBTQI+ community safety zones."
The bill allows for a fine of up to $25,000 for those that "perform an
act of intimidation" within 100 meters of the safety zones.
Which means....
Wait for it....
It's a crime...
Duh.
Alan wrote:
On 2024-03-02 08:07, NoBody wrote:
On Sat, 2 Mar 2024 03:48:15 -0800, Randolf Richardson ???
<randolf@canadianatheists.ca> wrote:
On Fri, 1 Mar 2024 23:01:26 -0500
Here is the News <news@here.anon> wrote:
https://dailystormer.in/canada-trudeaus-government-wants-more-censorship-life-in-prison-for-inciting-genocide/
Canada: Trudeau's Government Wants More Censorship, Life in Prison for >>>>> "Inciting Genocide"
Censorship? No, that's a misread of the proposed
act. What they're doing is updating the laws to
make them properly-effective in dealing with the
incitement of hate, comitting sexual harassment,
and posting child pornography on social media.
The end result IS censorship. Odd that you would deny this.
Inciting genocide is already illegal in Canada,
and the changes are extending the punishment to a
"maximum" sentence of life in prison from the
current maximum of 5 years.
Are you offended that people who incite genocide
could be convicted and put in prison? Does it
Misgendering someone in Canada is now a crime. How much do you trust
the politicians to not redefine "incite genocide"? I have little
confidence that they won't do this.
I suggest you start reading something other than Newsmax:
'Fact check: No, new Canadian bill won't allow prosecution of those
who misgender others'
<https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2023/04/17/fact-check-post-misrepresents-new-canadian-lgbtq-bill/11648841002/>
'Contrary to the tweet's claim, the bill doesn't prohibit misgendering
or criticizing members of the LGBTQ community, nor does it mention
prosecution. Instead, it allows the attorney general to designate
"2SLGBTQI+ community safety zones."
The bill allows for a fine of up to $25,000 for those that "perform an
act of intimidation" within 100 meters of the safety zones.
"Acts of intimidation" are defined by the bill as creating a criminal
disturbance, distributing hate propaganda, uttering threats on the
basis of social orientation or gender roles, or engaging in homophobic
or transphobic protests or demonstrations.'
Talmudic word games are lies. Are you a Jew?
On Sat, 2 Mar 2024 09:12:52 -0800
Randolf Richardson 張文道 <randolf@canadianatheists.ca> wrote:
On Sat, 02 Mar 2024 11:07:30 -0500
NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Sat, 2 Mar 2024 03:48:15 -0800, Randolf Richardson ??? <randolf@canadianatheists.ca> wrote:
On Fri, 1 Mar 2024 23:01:26 -0500
Here is the News <news@here.anon> wrote:
https://dailystormer.in
[]
Already a bad sgin.
[]Canada: Trudeau's Government Wants More Censorship, Life in Prison for >> "Inciting Genocide"
Misgendering people in Canada isn't a crime. What is
a crime is harassing people, and the various forms of
harassment include intentionally misgendering someone
as part of that harassment effort. (If you actually
read the relevant Canadian laws you would know this.)
It's a tough job correcting people who spread misinformation (aka lies) on the internet; but someone has to do it.
xkcd386
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