• Good Friday

    From Christian Nationalist Bible Study@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 29 18:41:00 2024
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    Good Friday
    March 29th, 2024

    https://blog.reaction.la/faith/good-friday/

    Why is today Good? Because we remember the forgiveness of sins.

    You already know today's story and how its ends, but briefly recapping the story so far: Jesus has been betrayed, arrested, and beaten, and Peter chickened out at the last minute -- which foreshadows some important things much later in the gospels, but that is not part of the Easter story.

    Luke 22:

    63. And the men that held Jesus mocked him, and smote him.

    64. And when they had blindfolded him, they struck him on the face, and asked him, saying, Prophesy, who is it that smote thee?

    65. And many other things blasphemously spake they against him.

    66. And as soon as it was day, the elders of the people and the chief priests and the scribes came together, and led him into their council, saying,

    67. Art thou the Christ? tell us. And he said unto them, If I tell you, ye will not believe:

    68. And if I also ask you, ye will not answer me, nor let me go.

    69. Hereafter shall the Son of man sit on the right hand of the power of God.

    70. Then said they all, Art thou then the Son of God? And he said unto
    them, Ye say that I am.

    71. And they said, What need we any further witness? for we ourselves have heard of his own mouth.

    Luke 23:

    1. And the whole multitude of them arose, and led him unto Pilate.

    2. And they began to accuse him, saying, We found this fellow perverting
    the nation, and forbidding to give tribute to Caesar, saying that he
    himself is Christ a King.

    3. And Pilate asked him, saying, Art thou the King of the Jews? And he answered him and said, Thou sayest it.

    4. Then said Pilate to the chief priests and to the people, I find no
    fault in this man.

    5. And they were the more fierce, saying, He stirreth up the people, teaching throughout all Jewry, beginning from Galilee to this place.

    6. When Pilate heard of Galilee, he asked whether the man were a
    Galilaean.

    7. And as soon as he knew that he belonged unto Herod's jurisdiction, he sent him to Herod, who himself also was at Jerusalem at that time.

    8. And when Herod saw Jesus, he was exceeding glad: for he was desirous to see him of a long season, because he had heard many things of him; and he hoped to have seen some miracle done by him.

    9. Then he questioned with him in many words; but he answered him nothing.

    10. And the chief priests and scribes stood and vehemently accused him.

    I will interject a little background here. Israel suffered from divided sovereignty, which not long after these events became considerably more divided.

    Herod theoretically ruled as King, but he was a clearly illegitimate King
    and dependent on Roman soldiers, not his own. The hereditary priesthood, the Sadducees, theoretically ruled, and had legitimacy, but lacked capability.
    The pharisees, open entry priests, roughly equivalent to lawyers and legacy newsmen today in the political sense, and to today's Orthodox Rabbis in the religious sense, were pushing on the hereditary priesthood's turf, and
    getting away with a fair bit of actual rule, which rule Jesus complains
    about in the previous Easter posts. The Romans had the swords, and actually ruled, but were, like today's Global American Empire, reluctant to admit to ruling and tried to rule through proxies, but their proxies were weak and quarrelsome. The Pharisees had a mob, the Romans an army. Herod not much of
    an army, the hereditary priesthood even less. Any power Herod had, the
    Romans gave it to him to keep their hands off events, and when those events might cause trouble for Herod, he dumped them back on the Romans. The
    Sadducees were sane and not particularly evil, unlike the Pharisees, but
    they did not really believe their faith, so no one else believed it either, analogous to today's Anglican Church. Which left them with considerably less power that their legitimacy supposedly provided them, hence the frequent
    chaos in Jerusalem that the Romans and Herod found difficult. And, like the Pharisees, they did not want any religious competition.

    Because Jerusalem was a problem that Herod was unable to handle, the Romans were openly and directly ruling Jerusalem, but they did not want to. Since
    the Romans had the actual rule, in this sense it was not the Jews that
    killed Christ but Italians that killed Christ, but the Romans had no
    interest in Jewish religious disputes, and viewed the heresy and blasphemy charges against Jesus Christ as silly and incomprehensible. They were trying
    to accommodate the demands of their proxies. It was the proxies (Pharisees,
    the religious faction in Israel that survived as today's Jews) that demanded the crucifixion. The Romans thought that this was all just more incomprehensible Jewish trouble, of which they had had plenty, and in the coming years would have plenty more.

