No such thing as 'long COVID,' health agency says in shocking claim: 'Unnecessary fear'

Follow the science -- right out the door.

The term "long COVID" should be tossed aside like a stack of expired
N95 masks -- that's according to health experts in one country, who
found that symptoms of those reportedly suffering a year on weren't
any different than your typical virus, such as the flu.

Government-backed medical researchers in Australia say it's time to
stop using the fear-inducing phrase, which became popular after high
volumes of people testing positive for COVID-19 led to a surge in
generally non-severe "virus fatigue symptoms" that would normally have
gone unnoticed, South West News Service reported.


https://nypost.com/2024/03/14/lifestyle/no-such-thing-as-long-covid-health-agency-says-in-shock-claim-unnecessary-fear/

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On Sat, 16 Mar 2024, JAB wrote:

No such thing as 'long COVID,' health agency says in shocking claim: 'Unnecessary fear'

Follow the science -- right out the door.

The term "long COVID" should be tossed aside like a stack of expired
N95 masks -- that's according to health experts in one country, who
found that symptoms of those reportedly suffering a year on weren't
any different than your typical virus, such as the flu.

Government-backed medical researchers in Australia say it's time to
stop using the fear-inducing phrase, which became popular after high
volumes of people testing positive for COVID-19 led to a surge in
generally non-severe "virus fatigue symptoms" that would normally have
gone unnoticed, South West News Service reported.

https://nypost.com/2024/03/14/lifestyle/no-such-thing-as-long-covid-health-agency-says-in-shock-claim-unnecessary-fear/

Gotta love it! And sweden still exists despite no masks during corona. I remember the days... I was the only one travelling without a mask and
there were two groups of people. One group threatening me screaming after
me and harassing me, and then the other group, quietly asking me what my
secret was and how they could fight the ridiculous mask rules.

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On Sat, 16 Mar 2024 16:13:34 -0400, Auric Hellman
<adhellman1@gmail.com> wrote:

years down the road

Science may have a better understanding on how Covid-19's viruses
affects humans in time.

I believe the researchers in Australia are without scientific
underpinnings.
============

Medical "science" has not always got it right

Remember "Chronic lyme disease" which is now "post-treatment lyme
disease syndrome"?


From a 1988 article about AIDS:

"Doctors don't want to treat AIDS patients because it is disheartening
work [and] many physicians are ill-informed about [AIDS] and therefore
fail to diagnose it when aggressive treatment would make the most
difference." https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1988-07-27-vw-6465-story.html

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On Sat, 16 Mar 2024 21:52:02 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

ridiculous mask rules.

Some 3 million deceased humans may disagree.

https://www.who.int/data/stories/the-true-death-toll-of-covid-19-estimating-global-excess-mortality

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On Sat, 16 Mar 2024, JAB wrote:

On Sat, 16 Mar 2024 21:52:02 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

ridiculous mask rules.

Some 3 million deceased humans may disagree.

https://www.who.int/data/stories/the-true-death-toll-of-covid-19-estimating-global-excess-mortality

You're using WHO? Come on, that would be like asking Donald Trump about
Donald Trump! ;)

The WHO are the undisputed masters of health-cronyism. They have nothing
to do with health and is just part of a power grab trying to dismantle democracy.

Might I instead offer you this:

https://www.europaportalen.se/2023/03/sverige-hade-lagsta-overdodligheten-under-coronapandemin-i-eu

Sweden has the lowest excess mortality in all of the EU without masks.

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On Sun, 17 Mar 2024 15:38:04 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

Sweden has the lowest excess mortality in all of the EU without masks.

"Blunt measure"

SvD writes that excess mortality - i.e. how many more people die in a
given period compared to another - is "a relatively blunt measure".
This is because it does not take into account how the age distribution
in different countries looks or whether the population increases or
decreases over time.
=========================================

Also, genetic traits can affect an outcome, along with prior exposures
to this/that virus/etc.

For instance

If 95 per cent of the Aztecs were killed by European diseases, why
weren't Europeans killed by Aztec diseases?

Due to their more hygienic living conditions, the Aztecs may have
carried less diseases than Europeans to begin with.

https://www.sciencefocus.com/science/if-95-per-cent-of-the-aztecs-were-killed-by-european-diseases-why-werent-europeans-killed-by-aztec-diseases

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On Sun, 17 Mar 2024, JAB wrote:

On Sun, 17 Mar 2024 15:38:04 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

Sweden has the lowest excess mortality in all of the EU without masks.

"Blunt measure"

SvD writes that excess mortality - i.e. how many more people die in a
given period compared to another - is "a relatively blunt measure".
This is because it does not take into account how the age distribution
in different countries looks or whether the population increases or
decreases over time.
=========================================

Also, genetic traits can affect an outcome, along with prior exposures
to this/that virus/etc.

For instance

If 95 per cent of the Aztecs were killed by European diseases, why
weren't Europeans killed by Aztec diseases?

