On 2024-03-27, JAB <here@is.invalid> wrote:

Laura Bassett @LEBassett

Three white dudes posting a photo of themselves banning diversity
statements is 2024 in a nutshell

I'm proud to sign this bill and ensure Idahoans are hired or accepted
into college based on merit and hard work.

Let's hear it for merit and hard work!

I'm in favor of diversity, but not in favor of being diverse as a
substitute for actually being qualified. Be qualified too, and probably
first.

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On 27 Mar 2024 01:50:51 GMT, Retrograde <fungus@amongus.com.invalid>
wrote:

I'm in favor of diversity

I've not followed this topic, but when someone says ".. ensure
Idahoans are hired or accepted into college based on merit and hard
work," it may reflect a 'crakers' point of view.


A Brief History of Affirmative Action

"Johnson issued Executive Order 11246, prohibiting employment
discrimination based on race, color, religion, and national origin by
those organizations receiving federal contracts and subcontracts. In
1967, President Johnson amended the order to include sex on the list
of attributes."

https://www.oeod.uci.edu/policies/aa_history.php

In 2008, former President Bill Clinton used the term "cracker" on
Larry King Live to describe white voters he was attempting to win over
for Barack Obama:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cracker_(term)>

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Laura Bassett @LEBassett

Three white dudes posting a photo of themselves banning diversity
statements is 2024 in a nutshell



Brad Little @GovernorLittle

It's official - Idaho has banned "diversity statements" ACROSS STATE GOVERNMENT!

I'm proud to sign this bill and ensure Idahoans are hired or accepted
into college based on merit and hard work.

https://twitter.com/LEBassett/status/1772465129021485150

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On 27 Mar 2024 01:50:51 GMT, Retrograde <fungus@amongus.com.invalid>
wrote:

for actually being qualified

A relative evaluation....qualified in terms of will a person graduate
from an institution is being qualified objectively. Allowing only
students with a previous track record of receiving A grades is
discrimination. Qualification should never be based upon allowing the
cream of the crop students, but rather if they will graduate.

diversity

Where a range of different scholastic abilities are allowed.

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On Tue, 26 Mar 2024, JAB wrote:

Laura Bassett @LEBassett

Three white dudes posting a photo of themselves banning diversity
statements is 2024 in a nutshell

Brad Little @GovernorLittle

It's official - Idaho has banned "diversity statements" ACROSS STATE GOVERNMENT!

I'm proud to sign this bill and ensure Idahoans are hired or accepted
into college based on merit and hard work.

https://twitter.com/LEBassett/status/1772465129021485150

Amazing! They just created a little bit of heaven on earth! =)

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On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 11:12:47 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

I'm proud to sign this bill and ensure Idahoans are hired or accepted
into college based on merit and hard work.

https://twitter.com/LEBassett/status/1772465129021485150

Amazing! They just created a little bit of heaven on earth! =)

Not really...let's say a person wants to take a few courses at
university, but is not "qualified"

Keep in mind taxpayers in US are paying for publicly funded schools.

Universities should not become a cream of the crop social club, when
paid for by tax payers.

merit and hard work.

Idealist rhetoric....when in reality, there is cheating happening,
before and during university days.

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On 27 Mar 2024 01:50:51 GMT, Retrograde <fungus@amongus.com.invalid>
wrote:

I'm in favor of diversity

Keep in mind this is an election year, and Rs need something to
appease their suckers/losers.

Biologically speaking, all humans are not developmentally the same,
and all humans are not raised in similar environments.

I suspect statistically, those raised in white collar families do
better than those in blue collar families.

Also, "Head Start is a program of the United States Department of
Health and Human Services that provides comprehensive early childhood education, health, nutrition, and parent involvement services to
low-income children and families. It is the oldest and largest program
of its kind"
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Head_Start_(program)>

As noted to "D", are publicly funded universities/colleges only for
the cream of the crop students when all taxpayers are footing the infrastructure bill? If this is an exclusive club, then the cream's
parents should be paying for this, not the other tax payers.

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merit and hard work.

Idealist rhetoric....when in reality, there is cheating happening,
before and during university days.

1. Become a business owner.
2. Hire staff to fill a business need. Allow anyone of any persuasion to
apply for the job and be given an equal chance of getting the job.
3. Hire the person most qualified to do the job well.

Done.

Doing anything other than the above compromises the outcome.

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On 27 Mar 2024 13:04:59 GMT, Retrograde <fungus@amongus.com.invalid>
wrote:

3. Hire the person most qualified to do the job well.

Ever noticed the front office 'secretary' tends to be good looking?

When a CEO was hired at a hospital years ago, he brought in his
university friends and placed them in key positions.

Doing anything other than the above compromises the outcome.

See above...I could cite other examples where favoritism is afoot.

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On 27 Mar 2024 13:04:59 GMT, Retrograde <fungus@amongus.com.invalid>
wrote:

Doing anything other than the above compromises the outcome.