    Luke 23:

    11. And Herod with his men of war set him at nought, and mocked him, and arrayed him in a gorgeous robe, and sent him again to Pilate.

    12. And the same day Pilate and Herod were made friends together: for
    before they were at enmity between themselves.

    13. And Pilate, when he had called together the chief priests and the
    rulers and the people,

    14. Said unto them, Ye have brought this man unto me, as one that
    perverteth the people: and, behold, I, having examined him before you,
    have found no fault in this man touching those things whereof ye accuse
    him:

    15. No, nor yet Herod: for I sent you to him; and, lo, nothing worthy of death is done unto him.

    16. I will therefore chastise him, and release him.

    17. (For of necessity he must release one unto them at the feast.)

    18. And they cried out all at once, saying, Away with this man, and
    release unto us Barabbas:

    19. (Who for a certain sedition made in the city, and for murder, was cast into prison.)

    20. Pilate therefore, willing to release Jesus, spake again to them.

    21. But they cried, saying, Crucify him, crucify him.

    22. And he said unto them the third time, Why, what evil hath he done? I have found no cause of death in him: I will therefore chastise him, and
    let him go.

    23. And they were instant with loud voices, requiring that he might be crucified. And the voices of them and of the chief priests prevailed.

    24. And Pilate gave sentence that it should be as they required.

    25. And he released unto them him that for sedition and murder was cast
    into prison, whom they had desired; but he delivered Jesus to their will.

    26. And as they led him away, they laid hold upon one Simon, a Cyrenian, coming out of the country, and on him they laid the cross, that he might bear it after Jesus.

    27. And there followed him a great company of people, and of women, which also bewailed and lamented him.

    28. But Jesus turning unto them said, Daughters of Jerusalem, weep not for me, but weep for yourselves, and for your children.

    29. For, behold, the days are coming, in the which they shall say, Blessed are the barren, and the wombs that never bare, and the paps which never
    gave suck.

    30. Then shall they begin to say to the mountains, Fall on us; and to the hills, Cover us.

    31. For if they do these things in a green tree, what shall be done in the dry?

    Recall in the Palm Sunday post Jesus weeping for Jerusalem as he drew nigh.
    For their collective sins, the Jews were going to suffer collective
    punishment. Also recall the fig tree in the Maundy Thursday post that was green, nut without fruit, and soon was withered.

    32. And there were also two other, malefactors, led with him to be put to death.

    33. And when they were come to the place, which is called Calvary, there they crucified him, and the malefactors, one on the right hand, and the other on the left.

    34. Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots.

    35. And the people stood beholding. And the rulers also with them derided him, saying, He saved others; let him save himself, if he be Christ, the chosen of God.

    36. And the soldiers also mocked him, coming to him, and offering him vinegar,

    37. And saying, If thou be the king of the Jews, save thyself.

    38. And a superscription also was written over him in letters of Greek,
    and Latin, and Hebrew, THIS IS THE KING OF THE JEWS.

    39. And one of the malefactors which were hanged railed on him, saying, If thou be Christ, save thyself and us.

    40. But the other answering rebuked him, saying, Dost not thou fear God, seeing thou art in the same condemnation?

    41. And we indeed justly; for we receive the due reward of our deeds: but this man hath done nothing amiss.

    42. And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom.

    43. And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise.

    And this is the good news that makes this Good Friday.

    Jesus was crucified between two thieves; One was hardened to the last, one repented of his sins. The one that repented and accepted Christ stands for
    us.

    44. And it was about the sixth hour, and there was a darkness over all the earth until the ninth hour.

    45. And the sun was darkened, and the veil of the temple was rent in the midst.

    46. And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost.

    47. Now when the centurion saw what was done, he glorified God, saying, Certainly this was a righteous man.

    48. And all the people that came together to that sight, beholding the things which were done, smote their breasts, and returned.

    49. And all his acquaintance, and the women that followed him from
    Galilee, stood afar off, beholding these things.

    50. And, behold, there was a man named Joseph, a counsellor; and he was a good man, and a just:

    51. (The same had not consented to the counsel and deed of them;) he was
    of Arimathaea, a city of the Jews: who also himself waited for the kingdom of God.