Due to their more hygienic living conditions, the Aztecs may have
carried less diseases than Europeans to begin with.

https://www.sciencefocus.com/science/if-95-per-cent-of-the-aztecs-were-killed-by-european-diseases-why-werent-europeans-killed-by-aztec-diseases

Haha "blunt measure". Excess mortality was _the goldstandard_ during all
of corona and only when sweden turned out to be the best at handling it by
not doing anything at all, started people critiziing it. I cannot imagine
a better admission that sweden was right than that. :D

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On Sun, 17 Mar 2024 18:40:21 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

a better admission that sweden was right than that.

The Swedish COVID-19 approach: a scientific dialogue on mitigation
policies

During the COVID-19 pandemic, Sweden was among the few countries that
did not enforce strict lockdown measures but instead relied more on
voluntary and sustainable mitigation recommendations.
...
...
Instead, the country relied on its citizens' voluntary behavioral
changes, considering them to be more sustainable. This approach
involved enforcing physical distancing, encouraging working from home,
limiting social gatherings and travel, prohibiting most public events,
and so on. Initially, masks were mandatory only in healthcare and
older adult care settings, but later they were also recommended for
crowded public transport. Kindergartens, primary schools, and
secondary schools remained open throughout the pandemic, which was a
unique policy. A large majority (>90%) of the Swedish population
approved, endorsed, and complied with the Swedish policies, according
to repeated public polls conducted during the pandemic by the Swedish
Civil Contingencies Agency (1).

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10399217/

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On Sun, 17 Mar 2024, JAB wrote:

On Sun, 17 Mar 2024 18:40:21 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

a better admission that sweden was right than that.

The Swedish COVID-19 approach: a scientific dialogue on mitigation
policies

During the COVID-19 pandemic, Sweden was among the few countries that
did not enforce strict lockdown measures but instead relied more on
voluntary and sustainable mitigation recommendations.
...
...
Instead, the country relied on its citizens' voluntary behavioral
changes, considering them to be more sustainable. This approach
involved enforcing physical distancing, encouraging working from home, limiting social gatherings and travel, prohibiting most public events,
and so on. Initially, masks were mandatory only in healthcare and
older adult care settings, but later they were also recommended for
crowded public transport. Kindergartens, primary schools, and
secondary schools remained open throughout the pandemic, which was a
unique policy. A large majority (>90%) of the Swedish population
approved, endorsed, and complied with the Swedish policies, according
to repeated public polls conducted during the pandemic by the Swedish
Civil Contingencies Agency (1).

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10399217/

You are using nih.gov for information about how sweden handled it, when a
swede is telling you? Let me tell you how it was.


There was no enforced physical distancing, only recommendations, and
that's it. Working from home I assume, but didn't delve into, since I've
been working from home 100% for many years. Travel was not limited at all. Social gatherings were limited later on, but completely random. Some was allowed others not, so in the end people just said f*ck it and did what
they wanted, and of course, there was no law to prohibit people from
meeting. Masks were never mandatory, except when flying unless you knew
the loop holes.

When it comes to public polls, of course the citizens say what they think
the people want to hear. Based on from where I was, I'd say it was 50/50 probably and less the longer it lasted.

But hey, why trust the guy who was there, when you can read on nih.gov. ;)

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On Sun, 17 Mar 2024 23:23:16 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

You are using nih.gov for information

Notice who were the authors of this study, all live in Sweden:

Anders Björkman, Magnus Gisslén, Martin Gullberg, and Johnny
Ludvigsson

Here's the second author listed above


Magnus Gisslén new Chief Epidemiologist at Public Health Agency
Published
30 May 2023 https://www.gu.se/en/news/magnus-gisslen-new-chief-epidemiologist-at-public-health-agency

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On Sun, 17 Mar 2024, JAB wrote:

On Sun, 17 Mar 2024 23:23:16 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

You are using nih.gov for information

Notice who were the authors of this study, all live in Sweden:

Anders Björkman, Magnus Gisslén, Martin Gullberg, and Johnny
Ludvigsson

Here's the second author listed above

Magnus Gisslén new Chief Epidemiologist at Public Health Agency
Published
30 May 2023 https://www.gu.se/en/news/magnus-gisslen-new-chief-epidemiologist-at-public-health-agency

The _key name_ you should be looking for is Anders Tegnell. He is the
genius that against all opposition and pressure from politicians refused
to close down sweden.

Oh, I do notice that he's from GU and that's just a bunch of socialists,
so you don't have to pay attention to them. What you should looking for is ki.se. That's the gold standard even though they were also super paranoid
as well.

One key to living a normal life during corona was to find a good rational doctor which I was lucky enough to find! =) She would write me all papers
and permits required which was great!

I have a friend from italy and there they discovered a doctor in Croatia
who would give them all the paperwork they needed, so there were freedom fighters fighting back the authoritarianism which was very positive! =)

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