Each CEO has specific skills....there's the rub.





Boeing's new CEO must be 'strong engineering lead', Emirates boss says

The US plane maker needs a governance model that prioritises safety
and quality
...
...
As the board starts the search for his successor, its next chief
executive must possess a strong background in aerospace engineering,
overhaul the corporate culture and ensure a long-term track record of
high quality production, industry analysts said.

https://www.thenationalnews.com/business/aviation/2024/03/26/boeings-new-ceo-must-be-strong-engineering-lead-emirates-boss-says/

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On Wed, 27 Mar 2024, JAB wrote:

On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 11:12:47 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

I'm proud to sign this bill and ensure Idahoans are hired or accepted
into college based on merit and hard work.

https://twitter.com/LEBassett/status/1772465129021485150

Amazing! They just created a little bit of heaven on earth! =)

Not really...let's say a person wants to take a few courses at
university, but is not "qualified"

If the person is not qualified, the person should not attend. Simple as
that. Everything else is a great way to waste tax money.

Keep in mind taxpayers in US are paying for publicly funded schools.

Universities should not become a cream of the crop social club, when
paid for by tax payers.

merit and hard work.

Idealist rhetoric....when in reality, there is cheating happening,
before and during university days.

The fact that cheating occurs is not a reason to just give up and drop
every standard.

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On Wed, 27 Mar 2024, JAB wrote:

On 27 Mar 2024 13:04:59 GMT, Retrograde <fungus@amongus.com.invalid>
wrote:

3. Hire the person most qualified to do the job well.

Ever noticed the front office 'secretary' tends to be good looking?

That would be part of my job description. My front office secretary should welcome my visitors and customers and it is pleasant to have a beautiful
woman do that in my line of business with 99% men. So a beautiful woman
would have a huge plus in my book.

Of course there are other skills and attributes as well, but looking good
is one attribute I want.

When a CEO was hired at a hospital years ago, he brought in his
university friends and placed them in key positions.

Doing anything other than the above compromises the outcome.

See above...I could cite other examples where favoritism is afoot.

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On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 15:02:37 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

Not really...let's say a person wants to take a few courses at
university, but is not "qualified"

If the person is not qualified, the person should not attend. Simple as
that. Everything else is a great way to waste tax money.

Qualification "standards" are not standardized/uniformed, btw.

The old "When in Rome" standards....

Taxpayers are supporting the public good, not the cream of the crop
social club.

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JAB wrote:

On 27 Mar 2024 13:04:59 GMT, Retrograde
<fungus@amongus.com.invalid> wrote:

3. Hire the person most qualified to do the job well.

Ever noticed the front office 'secretary' tends to be good
looking?

I'd expect nothing else... I wouldn't want an ugly old hag being
the first person people walking in to my business see.

Also a bit of eye candy around the place might help make the day
go faster.

When a CEO was hired at a hospital years ago, he brought in his
university friends and placed them in key positions.

Not in the brain surgery Dept I hope?!

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On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 17:42:55 +0100, "Blueshirt"
<blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

Also a bit of eye candy around the place might help make the day
go faster.

Marie Devereux from "The Brides of Dracula" (1960) https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FgcWLGfWIAA8ond.jpg

Presenting Miss Janet Pilgrim- who truly "rocks" https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F0ZLJPwWwAItTXc.jpg

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JAB wrote:

On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 17:42:55 +0100, "Blueshirt"
<blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

Also a bit of eye candy around the place might help make the
day go faster.

Marie Devereux from "The Brides of Dracula" (1960) https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FgcWLGfWIAA8ond.jpg

Presenting Miss Janet Pilgrim- who truly "rocks" https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F0ZLJPwWwAItTXc.jpg

Yes, they'd get the job! ;-)

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On Wed, 27 Mar 2024, JAB wrote:

On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 17:42:55 +0100, "Blueshirt"
<blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

Also a bit of eye candy around the place might help make the day
go faster.

Marie Devereux from "The Brides of Dracula" (1960) https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FgcWLGfWIAA8ond.jpg

Presenting Miss Janet Pilgrim- who truly "rocks" https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F0ZLJPwWwAItTXc.jpg

I'm more into athletic women. ;)

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On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 17:53:30 +0100, "Blueshirt"
<blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

Presenting Miss Janet Pilgrim- who truly "rocks"
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F0ZLJPwWwAItTXc.jpg

Yes, they'd get the job! ;-)

Janet Pilgrim (born Charlaine Edith Karalus; June 13, 1934 - May 1,
2017) was an American model who became a Playmate of the Month while
employed at Playboy's corporate office. She was chosen as Playmate of
the Month three times: July 1955, December 1955 and October 1956.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janet_Pilgrim_(model)>

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On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 17:53:30 +0100, "Blueshirt"
<blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

Yes, they'd get the job! ;-)

Adjusting the baggage https://twitter.com/Fun_Viral_Vids/status/1772989560722510287

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