    52. This man went unto Pilate, and begged the body of Jesus.

    53. And he took it down, and wrapped it in linen, and laid it in a
    sepulchre that was hewn in stone, wherein never man before was laid.

    54. And that day was the preparation, and the sabbath drew on.

    55. And the women also, which came with him from Galilee, followed after, and beheld the sepulchre, and how his body was laid.

    56. And they returned, and prepared spices and ointments; and rested the sabbath day according to the commandment.

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  • From Michael Christ@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 30 10:48:56 2024
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    On 30/03/2024 10:22 am, % wrote:
    Christian Nationalist Bible Study wrote:
    Good Friday
    March 29th, 2024

    https://blog.reaction.la/faith/good-friday/

    Why is today Good? Because we remember the forgiveness of sins.

    You already know today's story and how its ends, but briefly recapping
    the
    story so far: Jesus has been betrayed, arrested, and beaten, and Peter
    chickened out at the last minute -- which foreshadows some important
    things
    much later in the gospels, but that is not part of the Easter story.

    Luke 22:

    63. And the men that held Jesus mocked him, and smote him.
    ;
    64. And when they had blindfolded him, they struck him on the face,
    and
    asked him, saying, Prophesy, who is it that smote thee?
    ;
    65. And many other things blasphemously spake they against him.
    ;
    66. And as soon as it was day, the elders of the people and the chief
    priests and the scribes came together, and led him into their council, >>  > saying,
    ;
    67. Art thou the Christ? tell us. And he said unto them, If I tell
    you, ye
    will not believe:
    ;
    68. And if I also ask you, ye will not answer me, nor let me go.
    ;
    69. Hereafter shall the Son of man sit on the right hand of the
    power of
    God.
    ;
    70. Then said they all, Art thou then the Son of God? And he said unto >>  > them, Ye say that I am.
    ;
    71. And they said, What need we any further witness? for we
    ourselves have
    heard of his own mouth.

    Luke 23:

    1. And the whole multitude of them arose, and led him unto Pilate.
    ;
    2. And they began to accuse him, saying, We found this fellow
    perverting
    the nation, and forbidding to give tribute to Caesar, saying that he
    himself is Christ a King.
    ;
    3. And Pilate asked him, saying, Art thou the King of the Jews? And he >>  > answered him and said, Thou sayest it.
    ;
    4. Then said Pilate to the chief priests and to the people, I find no
    fault in this man.
    ;
    5. And they were the more fierce, saying, He stirreth up the people,
    teaching throughout all Jewry, beginning from Galilee to this place.
    ;
    6. When Pilate heard of Galilee, he asked whether the man were a
    Galilaean.
    ;
    7. And as soon as he knew that he belonged unto Herod's
    jurisdiction, he
    sent him to Herod, who himself also was at Jerusalem at that time.
    ;
    8. And when Herod saw Jesus, he was exceeding glad: for he was
    desirous to
    see him of a long season, because he had heard many things of him;
    and he
    hoped to have seen some miracle done by him.
    ;
    9. Then he questioned with him in many words; but he answered him
    nothing.
    ;
    10. And the chief priests and scribes stood and vehemently accused
    him.

    I will interject a little background here. Israel suffered from divided
    sovereignty, which not long after these events became considerably more
    divided.

    Herod theoretically ruled as King, but he was a clearly illegitimate King
    and dependent on Roman soldiers, not his own. The hereditary
    priesthood, the
    Sadducees, theoretically ruled, and had legitimacy, but lacked
    capability.
    The pharisees, open entry priests, roughly equivalent to lawyers and
    legacy
    newsmen today in the political sense, and to today's Orthodox Rabbis
    in the
    religious sense, were pushing on the hereditary priesthood's turf, and
    getting away with a fair bit of actual rule, which rule Jesus complains
    about in the previous Easter posts. The Romans had the swords, and
    actually
    ruled, but were, like today's Global American Empire, reluctant to
    admit to
    ruling and tried to rule through proxies, but their proxies were weak and
    quarrelsome. The Pharisees had a mob, the Romans an army. Herod not
    much of
    an army, the hereditary priesthood even less. Any power Herod had, the
    Romans gave it to him to keep their hands off events, and when those
    events
    might cause trouble for Herod, he dumped them back on the Romans. The
    Sadducees were sane and not particularly evil, unlike the Pharisees, but
    they did not really believe their faith, so no one else believed it
    either,
    analogous to today's Anglican Church. Which left them with
    considerably less
    power that their legitimacy supposedly provided them, hence the frequent
    chaos in Jerusalem that the Romans and Herod found difficult. And,
    like the
    Pharisees, they did not want any religious competition.

    Because Jerusalem was a problem that Herod was unable to handle, the
    Romans
    were openly and directly ruling Jerusalem, but they did not want to.
    Since
    the Romans had the actual rule, in this sense it was not the Jews that
    killed Christ but Italians that killed Christ, but the Romans had no
    interest in Jewish religious disputes, and viewed the heresy and
    blasphemy
    charges against Jesus Christ as silly and incomprehensible. They were
    trying
    to accommodate the demands of their proxies. It was the proxies
    (Pharisees,
    the religious faction in Israel that survived as today's Jews) that
    demanded
    the crucifixion. The Romans thought that this was all just more
    incomprehensible Jewish trouble, of which they had had plenty, and in the
    coming years would have plenty more.

    Luke 23:

    11. And Herod with his men of war set him at nought, and mocked
    him, and
    arrayed him in a gorgeous robe, and sent him again to Pilate.
    ;
    12. And the same day Pilate and Herod were made friends together: for
    before they were at enmity between themselves.
    ;
    13. And Pilate, when he had called together the chief priests and the
    rulers and the people,
    ;
    14. Said unto them, Ye have brought this man unto me, as one that
    perverteth the people: and, behold, I, having examined him before you, >>  > have found no fault in this man touching those things whereof ye
    accuse
    him:
    ;
    15. No, nor yet Herod: for I sent you to him; and, lo, nothing
    worthy of
    death is done unto him.
    ;
    16. I will therefore chastise him, and release him.
    ;
    17. (For of necessity he must release one unto them at the feast.)
    ;
    18. And they cried out all at once, saying, Away with this man, and
    release unto us Barabbas:
    ;
    19. (Who for a certain sedition made in the city, and for murder,
    was cast
    into prison.)
    ;
    20. Pilate therefore, willing to release Jesus, spake again to them.
    ;
    21. But they cried, saying, Crucify him, crucify him.
    ;
    22. And he said unto them the third time, Why, what evil hath he
    done? I
    have found no cause of death in him: I will therefore chastise him,
    and
    let him go.
    ;
    23. And they were instant with loud voices, requiring that he might be >>  > crucified. And the voices of them and of the chief priests prevailed.
    ;
    24. And Pilate gave sentence that it should be as they required.
    ;
    25. And he released unto them him that for sedition and murder was
    cast
    into prison, whom they had desired; but he delivered Jesus to their
    will.
    ;
    26. And as they led him away, they laid hold upon one Simon, a
    Cyrenian,
    coming out of the country, and on him they laid the cross, that he
    might
    bear it after Jesus.
    ;
    27. And there followed him a great company of people, and of women,
    which
    also bewailed and lamented him.
    ;
    28. But Jesus turning unto them said, Daughters of Jerusalem, weep
    not for
    me, but weep for yourselves, and for your children.
    ;
    29. For, behold, the days are coming, in the which they shall say,
    Blessed
    are the barren, and the wombs that never bare, and the paps which
    never
    gave suck.
    ;
    30. Then shall they begin to say to the mountains, Fall on us; and
    to the
    hills, Cover us.
    ;
    31. For if they do these things in a green tree, what shall be done
    in the
    dry?

    Recall in the Palm Sunday post Jesus weeping for Jerusalem as he drew
    nigh.
    For their collective sins, the Jews were going to suffer collective
    punishment. Also recall the fig tree in the Maundy Thursday post that was
    green, nut without fruit, and soon was withered.

    32. And there were also two other, malefactors, led with him to be
    put to
    death.
    ;
    33. And when they were come to the place, which is called Calvary,
    there
    they crucified him, and the malefactors, one on the right hand, and
    the
    other on the left.
    ;
    34. Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what
    they do.
    And they parted his raiment, and cast lots.
    ;
    35. And the people stood beholding. And the rulers also with them
    derided
    him, saying, He saved others; let him save himself, if he be
    Christ, the
    chosen of God.
    ;
    36. And the soldiers also mocked him, coming to him, and offering him
    vinegar,
    ;
    37. And saying, If thou be the king of the Jews, save thyself.
    ;
    38. And a superscription also was written over him in letters of
    Greek,
    and Latin, and Hebrew, THIS IS THE KING OF THE JEWS.
    ;
    39. And one of the malefactors which were hanged railed on him,
    saying, If
    thou be Christ, save thyself and us.
    ;
    40. But the other answering rebuked him, saying, Dost not thou fear
    God,
    seeing thou art in the same condemnation?
    ;
    41. And we indeed justly; for we receive the due reward of our
    deeds: but
    this man hath done nothing amiss.
    ;
    42. And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into
    thy
    kingdom.
    ;
    43. And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt
    thou be
    with me in paradise.

    And this is the good news that makes this Good Friday.

    Jesus was crucified between two thieves; One was hardened to the last,
    one
    repented of his sins. The one that repented and accepted Christ stands
    for
    us.

    44. And it was about the sixth hour, and there was a darkness over
    all the
    earth until the ninth hour.
    ;
    45. And the sun was darkened, and the veil of the temple was rent
    in the
    midst.
    ;
    46. And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father,
    into thy
    hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost. >>  >
    47. Now when the centurion saw what was done, he glorified God,
    saying,
    Certainly this was a righteous man.
    ;
    48. And all the people that came together to that sight, beholding the >>  > things which were done, smote their breasts, and returned.
    ;
    49. And all his acquaintance, and the women that followed him from
    Galilee, stood afar off, beholding these things.
    ;
    50. And, behold, there was a man named Joseph, a counsellor; and he
    was a
    good man, and a just:
    ;
    51. (The same had not consented to the counsel and deed of them;)
    he was
    of Arimathaea, a city of the Jews: who also himself waited for the
    kingdom
    of God.
    ;
    52. This man went unto Pilate, and begged the body of Jesus.
    ;
    53. And he took it down, and wrapped it in linen, and laid it in a
    sepulchre that was hewn in stone, wherein never man before was laid.
    ;
    54. And that day was the preparation, and the sabbath drew on.
    ;
    55. And the women also, which came with him from Galilee, followed
    after,
    and beheld the sepulchre, and how his body was laid.
    ;
    56. And they returned, and prepared spices and ointments; and
    rested the
    sabbath day according to the commandment.

    most fridays are good

    I'll take your most Fridays, and I will raise you all Fridays."





    Michael Christ
    --
    God is God in all His Being.

    Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
    10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

    Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

    Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
    YET sinners, Christ died for us.

    Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
    is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

    Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
    are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

    Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

    "To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

    "If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

    "What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
    God. When you find Him you have found the author."

    "All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
    God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
    sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

    "Compromise will condemn you."

    "There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

    "My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

    "You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
    know that?"

    "The way of truth is the testimony of life."

    "I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
    where God intends."

    "Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

    "You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
    live, by faith."

    "It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

    "Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
    ahead."

    "You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

    "Priority is everything."

    "The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

    "There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
    it or to place it where it truly belongs."

    "An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

    "Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
    an ignorant straw man."

    "Wait, rest, be still, and know."

    "No man can wash his own hands!!!"

    "I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
    and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

    The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

    "The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

    "Man is not the centre of being."

    "Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

    "And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

    "Man has no greater idol than his own will."

    "Where is God hiding? He isn't."

    "If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

    "You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
    willingness to believe."

    "Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
    and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

    "The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
    full of hope."

    "The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
    through it so that a sinner could play God."

    "A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

    "No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
    is the love of God."

    "The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
    pretending he is the meaning of life."

    "Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
    still according to my power," says the Lord.

    What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
    order to explain the existence of existence.

    "Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

    "Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
     What a gift in a fallen world!"

    "Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

    "Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
    that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
    the glory of God"

    "God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
    isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
    road."

    "It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
    and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
    punished; it is what you are left with."

    "Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
    birth it in a man."

    "The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is self-righteousness."

    "A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

    "A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
    The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

    "It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

    "The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

    "There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

    "There is no such thing as random!"

    "You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

    "No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
    you know nothing."

    "You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

    "No sinner is sinless in any way."

    "Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

    "What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
    a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

    "God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

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